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Hockey!LoveIt! wrote:96 Fire have kids from the 96 Machine, 96 Duece and 96 Blades.
Statsman101 what really is your gripe?

I don't have a gripe. All those teams are located in Wisconsin Right? No then they are bending the rules. Listen to Janze in other post talking about smaller asscociations Wayzata, Elk River, I will give you Waconia. How many of those Kids are from Waconia?. Wayzata & Elk River have good programs. So her argument go's no where after that. Refs cost you the Championship and most these kids are younger. WOW I DIDN'T see that coming.


I think they have 2 kids from Hudson and the rest from Minnesota. So I guess fraud is all I'am concerned with. Different rules? I have said it 100 times please read post before you enter conversation. I don't care if the Fire play all year round. I just don't think they should be allowed in Tournaments in MN. (My Opinion) I hope I'am still allowed to have one. They have a Allstar Team from Edina Area and call themself the fire. Which claims to be a New Richmond Team in Wisconsin. But since the majority of its players are closer to Edina lets just practice there. Why don't a Community Like Richfield just walk over to Edina and say can we have one of your B-teams we can give them the opportunity to play at the A-Level so Residency won't matter. Whats the difference? They just want to play hockey.

We need waivers to do that in MN. Wisconsin Teams even if they are not really from wisconsin can bend the rules any way they want. If your from Waconia and want to play for a different association, I'am sure Waconia would sign a wavier. I saw Chaska Play and they looked really good and are closer to you then New Richmond. So please don't tell me this is just about playing Hockey. EGO is the only way this could lead you to the fire. They Pick Tryouts early so they can make sure they have everyone they want and if the Kid doesn't make it. He can go back to association without them even knowing they tried out. Good Idea? No Risk for the player. What if he didn't make it and the association didn't allow them back then what did the fire offer you. a B-Team ?

Please we at the Fire don't offer a B-team. What? I thought they are for the kids playing Hockey. I ask you what you like about the fire? Just because I don't have the same opinion as you doesn't mean either of us are wrong.

[quote="jancze5"]Stats...What rules are being bent by anyone? Please reference ONE single rule appropriately for the faithful.

You once again have proven your total lack of knowledge of AAA hockey as it pertains to the entire country and it's relation to the Fire. Heck the best 92 in the country, Luke Moffatt, from Arizona, plays hockey in Detroit for Honeybaked...go figure.....but you're worried about a kid who lives in Minnesota playing for the Fire, 20 minutes from their house and being allowed to play in a Minnesota tourney. THE FIRE ARE NOT ALL STAR TEAMS. Where did you get that notion? The only All Star teams in the state are found every August/Sep in the High School Elite league...true all star teams. The Fire are kids playing hockey...period. Can you get that through your EGO please ma'am before you continue to spew your nonsense against something you're just not part of. You're not representing hockeymoms very well, you are sounding like a disgruntled hockeymom at this point rather than just being an adult and support the notion that something different can coexist. Heck, all the Fire players eventually end up back in Minnesota high school hockey anyway....what's next, the high schools aren't allowed to roster a player if they were ever registered in Wisconsin and played Fire hockey...thank goodness you're only a self centered woman with an opinion and not on the Minnesota hockey board trying to ban these "kids" from playing. What a joke[/qu

ote] MN rule residency. I'am talking about 96 Fire Team. Machine , Dueces, Blades these are not Allstar Teams. Sorry I thought since they are good and hand Picked by Bernie that they would be considered Allstars. I was trying to point out that if you are from Waconia, Chaska is closer and you don't need to fly to new richmond on weekends if playing hockey is what you are looking for. Chaska did win the tournament and the Fire didn't. So I was just pointing out that you could have saved a little money and just played for CHASKA. Unless your kid was the One player that was a squirt and Chaska wouldn't allowed them to play up. Then Wisconsin is where you go if you want the rule bent.

Again I'am sorry My Opinion bothers you. I respect your opinion and laughed at you calling me a Woman. Statsman is an Angryman and now has turned into A woman in 2 days. Thank You for letting me know who the top 92 year player is and where he comes from. You have educated me on the AAA way of thinking. I now see things like a women and I think the Fire are Great.

jancze5 wrote:

. Why does Minnesota Hockey not allow tier 1 hockey, what are you affraid of. People running Minnesota hockey are living in the past, times have changed, other parts of the country are producing more top talent, though Minnesota produces a lot of good players, the best talent is being produced outside of the state. If it wasn't for programs like AAA, MM and NTDP would we be producing any talent?

jancze5 wrote:

Now you erase what you say when someone catch's you blaming refs for losses.

Wayzata, Elk River and Waconia is WHERE THESE KIDS ARE FROM.


Why did you erase all that B.S ABOUT SMALLER ASSOCIATIONS AND THIS JUST GIVES KIDS A CHANCE O PLAY HOCKEY.

I WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE YOU A HARD TIME IF YOU JUST SAID I WANT MY KID TO BE THE NEXT LUKE MOFFATT. Only a AAA PARENT KNOWS WHO THE HELL HE IS. Then its about my kid is the greatest and I want him to play for the best team in MN. SORRY WISCONSIN. Don't ever talk the talk and then erase it when someone calls you on it.

honestly, you're just not worth the explanation anymore because you're so steadfast in your clouded vision...you just can't see the big picture. It's a shame. I know Luke Moffatt because he's one of only 2 92 birth year players who is already commited to a D-1 school (Michigan)...it's not rocket science or AAA, it's called looking at recruits to D-1 schools as a hockey fan. So this kid is a sophmore in high school and is already a recruit to the Wolverines...sorry, but to me that's pretty amazing. Considering there are 92's playing Bantam hockey here. There was a single REF who honestly had a blatant vested interest in ensuring our team would have as many chances to lose as possible. He knows who he is and his demeanor on the ice was simply a shame for the players playing the game. So not "the refs", but "A REF". If you'd like to PM me I'd be happy to discuss this any further...