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kind of surprising the leading scorer for the 2007-08 season in Ricky Litchfield is left off the list.. even thought mankato west plays a weak schedule scoring 89 points is still quite an accomplishment

wheres Jaques?

After watching Minnetonka and Edina, # 19 is the winner.

Lee locked the thread on Ness and put this link up, so I'll post my opinion in here.

The point was brought up about him being a 3rd year player, so he shouldn't get it because he is combining years and not a "senior" in one's eyes. A response was given that he is a senior as he's completing his high school requirements and going to college next year. (I'm surprised Roseau allows students to do this) To those who are complaining, does that make a 4 year college degree earned in 3 less deserving? Most would argue the opposite. If he is indeed the best player, personally I would say the feat he has accomplished makes him more deserving of the award.

Personally, I would say a AA defenseman who can put up numbers topping all but a handful of forwards in the state who has also gotten a 4 year high school diploma in 3 years is more than deserving of the Mr. Hockey title. Furthermore, to counter the statement made about the message this would be sending by the MSHSL, in my opinion, it would be sending the message that school, and not sports, should be the priority.

Personally, after watching Gardiner today, I think that most of the NHL scouts, who vote for mr. hockey, would agree that Gardiner is the easy choice for this award.

hockeyfan_atic wrote:kind of surprising the leading scorer for the 2007-08 season in Ricky Litchfield is left off the list.. even thought mankato west plays a weak schedule scoring 89 points is still quite an accomplishment

Might wanna ask the scouts who picked the top 10....

HShockeywatcher wrote:Lee locked the thread on Ness and put this link up, so I'll post my opinion in here.

Me too - and it seemed like such a nice thread...

Regarding the junior/senior status of Mr. Ness, I think we can all agree that his road to consideration for Mr. Hockey has been non-traditional. As we don’t have a lot of experience with it, some will say “so be it, good for him” and others will look at it skeptically.

Some will question if this could possibly set a harmful precedent that others will feel compelled to follow. Is there the potential for external forces to lean on a kid and force him to do more than he chooses for himself? There are still some whack job parents out there and it’s not a unrealistic stretch to imagine a college coach unscrupulously pushing to get some talent on his squad a year earlier.

Some of the questions raised here on the bored are not necessarily about Mr. Ness’s particularized circumstances and or hockey abilities. Therefore you can’t dismiss this discussion as lack of sportsmanship or sour grapes. Instead, it is an honest questioning of what it could mean to the ever changing face of youth/H.S. hockey in Minnesota if he is so publicly and officially recognized with the highest award provided to a boy’s high school hockey player. We’re already seeing larger numbers of kid’s leave their traditional schools to jump for junior hockey programs in what would otherwise be their senior year. This has that same feel except, assuming Mr. Ness were to win, it would have a more “sanctioned” and “process approved” element to it.

as good as gardiner can be, he can also be that bad. against the loss to hopkins, he was on the ice for 3 of the 4 goals hopkins scored. he got beat several times during their edina loss -- only bunomo playing great kept that game close. i think scouts see the potential in gardiner (which i think could be huge) but he's not great now. he's not mr. hockey either.

He turns 18 in May. Speaking of Mr. Ness.

So he was held back, I guess I would try pretty hard to make up that year also. He would be 19 if he graduated some guys are in the pros already or have a year of college done. Hopefully everything works out and he gets to graduate early.

Duluth 4 wrote:wheres Jaques?

Who?

I think Zach Lerhke is the best!!! he is very good and not very many people know about him but he is quick and tiny and very good! He is very good at antcipating plays.

For those of you who are too lazy to look for the thread and keep starting new ones - here is the original.

when do they decide?

koho snipe wrote:when do they decide?

In the past, it's been announced the day after the State Tournament ends.

wbmd wrote:

koho snipe wrote:when do they decide?

In the past, it's been announced the day after the State Tournament ends.

The two biggest hyped kids got knocked out tonight. Ness wins.

they may as well have the ceremony now cuz ness is gunna win it my freinds

HShockeywatcher wrote: Furthermore, to counter the statement made about the message this would be sending by the MSHSL, in my opinion, it would be sending the message that school, and not sports, should be the priority.

Are you saying this is a bad message to be sending? I think this is the message they should be sending to the students.