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B wrote:

Pioneerprideguy wrote:

dubya44 wrote:i dont get what everyone has against sager... i would have been lucky to have a coach like taht. he cares a ton about the players and always puts together a good team. i see nothing wrong with how he handles things or his coaching style.

As I've said before, us Hill Murray people think he is doing a great job & hope he has a job there at WBL for life!

no more phillipi. thats all i gotta say

Yeah, the team is really struggling so far without Flip.

Pioneerprideguy wrote:

B wrote:

Pioneerprideguy wrote: As I've said before, us Hill Murray people think he is doing a great job & hope he has a job there at WBL for life!

no more phillipi. thats all i gotta say

Yeah, the team is really struggling so far without Flip.

I will admit Shaughnessy has stepped in very well, and he is a good goalie, but it will be interesting to see how he handles the sections atmosphere after playing a pretty weak conference schedule. I know he already played some good teams, but the games were basically meaningless.

Although Woodbury was dominated against Edina, they are now prepared to take make up for a poor showing in on WBL. This will be a good game.

Woodbury - 3

WBL - 1

B wrote:

wbmd wrote:

surehockey wrote:Wasn't Forest Lake's goalie out sick for the WBL FL game?

Good question since the backup goalie started. I'm sure Moberg would have made a difference. Maybe not for a win, but, we'll never know now.

Moberg didnt even show up. but neither did their backup goalie. the WB fans gave him a really hard time...poor guy

Moberg was really sick...They knew the day before...that's why he wasn't there

This should be a great game.

WBL - 3
Woodbury - 2

who has a score???

spindrift wrote:who has a score???

Possibly a fortune teller, considering they play tomorrow

spindrift wrote:who has a score???

haha. siv siv siv siv siv

TheNightman wrote:

spindrift wrote:who has a score???

Possibly a fortune teller, considering they play tomorrow

haha...thats right. Not used to the Friday night game I guess.

DAYMAN....OOOOWHOOAAAOHHH

spindrift wrote:

TheNightman wrote:

spindrift wrote:who has a score???

Possibly a fortune teller, considering they play tomorrow

haha...thats right. Not used to the Friday night game I guess.

DAYMAN....OOOOWHOOAAAOHHH

Haha good call, I'm glad someone gets it

TheNightman wrote:

spindrift wrote:

TheNightman wrote: Possibly a fortune teller, considering they play tomorrow

haha...thats right. Not used to the Friday night game I guess.

DAYMAN....OOOOWHOOAAAOHHH

Haha good call, I'm glad someone gets it

You'd appreciate this- At the Woodbury/Edina game there was an Edina fan dressed as GREEN MAN

spindrift wrote:

TheNightman wrote:

spindrift wrote:who has a score???

Possibly a fortune teller, considering they play tomorrow

haha...thats right. Not used to the Friday night game I guess.

DAYMAN....OOOOWHOOAAAOHHH

hahaha its alright

komada77 wrote:

E wrote:

wbmd wrote: Have you seen Woodbury play yet?? I didn't think so.

Even if White Bear plays like they did against Forest Lake, you have to remember that these are two different teams and that Woodbury is better than Forest Lake.

Your prediction of 4-2 sure doesn't sound like a blowout.

Woodbury didn't impress me against edina. edina had all the momentum from the begining od the game!
im taking wb-3 woodbury 1

That's cause Edina was playing out of their minds. WBL is a consistent underachiever with Sager at the helm, so I'll go Woodbury 4-3.

It was Woodbury 3-2 over WBL. The Bears played well for the first period ending it 2-0. Woodbury came back in the second and brought the score to 2-1 near the end of that period with a goal by Gaede assisted by Pittman. :22 into the 3rd Woodbury tied it with a goal from Herbert at the point and the Gaede/Pittman duo sealed the fate of da Bears with :48 seconds in the game. WBL looked toally confused in the second and third so I'd give the total game play to the Royals. Way to Go Royals!!!!

slapstkhound wrote:

komada77 wrote:

E wrote: Woodbury didn't impress me against edina. edina had all the momentum from the begining od the game!
im taking wb-3 woodbury 1

That's cause Edina was playing out of their minds. WBL is a consistent underachiever with Sager at the helm, so I'll go Woodbury 4-3.

It was Woodbury 3-2 over WBL. The Bears played well for the first period ending it 2-0. Woodbury came back in the second and brought the score to 2-1 near the end of that period with a goal by Gaede assisted by Pittman. :22 into the 3rd Woodbury tied it with a goal from Herbert at the point and the Gaede/Pittman duo sealed the fate of da Bears with :48 seconds in the game. WBL looked toally confused in the second and third so I'd give the total game play to the Royals. Way to Go Royals!!!!

Royals start out strong in the first two shifts but Bears take control after that, and throughout the rest of the first period. 1st ends 2-0 Bears.

White Bear comes out in the 2nd and stops forechecking and starts playing very defensive. Woodbury gains momemtum and finally puts one in, in the last minute of the period.

Bears start the 3rd playing defensively and it doesn't take long for the Royals to tie it in the first minute of the third. Both teams have chances throughout the 3rd with Woodbury having the majority of play. Now the topper. With one minute to play in the third, WBL comes out with their third line and 5th and 6th defensemen. It doesn't last long as the Royals 1st line wins the draw and goes down to score.

Some will say Bolin was brilliant again coaching, but in my eyes, WBL changed their style of play that cost them momentum. Woodbury gained confidence and started to take over. This is the second time WBL has given up a late goal (Moorhead 2nd period in a 1-1 game) when putting out the 5th and 6th defensemen together in the last minute. I can only wonder what is going through the coaches minds in these situations.

Good hockey game in St. Paul tonight. White Bear early, Woodbury late, two pretty even teams. I don't think after watching tonight I would say White Bear has any number 1 or number 2 defensemen, just a bunch of 4's and 5's. The best one tonight was number 2 by far. the seniors did some things well but some others not so well. the talent pool is just not what it once was at WB. Woodbury has a very big, hard working team that wore down White Bear and was more physical. I liked what I saw out of a couple of the young guys for Woodbury and they will be watched more closely over the next couple of years. White Bear doesn't have a player that we think can play at the division one level on their team right now.that is a consensus of all of our scouts at this time. I wish both teams well and hope they improve as the year goes on. Hill will be back at state and Woodbury or Cretin out of their section, both have a chance as I feel that neither team is great but that they are evenly matched.

I am being assigned a new region to scout so I won't be around for the first time in quite a few years. I will miss Minnesota high school hockey for now but may be able to sneak back during the playoffs.

Well the next meeting at the and of the year will be interesting. There is some very bad blood between the Royals and Bears. Last year there was an on-ice brawl. Had there not been cops present tonight, there would have been a fight in the stands and/or parking lot.

HOCKEY SCOUT wrote:Good hockey game in St. Paul tonight. White Bear early, Woodbury late, two pretty even teams. I don't think after watching tonight I would say White Bear has any number 1 or number 2 defensemen, just a bunch of 4's and 5's. The best one tonight was number 2 by far. the seniors did some things well but some others not so well. the talent pool is just not what it once was at WB. Woodbury has a very big, hard working team that wore down White Bear and was more physical. I liked what I saw out of a couple of the young guys for Woodbury and they will be watched more closely over the next couple of years. White Bear doesn't have a player that we think can play at the division one level on their team right now.that is a consensus of all of our scouts at this time. I wish both teams well and hope they improve as the year goes on. Hill will be back at state and Woodbury or Cretin out of their section, both have a chance as I feel that neither team is great but that they are evenly matched.

I am being assigned a new region to scout so I won't be around for the first time in quite a few years. I will miss Minnesota high school hockey for now but may be able to sneak back during the playoffs.

Going into this year I thought that White Bear's weakness would be on the blueline, and I think it showed last night. Especially in the 3rd period.

Woodbury's Hyland and Herbert both very were very good last night on D.
Herbert didn't really stand out in the games I saw him play last year. Last night he did. Woodbury seemed to have better depth at forward as well.

The goal late in the 2nd period was a game changer. Woodbury took over the play after that.

SEC scotty-- good eye. They are very weak on defense this year. their forwards are o.k. but they didn't help much last night on defense. The battles that took place on the boards last night were all Woodbury. I think the size of Woodbury combined with their physical play wore WB out. By the third period WB just didn't have any jump. Both of these teams have good coaches and will improve alot by the end of the year. The S.E.C. is down overall in talent and looks to be a couple years away from having a dominant team. Woodbury will battle with Cretin for a berth in the state tourny. If they were in the same section as WB and Hill they wouldn't have a chance. Hill is far superior in talent and skill to both of these teams. WB may give Hill a battle because they are rivals and the goalie at WB has shown he can play big at times. The goalie will have to play much better for WB to have a chance. Last night he was o.k. but certainly not a difference maker.

HOCKEY SCOUT wrote:SEC scotty-- good eye. They are very weak on defense this year. their forwards are o.k. but they didn't help much last night on defense. The battles that took place on the boards last night were all Woodbury. I think the size of Woodbury combined with their physical play wore WB out. By the third period WB just didn't have any jump. Both of these teams have good coaches and will improve alot by the end of the year. The S.E.C. is down overall in talent and looks to be a couple years away from having a dominant team. Woodbury will battle with Cretin for a berth in the state tourny. If they were in the same section as WB and Hill they wouldn't have a chance. Hill is far superior in talent and skill to both of these teams. WB may give Hill a battle because they are rivals and the goalie at WB has shown he can play big at times. The goalie will have to play much better for WB to have a chance. Last night he was o.k. but certainly not a difference maker.

That's for sure.

HOCKEY SCOUT wrote:SEC scotty-- good eye. They are very weak on defense this year. their forwards are o.k. but they didn't help much last night on defense. The battles that took place on the boards last night were all Woodbury. I think the size of Woodbury combined with their physical play wore WB out. By the third period WB just didn't have any jump. Both of these teams have good coaches and will improve alot by the end of the year. The S.E.C. is down overall in talent and looks to be a couple years away from having a dominant team. Woodbury will battle with Cretin for a berth in the state tourny. If they were in the same section as WB and Hill they wouldn't have a chance. Hill is far superior in talent and skill to both of these teams. WB may give Hill a battle because they are rivals and the goalie at WB has shown he can play big at times. The goalie will have to play much better for WB to have a chance. Last night he was o.k. but certainly not a difference maker.

Last year Collette was up and down most the year and it is looking like more of the same this year. He likes to play the puck and make a pass. Most times it seems like it causes confusion, and the d-men are scrambling to make a play. I think the team would be better served if he stopped the puck behind the net and let the D handle the breakout.

I wouldn't say the talent is down, there isn't one or two really dominant players. Like Borer, Mueller or Eddy, by the way where are the first two? I would say the talent is more spread out and the Conference is closer top to bottom. My reasoning is this, take Alt at CDH, D1 prospect is he dominating the games he's in like Ryan Mcdounah or Chris Hickey did a few years back? Does that mean he's not as good or the other teams are a little more talented the the overall teams of the years they played?

wow, white bear lost again? they can't beat anyone right now. i am very surprised at how poor they are playing.

Why would you be surprised they are losing? they are losing to teams that are a little better than them. White Bear fans need to relax and let this team try and build. They are not the talent laden team that some people like to think they are. Above average at this time, no better. By the end of the year they will have a shot at playing Hill to go to state along with Roseville and Stillwater. The talent is definately down across the board in the S.E.C. thats part of the reason some of us are moving elsewhere. Fans of these teams will blame coaches and refs all year but the reality is that they are very average with a chance to become pretty good by the end.

HOCKEY SCOUT wrote:Why would you be surprised they are losing? they are losing to teams that are a little better than them. White Bear fans need to relax and let this team try and build. They are not the talent laden team that some people like to think they are. Above average at this time, no better. By the end of the year they will have a shot at playing Hill to go to state along with Roseville and Stillwater. The talent is definately down across the board in the S.E.C. thats part of the reason some of us are moving elsewhere. Fans of these teams will blame coaches and refs all year but the reality is that they are very average with a chance to become pretty good by the end.

im very surprised. all their games they have lost have been by 1 or more.with an exception of moorhead who had 2 empty netters...but they are losing to teams they shouldnt be. i mean, when you put in a goal off of your own teams skate(woodbury)that basically gave the game away in the third, and lose to 2 good teams up in moorhead and fargo by very small margins i just think WBL keeps falling short. and hockeyscout you cant tell me its not a coaches mistake when with a minute left in this game WBL puts out their 4th line and woodbury puts in their 1st. i mean really?how can you NOT blame the coach?

B wrote:

HOCKEY SCOUT wrote:Why would you be surprised they are losing? they are losing to teams that are a little better than them. White Bear fans need to relax and let this team try and build. They are not the talent laden team that some people like to think they are. Above average at this time, no better. By the end of the year they will have a shot at playing Hill to go to state along with Roseville and Stillwater. The talent is definately down across the board in the S.E.C. thats part of the reason some of us are moving elsewhere. Fans of these teams will blame coaches and refs all year but the reality is that they are very average with a chance to become pretty good by the end.

im very surprised. all their games they have lost have been by 1 or more.with an exception of moorhead who had 2 empty netters...but they are losing to teams they shouldnt be. i mean, when you put in a goal off of your own teams skate(woodbury)that basically gave the game away in the third, and lose to 2 good teams up in moorhead and fargo by very small margins i just think WBL keeps falling short. and hockeyscout you cant tell me its not a coaches mistake when with a minute left in this game WBL puts out their 4th line and woodbury puts in their 1st. i mean really?how can you NOT blame the coach?

Is it possible to lose by less than 1?