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Good win.
Secures 1 seed even though a loss to a decent AA team is not a big negative.

elliott70 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:49 pm Good win.
Secures 1 seed even though a loss to a decent AA team is not a big negative.

If Northern Lakes wins the 2nd meeting with Alex and both have no other 6A Losses I think Northern Lakes pulls the 1 seed.

Section 6A Rankings (1/14/24)
1- Alexandria (6-7-1)
2- Northern Lakes (10-4-0)
3- Fergus Falls (5-9-0)
4- Morris Benson (6-7-0)
5- Willmar (3-9-1)
6- Prairie Centre (5-9-1)
7- Breckenridge/Wahpeton (3-10-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek (3-9-0)

Section 6A Outlook- Alexandria had a very good week which included a 6A win over Fergus Falls. Northern Lakes had a tough (1-2-0) week outside the section. Morris Benson won their only game outside the section while Willmar lost their only game. Prairie Centre had a big week picking up 6A wins over both Breckenridge/Wahpeton & Wadena Deer Creek this week.

PageStat Section 6A
1 ALEXANDRIA
2 NORTHERN LAKES
3 FERGUS FALLS
4 MORRIS/BENSON
5 PRAIRIE CENTRE
6 WILLMAR
7 WADENA
8 BRECKENRIDGE

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:40 pm

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:23 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:16 pm

They were down 3-0 with only 8 minutes left in the game then Alex scored 4 unanswered goals to win over very solid AA team. Great win for Alex!

I was watching online and couldn't remember when the first goal was scored. I went the safe/generic route.

My Bad BSU just was pointing out the time remaining to highlight how great of comeback it was.

No problem, what so ever! Love the action on the 6A thread, even if it is just us.

Week 9

Monday, January 15
Willmar 2 at Becker/Big Lake 4

Tuesday, January 16
Brainerd at Alexandria
Northern Lakes at Little Falls
River Lakes at Prairie Centre
Park Rapids at Wadena-Deer Creek
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at MayPort (ND)
Willmar at Morris/Benson

Thursday, January 18
Sartell at Alexandria
Park Rapids at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
River Lakes at Northern Lakes
Willmar at Wadena-Deer Creek

Friday, January 19
Dodge County at Fergus Falls
Fairmont at Morris/Benson
Prairie Centre at Sauk Rapids-Rice

Saturday, January 20
Thief River Falls at Fergus Falls
Fairmont at Morris/Benson
Willmar at Hutchinson

LSQ COMPUTER RANKING
Alexandria 1015.5992
Northern Lakes 1015.0405
Fergus Falls 1013.1741
Morris/Benson 1008.0806
Willmar 1008.0542
Prairie Centre 1007.5505
Wadena-Deer Creek 1006.7164
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.1766

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Northern Lakes 53.7 (20)
Alexandria 53.5 (21)
Fergus Falls 35.8 (48)
Morris/Benson 31.2 (56)
Wadena-Deer Creek 25.4 (62)
Prairie Centre 25.3 (63)
Willmar 21.9 (66)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 19.8 (68)

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:19 pm LSQ COMPUTER RANKING
Alexandria 1015.5992
Northern Lakes 1015.0405
Fergus Falls 1013.1741
Morris/Benson 1008.0806
Willmar 1008.0542
Prairie Centre 1007.5505
Wadena-Deer Creek 1006.7164
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.1766

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Northern Lakes 53.7 (20)
Alexandria 53.5 (21)
Fergus Falls 35.8 (48)
Morris/Benson 31.2 (56)
Wadena-Deer Creek 25.4 (62)
Prairie Centre 25.3 (63)
Willmar 21.9 (66)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 19.8 (68)

If QRF were to be used (which it isn't), then Alex and Northern Lakes would go to head to head and at this point the #1 seed would go to Alex.

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:03 pm

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:19 pm LSQ COMPUTER RANKING
Alexandria 1015.5992
Northern Lakes 1015.0405
Fergus Falls 1013.1741
Morris/Benson 1008.0806
Willmar 1008.0542
Prairie Centre 1007.5505
Wadena-Deer Creek 1006.7164
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.1766

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Northern Lakes 53.7 (20)
Alexandria 53.5 (21)
Fergus Falls 35.8 (48)
Morris/Benson 31.2 (56)
Wadena-Deer Creek 25.4 (62)
Prairie Centre 25.3 (63)
Willmar 21.9 (66)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 19.8 (68)

If QRF were to be used (which it isn't), then Alex and Northern Lakes would go to head to head and at this point the #1 seed would go to Alex.

What would happen in the QRF world if Northern Lakes won the rematch meaning they split in the year and they were that close. Does 2nd meeting carry weight or do they go to a different metric?

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:03 pm

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:19 pm LSQ COMPUTER RANKING
Alexandria 1015.5992
Northern Lakes 1015.0405
Fergus Falls 1013.1741
Morris/Benson 1008.0806
Willmar 1008.0542
Prairie Centre 1007.5505
Wadena-Deer Creek 1006.7164
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.1766

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Northern Lakes 53.7 (20)
Alexandria 53.5 (21)
Fergus Falls 35.8 (48)
Morris/Benson 31.2 (56)
Wadena-Deer Creek 25.4 (62)
Prairie Centre 25.3 (63)
Willmar 21.9 (66)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 19.8 (68)

If QRF were to be used (which it isn't), then Alex and Northern Lakes would go to head to head and at this point the #1 seed would go to Alex.

From Minnesota-scores.net on what happens if two teams are within their "Tiebreaker Margin"

https://www.minnesota-scores.net/seedin ... ker-margin

If two teams are within the Tiebreaker Margin, head to head is the first Tiebreaker. If they split, then it would go to overall win percentage as the teams are not in the same conference/subdistrict.

And I post QRF knowing it isn't used, but I enjoy looking at the different mathematical systems and seeing how they end up sorting the teams.

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:00 pm

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:03 pm

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:19 pm LSQ COMPUTER RANKING
Alexandria 1015.5992
Northern Lakes 1015.0405
Fergus Falls 1013.1741
Morris/Benson 1008.0806
Willmar 1008.0542
Prairie Centre 1007.5505
Wadena-Deer Creek 1006.7164
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.1766

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Northern Lakes 53.7 (20)
Alexandria 53.5 (21)
Fergus Falls 35.8 (48)
Morris/Benson 31.2 (56)
Wadena-Deer Creek 25.4 (62)
Prairie Centre 25.3 (63)
Willmar 21.9 (66)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 19.8 (68)

If QRF were to be used (which it isn't), then Alex and Northern Lakes would go to head to head and at this point the #1 seed would go to Alex.

From Minnesota-scores.net on what happens if two teams are within their "Tiebreaker Margin"

https://www.minnesota-scores.net/seedin ... ker-margin

If two teams are within the Tiebreaker Margin, head to head is the first Tiebreaker. If they split, then it would go to overall win percentage as the teams are not in the same conference/subdistrict.

Interesting! Thanks for the info BSU

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:11 pm

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:03 pm

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:19 pm LSQ COMPUTER RANKING
Alexandria 1015.5992
Northern Lakes 1015.0405
Fergus Falls 1013.1741
Morris/Benson 1008.0806
Willmar 1008.0542
Prairie Centre 1007.5505
Wadena-Deer Creek 1006.7164
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.1766

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Northern Lakes 53.7 (20)
Alexandria 53.5 (21)
Fergus Falls 35.8 (48)
Morris/Benson 31.2 (56)
Wadena-Deer Creek 25.4 (62)
Prairie Centre 25.3 (63)
Willmar 21.9 (66)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 19.8 (68)

If QRF were to be used (which it isn't), then Alex and Northern Lakes would go to head to head and at this point the #1 seed would go to Alex.

What would happen in the QRF world if Northern Lakes won the rematch meaning they split in the year and they were that close. Does 2nd meeting carry weight or do they go to a different metric?

I think they go to section record.

I think the rule BSU provides is football as the are assigned to districts but thankfully qrf isnot used.

Section 6A Week #9 Scores
Monday (1/15/24)
Willmar 2 Becker/Big Lake 4

Tuesday (1/16/24)
#13 Alexandria 3 Brainerd 2
#16 Northern Lakes 2 #14 Little Falls 5
Willmar 2 Morris/Benson Area 1
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 6 Mayville/Portland (N.D.) 2
Prairie Centre 2 River Lakes 5
Wadena-Deer Creek 0 Park Rapids 10

Thursday (1/18/24)
#13 Alexandria 0 Sartell 4
#16 Northern Lakes 7 River Lakes 6
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2 Park Rapids 5
Willmar 8 Wadena-Deer Creek 3

Friday (1/19/24)
Morris/Benson Area 10 Fairmont 0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 8 Kittson County Central 1
Prairie Centre 4 Sauk Rapids 8
Fergus Falls 1 Dodge County 4

Saturday (1/20/24)
Fergus Falls 1 #17 Thief River Falls 4
Morris/Benson Area 8 Fairmont 0
Willmar 0 Hutchinson 7

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:49 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:11 pm

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:03 pm

If QRF were to be used (which it isn't), then Alex and Northern Lakes would go to head to head and at this point the #1 seed would go to Alex.

What would happen in the QRF world if Northern Lakes won the rematch meaning they split in the year and they were that close. Does 2nd meeting carry weight or do they go to a different metric?

I think they go to section record.

The way I read it, this would be QRF System wide according to their page. Section win percentage is tiebreaker number 4. In the case of a Northern Lakes/Alexandria "tie", #2 would be skipped. FWIW, both Alexandria and Northern Lakes each play just 6 section 6A games, just making the threshold for tiebreaker #4.
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These are the Tiebreakers as agreed to by the MSHSL.
1. The first tiebreaker is Head to Head competition
2. Ranking based on either Conference/Sub-District (C/D) winning percentage OR C/D point total based on the by-laws of the C/D * teams must be in the same C/D
3. Overall winning percentage
4. Section winning percentage (if at least 25% of the teams competitions are against section opponents - if not met, #4 is skipped)
-Football - 2
-Lacrosse - 3
-Soccer - 4
-Baseball/Softball - 5
-Basketball/Hockey/Volleyball - 6
5. QRF points
6. Coin Flip

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:29 am

elliott70 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:49 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:11 pm

What would happen in the QRF world if Northern Lakes won the rematch meaning they split in the year and they were that close. Does 2nd meeting carry weight or do they go to a different metric?

I think they go to section record.

The way I read it, this would be QRF System wide according to their page. Section win percentage is tiebreaker number 4. In the case of a Northern Lakes/Alexandria "tie", #2 would be skipped. FWIW, both Alexandria and Northern Lakes each play just 6 section 6A games, just making the threshold for tiebreaker #4.
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These are the Tiebreakers as agreed to by the MSHSL.
1. The first tiebreaker is Head to Head competition
2. Ranking based on either Conference/Sub-District (C/D) winning percentage OR C/D point total based on the by-laws of the C/D * teams must be in the same C/D
3. Overall winning percentage
4. Section winning percentage (if at least 25% of the teams competitions are against section opponents - if not met, #4 is skipped)
-Football - 2
-Lacrosse - 3
-Soccer - 4
-Baseball/Softball - 5
-Basketball/Hockey/Volleyball - 6
5. QRF points
6. Coin Flip

Thank goodness they do not use QRF.

Section 6A Rankings (1/21/24)
1- Alexandria (7-8-1)
2- Northern Lakes (11-5-0)
3- Fergus Falls (5-11-0)
4- Willmar (5-11-1)
5- Morris Benson (8-8-0)
6- Prairie Centre (5-11-1)
7- Breckenridge/Wahpeton (5-11-0)
8- Wadena Deer Creek (3-11-0)

Section 6A Outlook- Alexandria went (.500) outside the section in CLC Conference action. Northern Lakes also went (.500) outside the section. Fergus Falls got swept in a weekend series vs teams outside the section. Willmar had a big week picking up 6A wins over both Wadena Deer Creek & Morris Benson. Breckenridge/Wahpeton had a good (2-1-0) week outside the section as they continue to improve while Prairie Centre went winless on the week in non section action

Week 10

Tuesday, January 23
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at Wadena-Deer Creek
Fergus Falls at Sartell
Morris/Benson at Prairie Centre
Willmar at Sauk Rapids-Rice

Thursday, January 25
Alexandria at Willmar
Wadena-Deer Creek at Detroit Lakes canceled

Friday, January 26
Fergus Falls at Rochester Century
Morris/Benson at Windom
Prairie Centre at Willmar

Saturday, January 27
Fergus Falls at Mankato East
Morris/Benson at Worthington
Moose Lake Area at Wadena-Deer Creek
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at Becker/Big Lake

Section 6A Scores Week #10

Tuesday (1/23/24)
Willmar 1 Sauk Rapids 6
Prairie Centre 2 Morris/Benson Area 1 OT
Wadena-Deer Creek 3 Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1
Fergus Falls 4 Sartell 1

Thursday (1/25/24)
#10 Alexandria 6 Willmar 0

Friday (1/26/24)
Prairie Centre 3 Willmar 2 OT
Morris/Benson Area 6 Windom 3
Fergus Falls 3 Rochester Century/JM 9

Saturday (1/27/24)
Fergus Falls 6 Mankato East 7 OT
Wadena Deer Creek 7 Moose Lake 5
Morris/Benson Area 6 Worthington 5
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 0 Becker/Big Lake 3

Nice article on Wadena-Deer Creek and what they have been struggling with this year, low numbers. The team picture in the article has 12 skaters and one goalie. Injuries have knocked those numbers even lower.

https://www.mshsl.org/about/news/johns- ... pshJvdI6y0

John's Journal: Learning The Right Lessons At Wadena-Deer Creek
Facing Low Numbers, Wolverines Persist In Setting A Strong Example
POSTED: WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 24, 2024 - 1:34 PM

CATEGORY:

JOHN'S JOURNAL

Important lessons can be learned through athletics, and the boys hockey team at Wadena-Deer Creek provides a great example of this. This story was written for the Wadena Pioneer Journal by correspondent Norm Gallant, who is the activities director at Wadena-Deer Creek. It is posted here with permission.

WADENA — A four-goal second period pushed the Willmar Cardinals past the Wadena-Deer Creek Wolverines 8-3 in a Section 6-1A tilt Thursday, Jan. 18, at the Wadena Ice Arena.

WDC’s Cooper Ness, Carson Davis and Aden Krell all found the net, while Gunner Olson stopped 54 shots in the net.

The Wolverines have faced more than their share of adversity this season and Thursday night’s game was no different. The Wolverines have been playing with limited numbers all season, but Thursday they finished the game with just eight skaters.

Despite the adversity, WDC coaches Robby Grendahl and Cory Sarago have installed a system to maximize the players they have and keep things in perspective.

“Ultimately, what sports do is prepare students for life,” Grendahl said. “We face adversity in every facet of life and persevering and learning to work through challenges are important.

“Everyone will remember the state team of 2004, and rightly so. But, to me, as a person that was on the very first high school team we ever had here, I think that the 2010-11 team and this team are just as important.”

Fans will remember that the 2010-11 team did not have a home arena as the EF-4 tornado that hit Wadena in June wrapped most of the arena around what was left of the high school and the surrounding neighborhood. The team traveled to Long Prairie for practice or practiced on outdoor ice.

“Those players sacrificed a lot,” Grendahl said. “It would have been easy to fold things up and not have a program, but they kept it alive.”

This year’s team has faced different, but no less daunting challenges. Programs ebb and flow numbers-wise and right now the Wolverines are in a position where not many players are at the varsity level. Injuries have knocked the numbers down further, making each night a challenge.

Hard decisions had to be contemplated regarding the future of the Wolverine program last offseason. Ultimately, it was decided to keep independent hockey in the WDC co-op. The schedule was changed, and the Wolverines have been battling all season.

“I’m proud of us,” senior captain Gunner Olson said. “Our guys show up every day. We work hard and we’ve had fun.”

Grendahl sees this year’s team as a “Legacy team,” one that is very important in the history of the program.

“They are playing for all of those players at the mite and squirt levels, so they can wear a WDC sweater in high school,” Grendahl said. “I am proud of their work and sacrifice not only for themselves, but for the future of hockey at WDC.”

While an 8-3 loss isn’t the result the Wolverines like to see, Grendahl and his team know what they are doing is much bigger than what the scoreboard shows.

With numbers at a critical point, the coaches and administration will continue to make decisions based on player safety and health. On Friday, Jan. 19, WDC canceled its upcoming game with Detroit Lakes on Thursday, Jan. 25.

Win or lose, this year’s team has a lot to be proud of. They represent their school and community well on and off the ice and when they face challenges in their future, you can bet that the lessons from the ice will serve them well.

Alexandria 6, Willmar 0. SOG 46-15 Alexandria.

As of the morning of 01/26/2024

PageStat
ALEXANDRIA 16.61
NORTHERN LAKES 15.79
FERGUS FALLS 14.48
MORRIS/BENSON 10.54
PRAIRIE CENTRE 10.19
WILLMAR 10.01
BRECKENRIDGE 8.55
WADENA 8.16

LSQ Computer Ranking
Alexandria 1014.9747
Northern Lakes 1014.1464
Fergus Falls 1012.8285
Morris/Benson 1008.0176
Willmar 1007.7656
Prairie Centre 1007.3168
Wadena-Deer Creek 1005.8296
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1005.4849

QRF (Class A QRF Rank)
Alexandria 62.5 (19)
Northern Lakes 60.8 (21)
Fergus Falls 46.4 (40)
Morris/Benson 35.0 (57)
Prairie Centre 30.9 (63)
Wadena-Deer Creek 30.0 (64)
Willmar 28.8 (65)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 24.1 (68)

Section 6A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Alexandria (8-8-1)
2- Northern Lakes (11-5-0)
3- Fergus Falls (6-13-0)
4- Prairie Centre (7-11-1)
5- Willmar (5-14-1)
6- Morris Benson (10-9-0)
7- Wadena Deer Creek (5-11-0)
8- Breckenridge/Wahpeton (5-13-0)

Section 6A Outlook- Alexandria picked up a 6A win over Willmar to stay unbeaten in the section. Fergus Falls went (1-2-0) outside the section. Prairie Centre had a big week picking up the 2nd wins in series splits over 6A Morris Benson and the Cardinals to move into the 4 seed for now. Wadena Deer Creek got the important 2nd win over Breckenridge/Wahpeton in their 6A season series. Northern Lakes was idle during the week.

Week 11

Monday, January 29
Faribault at Willmar

Tuesday, January 30
Alexandria at Detroit Lakes
Little Falls at Fergus Falls
Wadena-Deer Creek at Morris/Benson
Northern Lakes at St. Cloud Cathedral

Thursday, February 1
Alexandria at Sauk Rapids-Rice
Fergus Falls at Brainerd
Morris/Benson at Northern Lakes
Becker/Big Lake at Prairie Centre
Willmar at Breckenridge/Wahpeton

Friday, February 2
Wadena-Deer Creek at Mora/Milaca

Saturday, February 3
Alexandria at Duluth Denfeld
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at Worthington
Luverne at Morris/Benson
Willmar at Redwood Valley

Week #11 Section 6A Scores
Monday (1/29/24)
Willmar 4 Faribault 7

Tuesday (1/30/24)
#10 Alexandria 4 Detroit Lakes 2
#17 Northern Lakes 1 #3 St Cloud Cathedral 2
Fergus Falls 2 #15 Little Falls 4
Morris/Benson Area 5 Wadena-Deer Creek 3

Thursday (2/1/24)
#10 Alexandria 10 Sauk Rapids 1
#17 Northern Lakes 8 Morris/Benson 0
Fergus Falls 1 Brainerd 8
Prairie Centre 3 Becker/Big Lake 6
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 0 River Lakes 8

Friday (2/2/24)
Wadena-Deer Creek 2 Mora/Milaca 5

Saturday (2/3/24)
#10 Alexandria 3 Duluth Denfeld 2
Willmar 4 Redwood Valley 0
Morris/Benson 1 Park Rapids 4
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1 Worthington 5