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Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:43 pm**

observer wrote:For the purpose of full disclosure, what's your role?

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Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:37 pm**

WhosPuckIsItAnyways? wrote: The Skinner Academy involves 1050 hours of hockey instruction + approximately 50 games on top of that ...

The other key to the Skinner Academy is you are getting Sean Skinner himself for the full 1050 hours ... he's one of the most well respected and sought after hockey instructors in the world , specializing in stickhandling, checking, skating and tactics ...

- this is a great opportunity at a great price ...

Where does the 50 games come from? I thought the idea was that they wouldn't play games until the halfway point and, even then, only in select tournaments.

Sean Skinner is noted and sought after for stickhandling and a few other select skills. At no point have I ever seen anyone refer to him as an expert in tactics, yet that is half the on-ice curriculum.

Great opportunity, I guess, but I would have a hard time handing over that check without someone else having been through the experience first who could tell me how wonderful it was for their child. Great price, not so much.

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:38 pm**

Parent of an enrolled child?

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:40 pm**

parent considering wether or not to enroll a child ...

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:42 pm**

Why all the PR (frankly, I don't know if there are more than 16 people looking at this forum) for Mr. Skinner?

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:46 pm**

longrebound wrote:Where does the 50 games come from? I thought the idea was that they wouldn't play games until the halfway point and, even then, only in select tournaments.

Sean Skinner is noted and sought after for stickhandling and a few other select skills. At no point have I ever seen anyone refer to him as an expert in tactics, yet that is half the on-ice curriculum.

Picking up the phone does wonders. I was able to speak with Sean and ask all my questions. That's the source of the info I am getting. You can confirm with him yourself ...

As far as Sean's credentials go, he's not only one of the most sought after skills instructors around, his coaching qualifications are extensive, including tactical.

SEAN SKINNER COACHING CERTIFICATIONS:

USA Hockey Associate – Anaheim, 1992
USA Hockey Intermediate – Redwood City, 1993
SAQ (Speed, Agility & Quickness) Speed City Coaching Symposium – Salt Lake, 1995
IPI (International Performance Institute) Symposium – Sarasota, 1996
USA Hockey Advanced – Anaheim, 1996
Roger Neilsen’s Coaching Symposium – Ontario, 1996
Pro Hockey Services Coaching Symposium and Clinic – Dublin, 1996 CONDUCTOR
Barry Melrose Coaches Clinic – Colorado Springs, 1997
USA Hockey Intermediate – Colorado Springs, 1997
Roger Neilsen’s Coaching Symposium – Ontario, 1997
Stick with the Edge Coaching Clinic – Lake Arrowhead, 1997 CONDUCTOR
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Switzerland, 1998
Canadian Advanced Level I – Saskatoon, 1998
Canadian Advanced Level II – Saskatoon, 1998
Roger Neilsen’s Coaching Symposium – Ontario, 1998
USA Hockey Jamboree – New Jersey, 1998 SPEAKER
SportQuest Certification in On-ice Hockey Testing – Vancouver, 1999
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Norway, 1999
ACHA (American College Hockey Association) Symposium – Naples, 1999
Hockey Specific Conditioning Conference – Montreal, 1999
USA Hockey Masters Level – Minneapolis, 1999
USA Hockey Advanced – Michigan, 1999 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Jamboree – New Jersey, 1999 SPEAKER
Minnesota High School Coaching Symposium – Minneapolis, 1999 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2000
USA Hockey Advanced – Pennsylvania, 2000 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2000
International Coaches Conference – Vancouver, 2000
USA Hockey Associate & Intermediate – Hazel Park, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate – Dearborn, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate – Chelsea, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate – Birmingham, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate – Southgate, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Vegas, 2001
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2001
England Ice Hockey Federation Coaching Symposium, 2001 CONDUCTOR
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Germany, 2001
USA Hockey Advanced – Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Pennsylvania, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Boston, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Florida, 2001 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2001 SPEAKER
Japan Ice Hockey Federation – Training Sessions, 2001
USA Hockey Advanced – California, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate Grosse Point, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate Farmington, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate Ann Arbor, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate River Rouge, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate & Intermediate Farmington, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Vegas 2002
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2002
EIHA(English Ice Hockey Association) Coaching Clinic, England, 2002 CONDUCTOR
IIHF(Int’l Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium, Sweden, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Boston, MA, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Pennsylvania, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Washington D.C., 2002 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 2 – Dearborn, MI, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 3 – Southfield, MI, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 2&3 Ann Arbor, Michigan, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 3 - Livonia, Michigan, 2002 SPEAKER
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Finland, 2003
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Nashville, TN, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Lansing, MI, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 5 – Pittsburgh, PA 2003
International Hockey Skating Summit – Livonia, MI, 2003 HOST & SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – New Bruinswick, NJ, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 3 – Southgate, MI, 2003 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Toronto 2004
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2004
IIHF(International Ice Hockey Federation)Coaching Symposium–Czech Republic, 2004
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA, 2004 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Raleigh, NC, 2004 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2004
USA Hockey Level 4 – Reno, NV 2004 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Las Vegas 2005
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2005
USA Hockey Level 4 – Detroit, MI 2005 SPEAKER
INT’L HOCKEY SKATING SYMPOSIUM – Novi, MI, 2005 HOST
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Vienna, 2005
USA Hockey Level 4 – Reno, NV 2005 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA 2006 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Washington D.C., 2006 SPEAKER
Swedish Ice Hockey Federation Hockey Convention – Sweden, Stockholm, 2006 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Washington D.C. – 2006 SPEAKER
World Junior Championships coaching symposium – Sweden 2007 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA 2007 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Durham, NC 2007 SPEAKER
Canadian Hockey Skills Academy Symposium – Toronto 2007 SPEAKER
Canadian Hockey LEVEL 5 Symposium – Toronto 2007 SPEAKER
Canadian Hockey Skills Academy Symposium – Calgary 2007 SPEAKER
Karlstrona Hockey Club & SISU Symposium – Sweden 2007 SPEAKER
Swedish Ice Hockey Federation Coaching for Elite – Sweden 2008 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Washington D.C. – 2008 SPEAKER
Turkish Ice Hockey Federation Skills Coaching Symposium – Turkey 2009 SPEAKER
IIHF(Int’l Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium, Zurich, 2009 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Atlanta, GA – 2009 SPEAKER

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:49 pm**

observer wrote:Why all the PR?

PR? Is this not the Minnesota youth hockey forum? Are we not posting here on topics regarding youth hockey in Minnesota? Does this not relate to youth hockey in Minnesota? Is Blaine not part of Minnesota?

I posted some information ... which led to some discussion ... which is basically what happens in forums ...

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:59 pm**

WhosPuckIsItAnyways? wrote:
observer wrote:Why all the PR?
PR? Is this not the Minnesota youth hockey forum? Are we not posting here on topics regarding youth hockey in Minnesota? Does this not relate to youth hockey in Minnesota? Is Blaine not part of Minnesota?

I posted some information ... which led to some discussion ... which is basically what happens in forums ...

Now you're getting laughable. Thinking about enrolling your kid and you're running commercial ads on here for the program? You either have a screw loose or much more invested.
Starting to get very old............

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:01 pm**

MrBoDangles wrote:Starting to get very old............

Great thing about freedom ... you can always skip to the next topic ...

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:12 pm**

WhosPuckIsItAnyways? wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:Starting to get very old............
Great thing about freedom ... you can always skip to the next topic ...

You have the duck and dodge move down.

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:15 pm**

my wife agrees with your screw loose theory

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:26 pm**

WhosPuckIsItAnyways? wrote:my wife agrees with your screw loose theory

Puck thanks for the info. Who will the Academy play games against?

Posted: **Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:52 pm**

Will this be a USA/MN Hockey registered team?
Does he have an affiliate agreement signed by Mn Hockey?

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:42 am**

Does anyone care whom will be teaching these kids? Sean's resume has been well communicated. Only one post of a rumor of SLP teachers.

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:49 am**

Has anyone noticed the daily schedule???

"Players will be training in ice hockey for half of the day from 9am-3pm, and then go to school from 3pm-8:30pm"

When will they have time for things like......friends, girls, and fun???

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:51 am**

Maybe this is a really stupid question?? So if this is for 9th and 10th graders and little Tommy enrolls in this program then goes back to his HS after a year with Skinner and SLP HS, would he have to sit out a year before playing on his High School team? Or is the assumption they would play USHL/NAHL/Canada Jrs?

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:56 am**

F14 wrote:He would be INELIGIBLE to play varsity for ONE year as the School LOCATION would be in Blaine. (Unless he attended Blaine).

Once you START 9th grade you have to play JV as a 10th grader so WATCH out parents, If you spent $30,000 for 9th grade, better go Straight to Junior B, NAHL, or other option.

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:00 am**

Why would it be Blaine and not Spring Lake Park?

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:32 am**

Goalie Dude wrote:Why would it be Blaine and not Spring Lake Park?

You are correct. The area of Blaine that the Super Rink sits in is within the Spring Lake Park geographical school boundary.

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:33 am**

WhosPuckIsItAnyways? wrote:
longrebound wrote:Where does the 50 games come from? I thought the idea was that they wouldn't play games until the halfway point and, even then, only in select tournaments.

Sean Skinner is noted and sought after for stickhandling and a few other select skills. At no point have I ever seen anyone refer to him as an expert in tactics, yet that is half the on-ice curriculum.
Picking up the phone does wonders. I was able to speak with Sean and ask all my questions. That's the source of the info I am getting. You can confirm with him yourself ...

As far as Sean's credentials go, he's not only one of the most sought after skills instructors around, his coaching qualifications are extensive, including tactical.

SEAN SKINNER COACHING CERTIFICATIONS:

USA Hockey Associate – Anaheim, 1992
USA Hockey Intermediate – Redwood City, 1993
SAQ (Speed, Agility & Quickness) Speed City Coaching Symposium – Salt Lake, 1995
IPI (International Performance Institute) Symposium – Sarasota, 1996
USA Hockey Advanced – Anaheim, 1996
Roger Neilsen’s Coaching Symposium – Ontario, 1996
Pro Hockey Services Coaching Symposium and Clinic – Dublin, 1996 CONDUCTOR
Barry Melrose Coaches Clinic – Colorado Springs, 1997
USA Hockey Intermediate – Colorado Springs, 1997
Roger Neilsen’s Coaching Symposium – Ontario, 1997
Stick with the Edge Coaching Clinic – Lake Arrowhead, 1997 CONDUCTOR
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Switzerland, 1998
Canadian Advanced Level I – Saskatoon, 1998
Canadian Advanced Level II – Saskatoon, 1998
Roger Neilsen’s Coaching Symposium – Ontario, 1998
USA Hockey Jamboree – New Jersey, 1998 SPEAKER
SportQuest Certification in On-ice Hockey Testing – Vancouver, 1999
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Norway, 1999
ACHA (American College Hockey Association) Symposium – Naples, 1999
Hockey Specific Conditioning Conference – Montreal, 1999
USA Hockey Masters Level – Minneapolis, 1999
USA Hockey Advanced – Michigan, 1999 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Jamboree – New Jersey, 1999 SPEAKER
Minnesota High School Coaching Symposium – Minneapolis, 1999 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2000
USA Hockey Advanced – Pennsylvania, 2000 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2000
International Coaches Conference – Vancouver, 2000
USA Hockey Associate & Intermediate – Hazel Park, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate – Dearborn, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate – Chelsea, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate – Birmingham, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate – Southgate, Michigan, 2000 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Vegas, 2001
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2001
England Ice Hockey Federation Coaching Symposium, 2001 CONDUCTOR
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Germany, 2001
USA Hockey Advanced – Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Pennsylvania, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Boston, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Florida, 2001 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2001 SPEAKER
Japan Ice Hockey Federation – Training Sessions, 2001
USA Hockey Advanced – California, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate Grosse Point, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate Farmington, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate Ann Arbor, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Intermediate River Rouge, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Associate & Intermediate Farmington, Michigan, 2001 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Vegas 2002
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2002
EIHA(English Ice Hockey Association) Coaching Clinic, England, 2002 CONDUCTOR
IIHF(Int’l Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium, Sweden, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Boston, MA, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Pennsylvania, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Washington D.C., 2002 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 2 – Dearborn, MI, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 3 – Southfield, MI, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 2&3 Ann Arbor, Michigan, 2002 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 3 - Livonia, Michigan, 2002 SPEAKER
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Finland, 2003
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Nashville, TN, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Lansing, MI, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 5 – Pittsburgh, PA 2003
International Hockey Skating Summit – Livonia, MI, 2003 HOST & SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – New Bruinswick, NJ, 2003 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 3 – Southgate, MI, 2003 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Toronto 2004
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2004
IIHF(International Ice Hockey Federation)Coaching Symposium–Czech Republic, 2004
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA, 2004 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Raleigh, NC, 2004 SPEAKER
Roger Neilson’s Coaching Clinic – Ontario, 2004
USA Hockey Level 4 – Reno, NV 2004 SPEAKER
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Las Vegas 2005
Lets Play Hockey Expo – Minneapolis 2005
USA Hockey Level 4 – Detroit, MI 2005 SPEAKER
INT’L HOCKEY SKATING SYMPOSIUM – Novi, MI, 2005 HOST
IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium – Vienna, 2005
USA Hockey Level 4 – Reno, NV 2005 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA 2006 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Advanced – Washington D.C., 2006 SPEAKER
Swedish Ice Hockey Federation Hockey Convention – Sweden, Stockholm, 2006 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Washington D.C. – 2006 SPEAKER
World Junior Championships coaching symposium – Sweden 2007 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Boston, MA 2007 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Durham, NC 2007 SPEAKER
Canadian Hockey Skills Academy Symposium – Toronto 2007 SPEAKER
Canadian Hockey LEVEL 5 Symposium – Toronto 2007 SPEAKER
Canadian Hockey Skills Academy Symposium – Calgary 2007 SPEAKER
Karlstrona Hockey Club & SISU Symposium – Sweden 2007 SPEAKER
Swedish Ice Hockey Federation Coaching for Elite – Sweden 2008 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Washington D.C. – 2008 SPEAKER
Turkish Ice Hockey Federation Skills Coaching Symposium – Turkey 2009 SPEAKER
IIHF(Int’l Ice Hockey Federation) Coaching Symposium, Zurich, 2009 SPEAKER
USA Hockey Level 4 – Atlanta, GA – 2009 SPEAKER

What has this guy coached? According to his resume, he's never coached, even at the mite level. Red flags go up when you list USA Hockey levels 1,2,3,4 coaching certifications as career highlights! (for the record, if you can sit for more than 6 hrs. and your butt didn't fall asleep, you too can get levels 1,2,3,4). I would think twice about sending your kids college tuition to a guy so he can afford to travel oversees to "talk" about hockey.

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:35 am**

The whole thing is dumb and unnecessary in Minnesota. I don't know if there are enough families looking for more out of their hockey experience than what they're already getting. I truly believe we have the best hockey development opportunities in the country already. I don't believe the almost full thang.

A business person looks for the best location to open a business with the best chance to succeed. Going to a location with the highest number of hockey players per capita makes sense except for the fact that we're the epicenter of hockey opportunity already. Time will tell but I'll be surprised if it flies. And, the kids and teams aren’t going to be very good because most strong players are happy where they are. Kind of like the early years of the Fire. Small associations and malcontents, maybe.

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:53 pm**

observer wrote:The whole thing is dumb and unnecessary in Minnesota. I don't know if there are enough families looking for more out of their hockey experience than what they're already getting. I truly believe we have the best hockey development opportunities in the country already. I don't believe the almost full thang.

A business person looks for the best location to open a business with the best chance to succeed. Going to a location with the highest number of hockey players per capita makes sense except for the fact that we're the epicenter of hockey opportunity already. Time will tell but I'll be surprised if it flies. And, the kids and teams aren’t going to be very good because most strong players are happy where they are. Kind of like the early years of the Fire. Small associations and malcontents, maybe.

Observer -- you got most of it spot on. The kids from Minnesota are a bonus, but everything else he needed is right here already.

Ice - Plentiful and cheap. Even at $200 per hour, or thereabouts, it is 30% less than other parts of the country. Plus, he will be free in the evenings to teach stickhandling to associations that might hire him.

Off-Ice Facility -- On site and available. The Herb Brooks facility is normally only open after school hours. It also has everything needed including a treadmill and a qualified staff standing by.

Dormitories - They are on site and available now that the US Women's Hockey team has moved out. Transportation to/from the rink is not required, something available at only a few locations in the country.

School - There is room at the NSC for classes, a lunchroom in the dorms, and teachers can be drawn from area schools to work after their "day job" has ended.

If this thing tanks, there is almost no financial risk to Skinner. Nobody is building dorms, rinks, an off-ice training facility, a school, or buying buses to move them around. The teachers and off-ice staff are already working. The risk is all with the clients. What if there are five Bantam A capable kids, five Bantam B, and five beginners that decide this hockey thing looks pretty interesting. Have fun doing a month of defensive zone coverage drills with that spread in talent. WPIIA is smart for making a lot of phone calls before writing that check. I hope he gets all the answers he seeks.

Posted: **Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:22 pm**

IM hit the nail, what about the teachers. Who will the teachers be,what classes will be offered. I would guess that most teachers at SLP are done before these kids will be in class.
On another note these kids would be considered in attendance at SLP also SLP hockey or the players home residence would be the governing hockey association.

Posted: **Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:39 am**

Prediction; Spring Lake Park HS will win the State tournament in 3 years.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:03 am**

Anyone know if Mr Skinner approached Mn Hockey for an affiliate agreement or is he working with Spring Lake Park?
I would think that this would need to be in place as a contract before he could make any commitments to both players and ice.

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