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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:36 pm
by hshckfan08
nikebauer_07 wrote:
hshckfan08 wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote:And I also you believe you said best player in the section. Is Gaborik going to win the NHL MVP award? At this point you can probably say no. Poor comparison. I just think at this point its hard to say someone is the best player in the section when they haven't played a game. I've seen a lot of players not live up to their hype.
Gaborik is the most talented player on the Minnesota Wild, I think you are crazy if you disagree. And i'm not comparing the entire NHL to section 7A, i am comparing the Wild to 7A. Therefore im obviously not going to argue that gaborik should win an NHL MVP award because thats not relevent to my argument. And if all else fails, we can always go look at NHL 2009 and see who the highest ranked player is for the Wild, because the game is always right :lol: .
And nikebauer, go back and read! I never said mausolf was the best player in the section, i was simply pointing out the obvious flaws in your logic.
Now as to what i think on who the best player in 7A is, I would put the top 3 as Jamnick, Mausolf, and Stauber in no particular order.
I didn't say you said that but somebody referenced he was because he is on a list of possible Mr. Hockey candidates. If you would have read back a few posts you would have seen that. Gaborik may be the most talented but does that make him the best? His talent has done ZERO for the Wild this season. Also, why would you compare a team to a section (last time I checked, a section was more than one team)? Just trying to point out the flaws in your logic. I'm not arguing that he isn't good, but I think its not only disrespecting some of the players in section 7a who have started the season strong but also the players on Marshall who have stepped up in his absence.
Or, maybe you should read your own post where it says, "and i also believe YOU said best player in the section". :oops: .
Ok jeez, sorry, i didnt know we were determining "best" by who's the nicest, best looking on skates. Let's look what Merriam Webster has to say, "excelling all others". Im assuming in this comparison, we would mean excelling all others in hockey, excelling all others in who can be the kindest player on the ice, or whatever you are getting at.
About my logic, do you know what a metaphor is? Lets go back to merriam webster. A metaphor is "a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them". I am using a phrase, gaborik is the best player on the wild even though he hasnt played much this season, to compare this situation to that of section 7A. In other words i am suggesting a likeness between them. Do you still not see a logical comparison between the two? i could try dictionary.com too.
How is it disrespecting other players in section 7A? If Sidney Crosby all of a sudden slams into the boards again and sprains his ankle, should Bouchard go and cry because everyone still thinks Crosby is a better player? This isnt a bash on other players in the section. There is plenty of talent, but the topic we are currently discussing is the best player in the section. And just because one of the top players hasnt played in 2.5 of of 3 whole games, doesnt mean he cant be included in the conversation.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:52 pm
by nikebauer_07
hshckfan08 wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote:
hshckfan08 wrote: Gaborik is the most talented player on the Minnesota Wild, I think you are crazy if you disagree. And i'm not comparing the entire NHL to section 7A, i am comparing the Wild to 7A. Therefore im obviously not going to argue that gaborik should win an NHL MVP award because thats not relevent to my argument. And if all else fails, we can always go look at NHL 2009 and see who the highest ranked player is for the Wild, because the game is always right :lol: .
And nikebauer, go back and read! I never said mausolf was the best player in the section, i was simply pointing out the obvious flaws in your logic.
Now as to what i think on who the best player in 7A is, I would put the top 3 as Jamnick, Mausolf, and Stauber in no particular order.
I didn't say you said that but somebody referenced he was because he is on a list of possible Mr. Hockey candidates. If you would have read back a few posts you would have seen that. Gaborik may be the most talented but does that make him the best? His talent has done ZERO for the Wild this season. Also, why would you compare a team to a section (last time I checked, a section was more than one team)? Just trying to point out the flaws in your logic. I'm not arguing that he isn't good, but I think its not only disrespecting some of the players in section 7a who have started the season strong but also the players on Marshall who have stepped up in his absence.
Or, maybe you should read your own post where it says, "and i also believe YOU said best player in the section". :oops: .
Ok jeez, sorry, i didnt know we were determining "best" by who's the nicest, best looking on skates. Let's look what Merriam Webster has to say, "excelling all others". Im assuming in this comparison, we would mean excelling all others in hockey, excelling all others in who can be the kindest player on the ice, or whatever you are getting at.
About my logic, do you know what a metaphor is? Lets go back to merriam webster. A metaphor is "a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them". I am using a phrase, gaborik is the best player on the wild even though he hasnt played much this season, to compare this situation to that of section 7A. In other words i am suggesting a likeness between them. Do you still not see a logical comparison between the two? i could try dictionary.com too.
How is it disrespecting other players in section 7A? If Sidney Crosby all of a sudden slams into the boards again and sprains his ankle, should Bouchard go and cry because everyone still thinks Crosby is a better player? This isnt a bash on other players in the section. There is plenty of talent, but the topic we are currently discussing is the best player in the section. And just because one of the top players hasnt played in 2.5 of of 3 whole games, doesnt mean he cant be included in the conversation.
So if we use the definition of best given, does that make Jamnick the best? He has excelled the most and has the best stats so far? He had better numbers last year. Everyone has their own opinions and there are a lot of factors put in to who is best. I would have liked to have seen him play against STA and I'm hoping he will play against Hibbing. They are both excellent players. It's just hard to call someone the best when they've done nothing for their team so far this year. Last year is history. Is that understandable?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:15 pm
by hshckfan08
nikebauer_07 wrote:
hshckfan08 wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote: I didn't say you said that but somebody referenced he was because he is on a list of possible Mr. Hockey candidates. If you would have read back a few posts you would have seen that. Gaborik may be the most talented but does that make him the best? His talent has done ZERO for the Wild this season. Also, why would you compare a team to a section (last time I checked, a section was more than one team)? Just trying to point out the flaws in your logic. I'm not arguing that he isn't good, but I think its not only disrespecting some of the players in section 7a who have started the season strong but also the players on Marshall who have stepped up in his absence.
Or, maybe you should read your own post where it says, "and i also believe YOU said best player in the section". :oops: .
Ok jeez, sorry, i didnt know we were determining "best" by who's the nicest, best looking on skates. Let's look what Merriam Webster has to say, "excelling all others". Im assuming in this comparison, we would mean excelling all others in hockey, excelling all others in who can be the kindest player on the ice, or whatever you are getting at.
About my logic, do you know what a metaphor is? Lets go back to merriam webster. A metaphor is "a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them". I am using a phrase, gaborik is the best player on the wild even though he hasnt played much this season, to compare this situation to that of section 7A. In other words i am suggesting a likeness between them. Do you still not see a logical comparison between the two? i could try dictionary.com too.
How is it disrespecting other players in section 7A? If Sidney Crosby all of a sudden slams into the boards again and sprains his ankle, should Bouchard go and cry because everyone still thinks Crosby is a better player? This isnt a bash on other players in the section. There is plenty of talent, but the topic we are currently discussing is the best player in the section. And just because one of the top players hasnt played in 2.5 of of 3 whole games, doesnt mean he cant be included in the conversation.
So if we use the definition of best given, does that make Jamnick the best? He has excelled the most and has the best stats so far? He had better numbers last year. Everyone has their own opinions and there are a lot of factors put in to who is best. I would have liked to have seen him play against STA and I'm hoping he will play against Hibbing. They are both excellent players. It's just hard to call someone the best when they've done nothing for their team so far this year. Last year is history. Is that understandable?
Now there's some logic i can relate too. Seeing that both Mausolf and Jamnick are at the top of the section when it comes to career points i would agree.
So back to my point, I dont believe that just because Mausolf hasnt played yet in 3 games he should be able to be talked about as one of the best players in the section. By the end of the year, whether you want to consider points, or any of the other factors you believe makes the best player, he will be one of the top players, as well as Jamnick, and dont sleep on chris westin from virginia.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:23 pm
by nikebauer_07
I agree, I guess my thinking is just different from yours. I was just thinking along the lines of if the season ended tomorrow who the best player so far this year has been. I agree that those three are the players to watch out for this year.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:37 pm
by rinkratman
mausolf must be the better player. if anyone has been paying attention or getting info from other people, mausolf played on 1st line for the eliete league, made the NIT team, all tournament team last year at state, named a candidate for Mr. Hockey. enough said. i just cant wait to see the game on thursday when Marshall makes the trip to Hibbing. we'll all get to see who the better player is on the ice between mausolf and jamnick. all asuming mausolf is playing or not

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:44 pm
by Euclid08
Well Nikebauer im glad that you finally realized you were out of your leauge. You say you would have liked to watch Jamnik play against teams like STA... well heres a horse of a different color lol :P compare the schedules of Hibbing and Duluth Marshall.... :idea: DM plays better teams, they will surely improve from this good luck Hibbing i just dont see it happening
with that being said lets get a poll started on who is gonna win this thrusday between the two

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:47 pm
by nikebauer_07
Jamnick choosed to play football, I believe, and not Elite league. I also don't believe those are official candidates for Mr. Hockey, just someone's predictions. I think it's a little early to be listing Mr. Hockey candidates, especially naming a player who has played half a game, but I'm not getting into that again.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:52 pm
by rinkratman
well heres the link to the mr hockey candidates, http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... tml?cat=14.

and jamnik played football and the eleite league. so yeah your wrong and your wrong. sorry

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:53 pm
by nikebauer_07
Euclid08 wrote:Well Nikebauer im glad that you finally realized you were out of your leauge. You say you would have liked to watch Jamnik play against teams like STA... well heres a horse of a different color lol :P compare the schedules of Hibbing and Duluth Marshall.... :idea: DM plays better teams, they will surely improve from this good luck Hibbing i just dont see it happening
with that being said lets get a poll started on who is gonna win this thrusday between the two
I said I wish I would have gotten to see Mausolf play against STA.. I think you could argue both teams play fairly difficult schedules. Hibbing's schedule is no cakewalk.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:55 pm
by rinkratman
and someone should start a poll for thursdays game by the way

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:56 pm
by hshckfan08
He is saying that is a link to someones website who is predicting the mr hockey finalists, it is not the official list. That wouldnt be out yet, seeing less than 5 games have been played. Obviously they have to see how the players do over the course of their senior season.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:57 pm
by nikebauer_07
rinkratman wrote:well heres the link to the mr hockey candidates, http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... tml?cat=14.

and jamnik played football and the eleite league. so yeah your wrong and your wrong. sorry
That is why I said I believe, I wasn't exactly sure. And to answer my question, is that an official list of candidates? It says here is a list of players with a chance of winning the award. I thought Mr. Hockey candidates weren't officially listed until around tournament time. Thanks for the dose of arrogance, too :roll:

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:59 pm
by rinkratman
well either way jamnicks name isnt on the list. and jamnick wont see the state tournament. mausolf is going to lead his team to there 6th appearence in a row and his third.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:04 pm
by nikebauer_07
Agreed. Jamnick sucks and so does Hibbing. They might as well forfeit the rest of the season and petition to move sections because Marshall is going to go to state every year with their future NHL'ers. Same goes for Westin and Virginia. :roll:

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:06 pm
by rinkratman
couldnt have said it any better

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:01 am
by hockeyhair15
nikebauer_07 wrote:Jamnick choosed to play football, I believe, and not Elite league. I also don't believe those are official candidates for Mr. Hockey, just someone's predictions. I think it's a little early to be listing Mr. Hockey candidates, especially naming a player who has played half a game, but I'm not getting into that again.
http://www.hookedonphonics.com/ProductD ... agod_hGKSA

there you go, just in case they missed something in "publik skoolz"

and ydont you 2 take this over to the mr hockey thread or start a "best player in section 7" thread. besides its too early to be trying to determine the best player in the section. christ at least wait till after christmas

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:47 am
by hockeylover34
BlackTapeBandit wrote:im going to have to agree with most here, and say that its going to be another hibbing and marshall section final. The falls will hold their own but I believe that Hart is going to have a meltdown and that will be a problem.

Marshall has excellent goaltending, and they also have some good players coming up through the system.

Hibbing, i dont know much about them except they whomped the falls in hibbing a couple weeks ago.

Virginia is a contender they played good against the falls, I was expecting them to beat the falls, but the falls pulled out an unsuspecting win.

Greenway. . . no clue
I'm curious as to why you would say that Hart is going to have a meltdown! Please fill me in!

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:59 am
by hockeyfan95
i wondering about the Hart "meltdown" as well...

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:05 pm
by nikebauer_07
hockeyhair15 wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote:Jamnick choosed to play football, I believe, and not Elite league. I also don't believe those are official candidates for Mr. Hockey, just someone's predictions. I think it's a little early to be listing Mr. Hockey candidates, especially naming a player who has played half a game, but I'm not getting into that again.
http://www.hookedonphonics.com/ProductD ... agod_hGKSA

there you go, just in case they missed something in "publik skoolz"

and ydont you 2 take this over to the mr hockey thread or start a "best player in section 7" thread. besides its too early to be trying to determine the best player in the section. christ at least wait till after christmas
I never meant to say Jamnick was the best in the section, I was arguing the point that people were calling Mausolf the best already. I believe the Marshall fans are the ones tooting their horns about how good they are already and the season has just begun. I don't believe either player will win Mr. Hockey, actually. Pretty clever with the hooked on phonics, sorry people make mistakes in the real world buddy. I'd probably be willing to bet I have a better education than you do, too.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:15 am
by fromdanorth
nikebauer_07 wrote:Agreed. Jamnick sucks and so does Hibbing. They might as well forfeit the rest of the season and petition to move sections because Marshall is going to go to state every year with their future NHL'ers. Same goes for Westin and Virginia. :roll:
Grow up, no need to attack Jamnick or Westin like that, cant you be a little more creative in your criticisms of other teams :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:44 pm
by nikebauer_07
fromdanorth wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote:Agreed. Jamnick sucks and so does Hibbing. They might as well forfeit the rest of the season and petition to move sections because Marshall is going to go to state every year with their future NHL'ers. Same goes for Westin and Virginia. :roll:
Grow up, no need to attack Jamnick or Westin like that, cant you be a little more creative in your criticisms of other teams :roll:
Do a little research buddy. That was sarcasm, read the thread. Don't jump in when you don't know what anybody is talking about. I think Jamnick is the top player in the section, and after tonight, I'm even more convinced.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:35 pm
by fromdanorth
nikebauer_07 wrote:
fromdanorth wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote:Agreed. Jamnick sucks and so does Hibbing. They might as well forfeit the rest of the season and petition to move sections because Marshall is going to go to state every year with their future NHL'ers. Same goes for Westin and Virginia. :roll:
Grow up, no need to attack Jamnick or Westin like that, cant you be a little more creative in your criticisms of other teams :roll:
Do a little research buddy. That was sarcasm, read the thread. Don't jump in when you don't know what anybody is talking about. I think Jamnick is the top player in the section, and after tonight, I'm even more convinced.
my bad :oops: ,glad I'm your buddy though :wink:
congrats to Jamnick and company sounds like he had a great game

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:44 pm
by nikebauer_07
fromdanorth wrote:
nikebauer_07 wrote:
fromdanorth wrote: Grow up, no need to attack Jamnick or Westin like that, cant you be a little more creative in your criticisms of other teams :roll:
Do a little research buddy. That was sarcasm, read the thread. Don't jump in when you don't know what anybody is talking about. I think Jamnick is the top player in the section, and after tonight, I'm even more convinced.
my bad :oops: ,glad I'm your buddy though :wink:
congrats to Jamnick and company sounds like he had a great game
Not a problem north. I'm a fan of anyone on the Range over the private schoolers from Duluth. The Jackets came up with a big W and it was nice to see them rebound from a tough loss to Warroad. Can't wait to see Hibbing and Virginia play now!

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:17 am
by nikebauer_07
rinkratman wrote:mausolf must be the better player. if anyone has been paying attention or getting info from other people, mausolf played on 1st line for the eliete league, made the NIT team, all tournament team last year at state, named a candidate for Mr. Hockey. enough said. i just cant wait to see the game on thursday when Marshall makes the trip to Hibbing. we'll all get to see who the better player is on the ice between mausolf and jamnick. all asuming mausolf is playing or not
:lol:
:shock:
I can't wait to hear the excuses.
Aaron Jamnick- 4 goals(2 shorthanded)
Zach Mausolf- 0 goals, numerous penalty minutes, game misconduct

Season totals:
Jamnick - 13 goals(6 sh) 2 assists, 15 points
Mausolf- 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points

I think the author of the Mr. Hockey candidates needs to make some adjustments :oops:

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:47 am
by RoundBaller
Don't let the 7-1 drubbing by Hibbing over the Falls fool you. Hibbing is a better team, but the Falls was missing a couple key players due to suspensions. They're back and the Broncos are playing better. I still think they're probably the 3rd best team in the section, but I don't think the gap is as big as people think.