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In order for kids to develop a desire for, say hockey, they must be exposed to it in a positive way. If a kid is never exposed to the sport, they won't have a desire for it. If a kid is exposed to it in a negative way, the same would be true. The learning process involves being exposes and learning about the game in a positive way. The desire for the game usually comes from the exposure to the game and the kid learning about the game. How hard a kid wants to try in that sport will be mostly determined by his level of desire for the game.

Bernie has a solid thing going right now in his Edina Junior Development Program. His process is right on in how he trains kids to skate skate skate and skate. Would he be good for MNHOCK, probably not because he would most likely support AAA winter hockey and even run the league if he could, which would go against the principle of what most MNHOCK folks want.

I say good for BM for what he's doing and as witness to having to play against the young kids he's developed recently, he's doing a great job. If you don't like him, go to MM and see him personally and tell him. This board is the wrong place to put a man down personally and by name for running a business that you don't agree with.

99GoalieDad wrote:Was he a former coach somewhere or did he just have the desire to develop a program that would identify talent and develop it through repetition and hard work. I am impressed with the discipline these kids have at such a young age. Does anybody really know the real story of Bernie McBain?

I believe he was a coach with the Minnesota Blades a while back...

gorilla1 wrote:In order for kids to develop a desire for, say hockey, they must be exposed to it in a positive way. If a kid is never exposed to the sport, they won't have a desire for it. If a kid is exposed to it in a negative way, the same would be true. The learning process involves being exposes and learning about the game in a positive way. The desire for the game usually comes from the exposure to the game and the kid learning about the game. How hard a kid wants to try in that sport will be mostly determined by his level of desire for the game.

I like some of your thought process here. You would be a good one to get in a discussion with over a beer.

tomASS wrote:

gorilla1 wrote:In order for kids to develop a desire for, say hockey, they must be exposed to it in a positive way. If a kid is never exposed to the sport, they won't have a desire for it. If a kid is exposed to it in a negative way, the same would be true. The learning process involves being exposes and learning about the game in a positive way. The desire for the game usually comes from the exposure to the game and the kid learning about the game. How hard a kid wants to try in that sport will be mostly determined by his level of desire for the game.

I like some of your thought process here. You would be a good one to get in a discussion with over a beer.

Gorilla1- Great point! I've been trying to say the same thing for months. BM is doing a great job at MM. If the kids love the sport enough. Who cares where they play. Its no one elses busines where the kids end up playing.

Let me know if you get together with tomASS for a beer. I can meet too. He promised to buy me a beer sometime.

Just wondering--why wouldn't Bernie be able to join the board? Is it because of his behavior with kids? His coaching style? Or does he just not want to join? I'm hearing things all over the board about Bernie.

iceman02 wrote:Just wondering--why wouldn't Bernie be able to join the board? Is it because of his behavior with kids? His coaching style? Or does he just not want to join? I'm hearing things all over the board about Bernie.

Bernie could be nominated and elected.
There is no reason why he could not be.
If he has any such desires that is his business, and to my knowledge has not expressed an interest in pursing such a position.

Minnesota Hockey board (at least me) would love to have Bernie or people like Bernie or people unlike Bernie to come forward an be involved.

Do you have to be a member of Minnesota Hockey to volunteer? I think in our association you get a lifetime membership after serving as a board member for three years, and maybe as a coach too.

DMom wrote:Do you have to be a member of Minnesota Hockey to volunteer? I think in our association you get a lifetime membership after serving as a board member for three years, and maybe as a coach too.

Any one with an interest in amateur hockey is considered a member and eligible for office.
Any one can volunteer for committee or other duties.
I know we need people to help 'man' the MN Hockey booth at the lets play hockey expo this weekend. You can just stop introduce yourself and volunteer behind the tables.

well, we were planning to go so I guess we'll be stopping by to say Hello

Bernie for pesident. Right Puck.

[quote="Truthbetold"]Slasher/Boogey,

I would hope that any parent that spent a ton more money on hockey and the hours would become a better player.

You would hope, but I have seen many kids go backwards in AAA programs, and especially throughout the winter season. Quality skills development is the key.

It is common sense that development does not happen through osmosis. Do you get stronger simply by spending time in the weight room?

That's the beauty of MN Made, if you don't like it - get the hell out.

Association Hockey is riddled with issues from behavior, to politics, to development with limitations on how to address those problems.

Bernie's not interested so why ask the ridiculous question?

James B Mcbain wrote:That's the beauty of MN Made, if you don't like it - get the hell out.

Association Hockey is riddled with issues from behavior, to politics, to development with limitations on how to address those problems.

Bernie's not interested so why ask the ridiculous question?

Yeah there are no behavior issues at MM... that is why no-one over there sucks their thumb or runs in place or leaves because of coaching.....

dogeatdog1 wrote:

James B Mcbain wrote:That's the beauty of MN Made, if you don't like it - get the hell out.

Association Hockey is riddled with issues from behavior, to politics, to development with limitations on how to address those problems.

Bernie's not interested so why ask the ridiculous question?

Yeah there are no behavior issues at MM... that is why no-one over there sucks their thumb or runs in place or leaves because of coaching.....

As I said, "then get the hell out, that's the beauty of MM".

old goalie85 wrote:Bernie for president. Right Puck.

Wow.....Did you ever pull this out of the scrap-heap

If you were a DJ, you'd be playing Glenn Miller. What, exactly, is your motivation for pulling forward a thread from 2 years ago????

More importantly, how do you find this specific topic relevant today

James B Mcbain wrote:

dogeatdog1 wrote:

James B Mcbain wrote:That's the beauty of MN Made, if you don't like it - get the hell out.

Association Hockey is riddled with issues from behavior, to politics, to development with limitations on how to address those problems.

Bernie's not interested so why ask the ridiculous question?

Yeah there are no behavior issues at MM... that is why no-one over there sucks their thumb or runs in place or leaves because of coaching.....

As I said, "then get the hell out, that's the beauty of MM".

They all do after a few years..

How would he 'join'??

James B Mcbain wrote:

dogeatdog1 wrote:

James B Mcbain wrote:That's the beauty of MN Made, if you don't like it - get the hell out.

Association Hockey is riddled with issues from behavior, to politics, to development with limitations on how to address those problems.

Bernie's not interested so why ask the ridiculous question?

Yeah there are no behavior issues at MM... that is why no-one over there sucks their thumb or runs in place or leaves because of coaching.....

As I said, "then get the hell out, that's the beauty of MM".

Or be smart enough to not get Sucked in on the promise of being MADE into an NHLR...

dogeatdog1 wrote:

James B Mcbain wrote:

dogeatdog1 wrote: Yeah there are no behavior issues at MM... that is why no-one over there sucks their thumb or runs in place or leaves because of coaching.....

As I said, "then get the hell out, that's the beauty of MM".

Or be smart enough to not get Sucked in on the promise of being MADE into an NHLR...

come on!! every kid that skates at The Made will be pro!! DUH!!

ffs people, no one believes that. Well, no one should. 99.9% of our kids are going to end up suffering through a 10pm Sunday night beer league with a bad knee.

I'm just lucky to be the .01%

MnMade-4-Life wrote:

dogeatdog1 wrote:

James B Mcbain wrote: As I said, "then get the hell out, that's the beauty of MM".

Or be smart enough to not get Sucked in on the promise of being MADE into an NHLR...

come on!! every kid that skates at The Made will be pro!! DUH!!

ffs people, no one believes that. Well, no one should. 99.9% of our kids are going to end up suffering through a 10pm Sunday night beer league with a bad knee.

I'm just lucky to be the .01%

In the future they will be going to a shrink and no parents will be there to see the former "Made' player's Sunday games...

Playing in the NHL just delays beer league participation. All hockey players eventually end up in a beer league. It is the best way to get away from the wife and kids and drink beer with the guys

MrBoDangles wrote:

James B Mcbain wrote:

dogeatdog1 wrote: Yeah there are no behavior issues at MM... that is why no-one over there sucks their thumb or runs in place or leaves because of coaching.....

As I said, "then get the hell out, that's the beauty of MM".

They all do after a few years..

Let's see.... if he can hook them at age 4 1/2 and assuming he doesn't expand into PeeWees, he could enslave them for almost 8 years before they have to go back to the real world.