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hockey59 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:04 pm

elliott70 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:17 pm I, like most, thought Cloquet had a shot.
Now I think Andover has a shot. But Randolph has a pact with the devil so my money is on DEast.

That pact must not include winning State Tournaments the past 20 years

GPGT wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:02 pm Sorry if this was asked already, but will the East cloquet game be live streamed or on tv anywhere? I have dish, so I don't believe I have my9

kniven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:57 pm Well, son-of-a-gun, another close one but one more loss, nonetheless. For better or for worse, the CEC Lumberjacks will always be my numero uno

karl(east) wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:22 pm I wouldn't describe East-Cloquet as a good game tonight--at times it was actually pretty plodding--but the later stages were certainly entertaining.

East has been trapped to death in the early going by opponents, and while they are well-built to grind through that and still find ways to win, it's been a slog. They'll need to score more to be a serious front-line contender, and they need to figure out how to start better...I don't think they've had one good first period yet this season. They get to their game later on, grind away, and eventually score enough to (usually) win. I thought both teams did a good job of limiting the number of quality chances their tenders had to face.

Credit to Cloquet for sticking to the game plan and limiting space. Anderson's breakaway might have been the first odd-man rush the Hounds had all game. Their gameplan is the reason why Donovan's speed couldn't do much...there were always so many guys back to hold him in check. If they stick to the system like that they're certainly capable of playing with anyone, and they cleaned up a lot of the slop in their own end that I saw from them in the Jefferson game. Also, no Mason Langenbrunner tonight? Any intel there?

Very strong special teams from East tonight, so perhaps it was fitting that the winning goal, while not shorthanded, came as a direct result of a (rather sketchy) penalty call that let Anderson sneak behind the D when he left the box. There was a bit of embellishment on both sides in this one, though I did think the penalty on Cloquet ahead of the Lyle goal was legit. Credit to the Hounds for keeping at it and never letting the early frustrations spiral out of control.

That guy for that thing wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:40 pm

karl(east) wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:22 pm I wouldn't describe East-Cloquet as a good game tonight--at times it was actually pretty plodding--but the later stages were certainly entertaining.

East has been trapped to death in the early going by opponents, and while they are well-built to grind through that and still find ways to win, it's been a slog. They'll need to score more to be a serious front-line contender, and they need to figure out how to start better...I don't think they've had one good first period yet this season. They get to their game later on, grind away, and eventually score enough to (usually) win. I thought both teams did a good job of limiting the number of quality chances their tenders had to face.

Credit to Cloquet for sticking to the game plan and limiting space. Anderson's breakaway might have been the first odd-man rush the Hounds had all game. Their gameplan is the reason why Donovan's speed couldn't do much...there were always so many guys back to hold him in check. If they stick to the system like that they're certainly capable of playing with anyone, and they cleaned up a lot of the slop in their own end that I saw from them in the Jefferson game. Also, no Mason Langenbrunner tonight? Any intel there?

Very strong special teams from East tonight, so perhaps it was fitting that the winning goal, while not shorthanded, came as a direct result of a (rather sketchy) penalty call that let Anderson sneak behind the D when he left the box. There was a bit of embellishment on both sides in this one, though I did think the penalty on Cloquet ahead of the Lyle goal was legit. Credit to the Hounds for keeping at it and never letting the early frustrations spiral out of control.

I think that if Ryder wants to live up to his hype, he needs to start breaking through game plans that are fairly obvious towards him. There were numerous times where this line couldn't get the puck out if the zone, hell it resulted in the Jack's first goal.

I think hes good, but he needs to step up more if he wants to be the stand out hes supposed to be.

kniven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:33 pm Mason out with a concussion.

hockey59 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:38 am DE is a different team from last year. Still very disciplined in style, with a lot of depth. Because of this, they can hang with any team in MN. But they lack that GW “blitzkreig” type of scoring ability they had last year. Ryder skates like the wind, but for this team to ramp up to a higher level, he needs to start burying the puck, which so far he isn’t doing enough of

northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:33 am Some of you East guys are having a 1st line hang over from last season expecting an RD line to score
at the same clip. Ain't going to happen.
Dynamic scoring lines like (Mageau, Worth, Donovan) don't come around every year in HS and they had 2 years as a unit to gel and put up big numbers.
The Miller, McGlaughlin, Hain type that can beat you multitude of ways are a rare commodity in the northland.
The 2019 version at East will keep it tight to the belt, be happy you have the depth of personnel to play a defense style and still earn wins and be top ranked club in the state.

hockey59 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 am

northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:33 am Some of you East guys are having a 1st line hang over from last season expecting an RD line to score
at the same clip. Ain't going to happen.
Dynamic scoring lines like (Mageau, Worth, Donovan) don't come around every year in HS and they had 2 years as a unit to gel and put up big numbers.
The Miller, McGlaughlin, Hain type that can beat you multitude of ways are a rare commodity in the northland.
The 2019 version at East will keep it tight to the belt, be happy you have the depth of personnel to play a defense style and still earn wins and be top ranked club in the state.

The won’t be the top ranked team in the State the way they’re currently playing. Realize Ryder will never be the goal scorer Worth was, that’s not realistic or what I’m implying. But based on the rushes he creates and shooting opportunities he creates, he needs to finish better on these numerous chances. I’ve seen Tonka play once (against STA) and DE 3 times now & while DE is capable of scraping out a low scoring, grinding win over Tonka, if the refs call it tight or DE gets behind and has to open it up, they’ll get rolled by Tonka (who are not WBL) Simply too fast & too precise with their passes for DE to handle in this type of game.DE schedule doesn’t match the difficulty of a Lake conf schedule either, I frankly don’t think DE schedule is as tough this year with Centennial, Duluth Marshall being way down this year, to name a couple teams.

That guy for that thing wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:59 am

hockey59 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 am

northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:33 am Some of you East guys are having a 1st line hang over from last season expecting an RD line to score
at the same clip. Ain't going to happen.
Dynamic scoring lines like (Mageau, Worth, Donovan) don't come around every year in HS and they had 2 years as a unit to gel and put up big numbers.
The Miller, McGlaughlin, Hain type that can beat you multitude of ways are a rare commodity in the northland.
The 2019 version at East will keep it tight to the belt, be happy you have the depth of personnel to play a defense style and still earn wins and be top ranked club in the state.

The won’t be the top ranked team in the State the way they’re currently playing. Realize Ryder will never be the goal scorer Worth was, that’s not realistic or what I’m implying. But based on the rushes he creates and shooting opportunities he creates, he needs to finish better on these numerous chances. I’ve seen Tonka play once (against STA) and DE 3 times now & while DE is capable of scraping out a low scoring, grinding win over Tonka, if the refs call it tight or DE gets behind and has to open it up, they’ll get rolled by Tonka (who are not WBL) Simply too fast & too precise with their passes for DE to handle in this type of game.DE schedule doesn’t match the difficulty of a Lake conf schedule either, I frankly don’t think DE schedule is as tough this year with Centennial, Duluth Marshall being way down this year, to name a couple teams.

I think he needs to spread the puck more, with teams game planning for him like CEC and Andover did. Those games showed how easy it is to shut DEast down if you stop Ryder from getting any sort of time. If he were to suck attention, and then dish it, DEast would be in a lot better situation. Yes, he needs to capitalize more, but if he can't break away from a game plan against him, they need to adjust their own game plan.

hockey59 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:27 am

That guy for that thing wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:59 am

hockey59 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 am

The won’t be the top ranked team in the State the way they’re currently playing. Realize Ryder will never be the goal scorer Worth was, that’s not realistic or what I’m implying. But based on the rushes he creates and shooting opportunities he creates, he needs to finish better on these numerous chances. I’ve seen Tonka play once (against STA) and DE 3 times now & while DE is capable of scraping out a low scoring, grinding win over Tonka, if the refs call it tight or DE gets behind and has to open it up, they’ll get rolled by Tonka (who are not WBL) Simply too fast & too precise with their passes for DE to handle in this type of game.DE schedule doesn’t match the difficulty of a Lake conf schedule either, I frankly don’t think DE schedule is as tough this year with Centennial, Duluth Marshall being way down this year, to name a couple teams.

I think he needs to spread the puck more, with teams game planning for him like CEC and Andover did. Those games showed how easy it is to shut DEast down if you stop Ryder from getting any sort of time. If he were to suck attention, and then dish it, DEast would be in a lot better situation. Yes, he needs to capitalize more, but if he can't break away from a game plan against him, they need to adjust their own game plan.

My observation is Ryder has been playing his normal style, flying around & trying to create for his teammates and ripping some shots from the perimeter. Problem is teams know this isn’t the Elite League (where he could set up Biondi) or last year with Worth finishing & Mageau doing the dirty work in the corners (and no LaMaster at the point to break down D coverage going high-low) and opposing teams have accordingly adjusted their defensive schemes to take advantage

northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:52 am

kniven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:33 pm Mason out with a concussion.

Very unfortunate loss for CEC.
Result of the behind the play hit in the Eagan game correct?

kniven wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:45 pm It looks like the early in the season seedings will be:

Andover
East
Elk
CEC/Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids/CEC

Which is interesting because it would mean a possible Duluth East/Cloquet Final showdown, and that is what I want more than anything!!!

kniven wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:45 pm It looks like the early in the season seedings will be:

Andover
East
Elk
CEC/Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids/CEC

Which is interesting because it would mean a possible Duluth East/Cloquet Final showdown, and that is what I want more than anything!!!

northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:30 pm

kniven wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:45 pm It looks like the early in the season seedings will be:

Andover
East
Elk
CEC/Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids/CEC

Which is interesting because it would mean a possible Duluth East/Cloquet Final showdown, and that is what I want more than anything!!!

Knivsy, no way CEC will finish below Rapidly Declining. They are lacking some talent in 2019 as evidenced by their shellacking
at the hands of the Hornets.

kniven wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:38 pm

northwoods oldtimer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:30 pm

kniven wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:45 pm It looks like the early in the season seedings will be:

Andover
East
Elk
CEC/Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids/CEC

Which is interesting because it would mean a possible Duluth East/Cloquet Final showdown, and that is what I want more than anything!!!

Knivsy, no way CEC will finish below Rapidly Declining. They are lacking some talent in 2019 as evidenced by their shellacking
at the hands of the Hornets.

I’m just thinking about the QRF rankings. And at Rapids the last game of the year. I do think it’s a slight possibly Cloquet goes to Rapids in the first round.