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penman wrote:

edgework wrote:I am sure you won't see a mass press release from BM's tournament this time. His two poster child teams, the 96s and 99s both lost.
The 99 Blades crushed his almighty 99 Machine. Most of the game was running time.

I heard the Deuce at the 96 level also got put into running time this weekend by the Blades and Minnesota Legacy teams. It seems like the aura and mystic of Minnesota Made is losing a little luster - perhaps at some levels more than others.

Who won at the 97 level?

mnhkylvr wrote:Okay - from the posts all I've been able to determine is:

'01 Chmp = doesn't really matter
'00 Chmp = Machine
'99 Chmp = Blades
'98 Chmp = Jr. Steelers?
'97 Chmp = Machine
'96 Chmp = WI Selects
'95 Chmp = ??? (sorry - forgot there is no '95 team now...)

mnhkylvr wrote:Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

phil mccracken wrote:

mnhkylvr wrote:Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

phil mccracken wrote:
mnhkylvr wrote:
Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!


The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.


Thanks - did the Machine win or did play4fun get it right with the Steelers as champs...and do you know score?

iwearmysunglassesatnight wrote:

TheJet wrote:Who did 2000 Machine play in finals? Thx in advance for response.

LA Jr Kings, they played the whole team... Winner not so much

Doglover wrote:I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

boardmember wrote:

Doglover wrote:I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

You will need add all those Blades kids from the 1999 team to that refund list that did not get to dress because kids were flown in from elsewere for this event.

boardmember wrote:

Doglover wrote:I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

You will need add all those Blades kids from the 1999 team to that refund list that did not get to dress because kids were flown in from elsewere for this event.

phil mccracken wrote:

mnhkylvr wrote:Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

Magnaesq wrote:

phil mccracken wrote:

mnhkylvr wrote:Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

hockeydad30 wrote:

Magnaesq wrote:

phil mccracken wrote: The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

JSR wrote:

hockeydad30 wrote:

Magnaesq wrote: The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

hockeydad30 wrote:

JSR wrote:

hockeydad30 wrote: It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

JSR wrote:

hockeydad30 wrote:

JSR wrote: Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

I feel bad for any child under 12 that would even be aware of what being "outclassed" even means (though I doubt they do). My son has never left the ice not having a good time. I remember after a team he was on got beat 11-3 (first time he was ever involved on that end of a real bad score) I asked him if he was ok, he looked at me puzzled and said "yes, why?", so I asked if he had fun and he said "of course, I was playing hockey, why wouldn't I have had fun". That's all I needed to hear we never discussed the outcome or the score, he just knew he was on the ice playing the game he loves whiich is how it' ssupposed to be. If that ever changes in him, well that'll be the day I might not let him play anymore

hockeydad30 wrote:

JSR wrote:

hockeydad30 wrote:Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

I feel bad for any child under 12 that would even be aware of what being "outclassed" even means (though I doubt they do). My son has never left the ice not having a good time. I remember after a team he was on got beat 11-3 (first time he was ever involved on that end of a real bad score) I asked him if he was ok, he looked at me puzzled and said "yes, why?", so I asked if he had fun and he said "of course, I was playing hockey, why wouldn't I have had fun". That's all I needed to hear we never discussed the outcome or the score, he just knew he was on the ice playing the game he loves whiich is how it' ssupposed to be. If that ever changes in him, well that'll be the day I might not let him play anymore

outclaseed was my term he would say we never had a chance or something like that, But I never said he wouldn't injoy the game but it bothers him to lose. All kids are different and theres lots that feel this way

Doglover wrote:I agree that most kids just love to play hockey (and it's more the parents who care about the score, playing time, lines, etc) but I think the truly competitive players by nature, like to win or at the very least, lose in a very competitive game. If your kid doesn't seem to notice or mind getting blown out by a far superior team - good for him. He'll probably play hockey the rest of his life and always enjoy the game - just don't be overly surprised if he never advances to a high level.

I know mine hated to lose and that competitive spirit drove them to get better and play better. Before you jump in with the comments I can anticipate, you don't have to be a poor loser or a bad sport in order to be competitive. If your kid doesn't mind losing that badly though, there is nothing to motivate him to improve or become better. Just remember to be satisfied with whatever level he achieves as long as he continues to enjoy the game and don't be one of the complaining parents if he doesn't make the select teams as he gets older. Of course he could always grow to be 6'2" tall and 200 lbs and totally dominate in HS! Gotta love this game.