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What needs to go is the illusion of transfer rules
prohibiting girls from playing Varsity at the new school they attend. Seems like the ones with means get around the intent of the system and are eligible at their new schools.

Wrong topic but I agree. The rules are applied very unequally which I view as extremely unfair.

Hockey21- totally in agreement. That's the way they do it in the rest of the country. Have them register as a Tier I or Tier II, play an agressive schedule that includes other Midwest Preps, like Lake Forest and Latin School, then let them play for Nationals. This would also allow prep programs to have a longer schedule, which allows for better development. The teams could still play each other like Shattuck does, providing public schools with extra opportunities for strong competition, and would eliminate the "fairness" stigma that is trumpeted everytime a public school loses to a prep school at the state tournament.

Hard water fan wrote:...and would eliminate the "fairness" stigma that is trumpeted everytime a public school loses to a prep school at the state tournament.

I don't believe a private school has ever made it to the final of an AA state tournament, so that's a hard argument to make. The AA tournament has pretty much been dominated by public schools since Day 1. In single A private schools have fared better but Warroad has won that title the past two years. So overall there's no reason to change any rules and there's no reason for any stigma.

MNHockeyFan wrote:

Hard water fan wrote:...and would eliminate the "fairness" stigma that is trumpeted everytime a public school loses to a prep school at the state tournament.

I don't believe a private school has ever made it to the final of an AA state tournament, so that's a hard argument to make. The AA tournament has pretty much been dominated by public schools since Day 1. In single A private schools have fared better but Warroad has won that title the past two years. So overall there's no reason to change any rules and there's no reason for any stigma.

Fared better? Your statement is misleading. In the last decade, at the A level, private schools have won 7 of the 10. Girls HS hockey has only been around for 15 years. Private schools are inherently smaller because of limited class sizes and a desire for a more personal education. Thus the majority participating will only be at the A level. Warroad did win the last two and as we all know, no recruiting goes on there, right? Regardless, because of the two class system, we'll never know how the likes of a Breck will fair against Edina, will we? Even at the youth level, if you use someone like the Queens Bantam AA team from Thunder Bay as an outsiders example, it becomes apparent. They won provincials last year, and walked through every tournament in the states they played in. They were asked not to participate in some of our tournaments again this year. They have a longer schedule, they play against a wider variety of teams and their development model is different than what is allowed here in MN. Shattuck is the same. How many A varsity teams could compete with their U16 team? 4 or 5?

On the boys side it is equally as impressive. In the last decade, of the 20 championships, over 1/3 have been from private schools. Even more interesting is that private schools comprise less than 10% of the total programs. That's an unbelievably high winning percentage. Factor in a comparison of total attendance and it isn't even worth discussing. Private schools have an obvious leg-up on the public school "competition" despite having much smaller attendance. The question is will the community based programs and the MSHL start to realize that their system can be improved, or will they continue to bury their head in the sand? There's room for both models, and lots can be gained from having a better understanding of why these programs are so succesful. To quote the great Harry Wilson: He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery.

Has anyone heard rumblings from a possible change in Mound-Westonka?

Hard water fan wrote:

MNHockeyFan wrote:

Hard water fan wrote:...and would eliminate the "fairness" stigma that is trumpeted everytime a public school loses to a prep school at the state tournament.

I don't believe a private school has ever made it to the final of an AA state tournament, so that's a hard argument to make. The AA tournament has pretty much been dominated by public schools since Day 1. In single A private schools have fared better but Warroad has won that title the past two years. So overall there's no reason to change any rules and there's no reason for any stigma.

Fared better? Your statement is misleading. In the last decade, at the A level, private schools have won 7 of the 10. Girls HS hockey has only been around for 15 years. Private schools are inherently smaller because of limited class sizes and a desire for a more personal education. Thus the majority participating will only be at the A level. Warroad did win the last two and as we all know, no recruiting goes on there, right? Regardless, because of the two class system, we'll never know how the likes of a Breck will fair against Edina, will we? ?

We do know how Breck faired last year. Breck lost to Edina 3 -1. Breck also lost to Minnetonka, South St.Paul, Lakeview South, Eagan, Chaska, & Benilde.
Warroard lost to Minnetonka and Edina.
Blake lost to Minnetonka, South St.Paul and Edina once I believe.

inthestands wrote:Has anyone heard rumblings from a possible change in Mound-Westonka?

I heard he was let go or resigned.. I'm not sure which is correct.

Hockey03 wrote:

inthestands wrote:Has anyone heard rumblings from a possible change in Mound-Westonka?

I heard he was let go or resigned.. I'm not sure which is correct.

He was asked to resign or they would have terminated him.

Who is/was the coach there?

Tigers33 wrote:Who is/was the coach there?

http://kuehl.mwhs.westonka.k12.mn.us/mo ... sessionid=

You may have heard of his daughter, Taylor, one of the top scorers in the state last year and is now a freshman at Ohio State.

I haven't seen an updated list since mid-August. I think this may be the finalized list of new coaches. 29 coaching changes this year, seems to be up somewhat from the previous year.

1. Rochester John Marshall/Lourdes - Bob Montrose
2. Minneapolis Novas - Pat Meacham
3. AHA - Jon Dundore
4. East Ridge - Craig Norwich
5. Chaska/Chan - Tracy Cassano
6. St. Cloud - Mark Chamernick (was co HC)
7. Forest Lake- Ryan Sauter
8. Windom - Dean Drahota
9. Faribault - Steve Gravgaard
10. Robbinsdale Armstrong/Cooper - Kevin Gray
11. St. Louis Park - Donnie Williams
12. Eden Prairie - Jaime Grossman
13. Orono - Keith Radloff
14. Rosemount - Josh Hoekstra
15. Alexandria - Andy Shriver
16. Prior Lake - Todd Johnson
17. Detroit Lakes - Gretchen Norby
18. CDH - John Pohl
19. Bemidji - Bob Brink
20. Lakeville South - Natalie Darwitz
21. St. Paul Blades - Jeff Hauer
22. St. Paul United - Carrie Holldorf
23. Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato - Hannah Impola
24. Park Rapids - Gary Vaudrin
25. Northern Lakes/Pequot Lakes - Bryan Henricks
26. Brainerd/Little Falls - Stephanie Sustercich
27. Breck - Chris Peterson
28. Mound-Westonka - Chris Erickson
29. Lake of the Woods/Rainy River/Indus - April Beckel