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notTONIGHT wrote:

MrGoalieBoy wrote:IMO, Luverne and Hutchinson are going to be very dangerous in this upcoming year. New Ulm will be competitive as well. But, with that being said, my offseason prediction will be Luverne returning to state with their edge on the other teams at the goaltender position.

Luverne has a goalie edge? There is no proven varsity starter. There is a talented tender coming up, but not proven.
IMO its the cardinals biggest question mark. Could be excellent or could be inconsistent. Thats what happens when you lose a 4 year starter in the pipes.

I would agree it is their biggest question mark. But look at the rest of the section, unless there are some stud bantam goalies coming up, I would bet Luverne has the edge.

MrGoalieBoy wrote:

notTONIGHT wrote:

MrGoalieBoy wrote:IMO, Luverne and Hutchinson are going to be very dangerous in this upcoming year. New Ulm will be competitive as well. But, with that being said, my offseason prediction will be Luverne returning to state with their edge on the other teams at the goaltender position.

Luverne has a goalie edge? There is no proven varsity starter. There is a talented tender coming up, but not proven.
IMO its the cardinals biggest question mark. Could be excellent or could be inconsistent. Thats what happens when you lose a 4 year starter in the pipes.

I would agree it is their biggest question mark. But look at the rest of the section, unless there are some stud bantam goalies coming up, I would bet Luverne has the edge.

I dont know if many in Luverne are comparing themselves to the "rest of the section." The common goal of the Cardinal hockey program is to contend at the state level. Step one was taken last year. Many more steps remain.

There are some potential big announcements coming from Cardinal Nation that may emphasize this "trending upward" movement. Brace yourselves, It's happening.



ROLL CARDS ROLL!

NOTtonight what are your thoughts on the top teams in the section for 2014-2015 season?

I think if the CARDS get some goaltending they should be in the top eight aren't they? Or you thinking 3a trout might scare you off?

Thoughts??

Whiner33 wrote:NOTtonight what are your thoughts on the top teams in the section for 2014-2015 season?

I think if the CARDS get some goaltending they should be in the top eight aren't they? Or you thinking 3a trout might scare you off?

Thoughts??

Boy it will be awful tough to crack Section 3A hockey scouts top 7 this year for Section 3A.
Im thinking Windom, Marshall, New Ulm, Litchfield, Hutchinson, Willmar, and Morris Benson will be locked in ahead of the Cards according to scout. The most difficult call he will make, will be if Fairmont, Redwood, or Worthington have made the jump to surpass Luverne.

His reasons will be in line with this...
Windom - Sleeper team, lots of returning points, and a great coaching staff. Tough to beat at home.
Marshall - New facility on the way, the new blood coaching will revitalize the program. Missing the state tournament last year was a fluke, Campion will be impossible to beat in the pipes.
New Ulm - Oh boy here we go, Returning favorites, Section final appearance last year, clearly the best team all year in the section last season, and the coaches. How great are these coaches in New Ulm??
Litchfield - This program has excellent location. This location gets them a schedule vastly superior to the other areas of the section. This will have them playoff ready.
Hutchinson - Dont you guys know what this junior class did as bantams? These guys are the most talented squad in the whole friggin nation. Im surprised shattuck didnt take them as a group prior to last year.
Willmar - If coach T was returning these guys would be in line for the 2015 Stanley cup. That coach rocked, they had a good playoff run, and are really really motivated to perform well. Also, Geography will get them a schedule that will make them unstoppable in the playoffs.
Morris Benson - Hottest team in the state to end the regular season last year. These guys have a good returning goalie, and passion.

Best of the Rest
Luverne - Their coach sucks. Over Hyped. Arrogant fan base.

Worthington - Nowhere to go but up, play gritty

Redwood - Their defense will be great after getting plenty of work over the previous season.

Fairmont - Great facility, Played tough games against section opponents last year, highest potential to move past the "best of the rest"

You guys think we hear this in the next few months? Have to right?

If they play at Benson, that's a trap game.

notTONIGHT wrote:

Luverne - Their coach sucks. Over Hyped. Arrogant fan base.

Only thing I 100% agree on you with. Last year they had too much talent for even their poor coaching staff to mess up in 3A. They were a great representative for our Section at the State Tourney. First team from 3A to really compete.

However, next year... OverHyped (100 % AGREE)
Who stops the puck now the Meyer (Section 3A Player of the Year) is gone. How do you replace the production of Olson (State All Tournament Team) & Norman.

The thing you loved about Luverne last year is they had two GREAT Lines... This year not so much and they had a STUD in the nets.. Big Question Mark there a well.

Arrogant Fan Base .... Not even a Question Just read the Thread people love it when I troll the ROLL CARDS ROLL BANDWAGON!

Last year your boys were great and had a great season and you should be proud of them. They went to State and for once Our Section got great PR. Hopefully others will benefit from that. With that Said that WAS LAST YEAR!!

Next Year is all new:

Power Rankings for 3A Summer 2014 Version
1. New Ulm: Only graduated 2 players... However, Davis was their heart soul and Kraus was a 3 year Starter in the Nets. Still New Ulm is loaded with Senior Talent next season!

2. Hutch: Bring back Senior Studs Cowger & Macemon along with a GREAT Junior Class.... Need to find a goalie. Heard the Head Coaches Nephew will fill the role from locals. He could be the X Factor.

3. Luverne: Bring Back the Dynmaic Duo (Smedsrud & Nelson) Also have the Senior Stud Sengvongxay on the Blue Line. Their Bantams won District 4/5 whoich is mostly 3A Teams. Still have to replace some very good seniors but they will be tough just not as tough as last year.

4. Willmar: Lost 12 Seniors and their Coach. They have the best Goalie of the top 5 coming back. Riever payed alot as Sophomore. They also return one of their most dymnamic forwards and some solid dmen. Will be tough just not as deep as before.

5. LDC: These guys bring back some very good players. They return their top line and most of their Dcore their A Bantams finished 2nd in District 4/5 so young talent is coming. Like many in this Section will need to replace a great goaltender in Wahl.

6. Morris Benson: Made a nice run at the end of last year. Bring back a good portion of that team. They will be tough. Should move up a few spots.

7. Marshall: Lost Campion and some very good seniors. I think this will be an interesting bunch to watch. Lack skill but will get good coaching. I know they will be a strong by the end of the year. Heard their Bantam Goalie moving up is a game changer in the nets.

8. Redwood Valley: Will bring back most of their team this year. They should be much better this year. They have a new coach and many of their top payers were underclassman last year.

9. Windom: Still have some nice pieces just lack the overall depth to contend they seem to be trending downward as a program right now.

10. Fairmont: Still lack talent but they have a good 3 year starter in Cunning in the Nets.

11. Worthington: Will struggle to field a team on a nightly bases....

Section 3A Should be fun again to Watch.

Goaltending: Key question for many in the section....

Also watch LDC, Morris/Benson & Redwood this year they were young last year and took their lumps should be fun to see how much they have improved this year.

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:

notTONIGHT wrote:

Luverne - Their coach sucks. Over Hyped. Arrogant fan base.

Only thing I 100% agree on you with. Last year they had too much talent for even their poor coaching staff to mess up in 3A. They were a great representative for our Section at the State Tourney. First team from 3A to really compete.

However, next year... OverHyped (100 % AGREE)
Who stops the puck now the Meyer (Section 3A Player of the Year) is gone. How do you replace the production of Olson (State All Tournament Team) & Norman.

The thing you loved about Luverne last year is they had two GREAT Lines... This year not so much and they had a STUD in the nets.. Big Question Mark there a well.

Arrogant Fan Base .... Not even a Question Just read the Thread people love it when I troll the ROLL CARDS ROLL BANDWAGON!

Last year your boys were great and had a great season and you should be proud of them. They went to State and for once Our Section got great PR. Hopefully others will benefit from that. With that Said that WAS LAST YEAR!!

Maybe you haven't heard. Take a gander at this trout.

Eagan's Mike Taylor and Luverne's Derrick Brown have been named the state coaches of the year.

The Minnesota Hockey Coaches Association has named its 2014 section coach of the year recipients along with the John Mariucci Award winners as the state coach of the year.

The Mariucci Award winner for Class AA is Mike Taylor of Eagan. It is the first Mariucci Award for Taylor, who has taken his team to the state tournament this year for the fourth time. The Wildcats, who are playing in tonight’s third-place game, claimed third place in 2011, their best finish.

The Class A head coach of the year is Luverne’s Derrick Brown. The Cardinals were the only team in the state to finish the regular season with an unbeaten record (24-0-1). Making its first appearance at the state tournament, Luverne is playing in the consolation championship game today.

Assistant coach of the year awards went to Chris Johnson of Centennial in Class AA and St. Cloud Cathedral’s Ron Brown in Class A.

This year’s academic state champions are LeSuer-Henderson/St. Peter/Tri-City United in Class A and East Ridge in Class AA. The Class AA state academic title is the second consecutive award for head coach Doug Long and the Raptors.

Coach of the Year awards
Section 1AA
Head Coach—Trent Eigner, Lakeville North
Assistant Coach—Todd Karich, Farmington

Section 2AA
Head Coach—Jeff Lindquist, Bloomington Jefferson
Assistant Coach—Tom Streeter, Chanhassen

Section 3AA
Head Coach—Mike Taylor, Eagan
Assistant Coach—Doug Watson, Eagan

Section 4AA
Head Coach—Matt Doman, Stillwater
Assistant Coach—Peter Hamilton, Stillwater

Section 5AA
Head Coach—Ritch Menne, Centennial
Assistant Coach—Chris Johnson, Centennial

Section 6AA
Head Coach—Lee Smith, Eden Prairie
Assistant Coach—John Russo, Benilde-St. Margaret’s

Section 7AA
Head Coach—Mark Manney, Andover
Assistant Coach—Brett Barta, Andover

Section 8AA
Head Coach—Andy Lundbohm, Roseau
Assistant Coach—Bryan Erickson, Roseau^

Class AA John Mariucci Award-State Coach of the Year
Head Coach—Mike Taylor, Eagan
Assistant Coach—Chris Johnson, Centennial

Section 1A
Head Coach—Chris Lonke, New Prague
Assistant Coach—Will Fish, Northfield

Section 2A
Head Coach—Casey Yoder, Orono
Assistant Coach—Dan Paulson, Delano/Rockford

Section 3A
Head Coach—Derrick Brown, Luverne
Assistant Coach—Kullen Schroht, Luverne

Section 4A
Head Coach—Mark Loahr, Totino-Grace
Assistant Coach—Greg Pogreba, St. Paul Johnson

Section 5A
Head Coach—Paul Gibson, Chisago Lakes
Assistant Coach—None Selected

Section 6A
Head Coach—Eric Johnson, St. Cloud Cathedral & John Kothenbeutel, Sauk Rapids/Rice
Assistant Coach—Ron Brown & Tom Bruce, St. Cloud Cathedral

Section 7A
Head Coach—Reed Larson, Virginia-Moutain Iron/Buhl
Assistant Coach—Jason Strukel , Virginia-Moutain Iron/Buhl

Section 8A
Head Coach—Tyler Palmiscno, East Grand Forks^
Assistant Coach—Scott Oliver, East Grand Forks^

Class A John Mariucci Award-State Coach of the Year
Head Coach—Derrick Brown, Luverne
Assistant Coach—Ron Brown, St. Cloud Cathedral

Congrats to Derrick!
I hope Tyler Palmiscno received a few votes as well.

3AScout, for you to say that Luverne coaches are terrible, is absolutely asinine. Do you not realize Luverne has had 3, 20+ Win seasons in a row? Yeah they had one bad game against Marshall in the semi-finals. And this year we saw that with Meyer this past year, Luverne was a class A top 5 or 6 team. Kudos to Their coaching staff.

Congratulations to Luverne's Chaz Smedsrud and Toby Sengvongxay on being named to the Fall Elite League. Having two kids in from Section 3A is good to see. Not sure if we have ever had a kid from Section 3A make the Big League before??

Sounds like according to another thread the Phenom Jaxon Nelson maybe getting some consideration for the LEAGUE as well.

Too bad Senior's From Hutch Cowger or NU Peterson didnt get a spot. I know neither play football in the fall would of been great to see even more 3A Kids get a spot.

Should be a very interesting year in Section 3A .....

Can't wait for another great year!!

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Congratulations to Luverne's Chaz Smedsrud and Toby Sengvongxay on being named to the Fall Elite League. Having two kids in from Section 3A is good to see. Not sure if we have ever had a kid from Section 3A make the Big League before??

Sounds like according to another thread the Phenom Jaxon Nelson maybe getting some consideration for the LEAGUE as well.

Too bad Senior's From Hutch Cowger or NU Peterson didnt get a spot. I know neither play football in the fall would of been great to see even more 3A Kids get a spot.

Should be a very interesting year in Section 3A .....

Can't wait for another great year!!

You get to watch the best player in the section again this year TROUT!

Remember you saying that as being Cowger... You should be embarrassed with that pick...

Wonder how many times the cards will be trapped again this year... 0/22 for you last year!

Better luck this year my friend...

Can somebody provide us with a synopsis of the players that will contribute to the teams in contention?

After that, can we get a brief bio of some of the major contributors to the thread? Where did they go to high school, did they play, where do they live now, do they have kids on a team? The wind has switched a little - Luverne is no longer the underdog that has fallen just short; they had a shot last year, and are heavy favorites this year. Some of the posts from Cards faithful that came off as loyally defending their team last year, now sound a little like a bully shoving the defeated foes' noses in it.

I find this thread periodically intriguing, but have a hard time following the characters - kind of like coming in half way through the 2nd season of Game of Thrones, but with that you can look in the back of the book for help in understanding the relationships.

a defenseman from new ulm played in the Elite league about 5 or 6 years ago, a second from NU almost made it the same year. as good as they were i think the luverne kids are better. new ulms coaching has been good, luvernes is just as good. not to say that they dont lose games they shouldnt from time to time

3a scout any news on Big Sexy? Heard he may be on the move to NA?

What a big blow that would be for the Cards...

Any updates?

Whiner33 wrote:3a scout any news on Big Sexy? Heard he may be on the move to NA?

What a big blow that would be for the Cards...

Any updates?

Wow Huge Update here. He was on the Elite League Roster so I assumed he was staying home.

If this is true the Cards are DONE... Would be devastating loss for their program.

Hutch and New Ulm are now the clear cut front runners for Section 3A

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:

Whiner33 wrote:3a scout any news on Big Sexy? Heard he may be on the move to NA?

What a big blow that would be for the Cards...

Any updates?

Wow Huge Update here. He was on the Elite League Roster so I assumed he was staying home.

If this is true the Cards are DONE... Would be devastating loss for their program.

Hutch and New Ulm are now the clear cut front runners for Section 3A

Should the City of Luverne just burn down the rink? I mean if they are DONE?

notTONIGHT wrote:

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:

Whiner33 wrote:3a scout any news on Big Sexy? Heard he may be on the move to NA?

What a big blow that would be for the Cards...

Any updates?

Wow Huge Update here. He was on the Elite League Roster so I assumed he was staying home.

If this is true the Cards are DONE... Would be devastating loss for their program.

Hutch and New Ulm are now the clear cut front runners for Section 3A

Should the City of Luverne just burn down the rink? I mean if they are DONE?

I think there still going to field a TEAM this year....

What some bad advice from some joker!

I guess he thinks there will never be another opportunity out there. Don't jump out of the rink at your first offer!

Well if that's true that one of the 3 Elite Roster kids are leaving this year, that definitely put a damper on the Cards hopes of returning to state in 2015. I have to assume that "Big Sexy" is Smedsrud? Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?

the thrill wrote:Well if that's true that one of the 3 Elite Roster kids are leaving this year, that definitely put a damper on the Cards hopes of returning to state in 2015. I have to assume that "Big Sexy" is Smedsrud? Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?

Luverne had the "Big Three" this year going into the season. If Sengvongxay, Smedsrud or Nelson were to be leaving early I am sorry yes Luverne would not be a contender this year. Still better then most in 3A but more middle of the pack not a contender.

Those 3 are very good but if you take one away it really make Luverne average in a hurry.

If this rumor is true it would really shake things up in 3A!!

First of all, Nelson made the elite league? I hadn't heard that.

Second, is somebody suggesting the other two are leaving? Based on what info?

Nelson made the Bantam Elite.

And it was Whiner33 that mentioned that he heard "Big Sexy" may be headed to the "NA".

the thrill wrote:Nelson made the Bantam Elite.

And it was Whiner33 that mentioned that he heard "Big Sexy" may be headed to the "NA".

Down in "Roseau South" big sexy is a nickname for sengvongxay. If the rumor is still being floated, i can squash it. Nobody is leaving the team.

notTONIGHT wrote:

the thrill wrote:Nelson made the Bantam Elite.

And it was Whiner33 that mentioned that he heard "Big Sexy" may be headed to the "NA".

Down in "Roseau South" big sexy is a nickname for sengvongxay. If the rumor is still being floated, i can squash it. Nobody is leaving the team.

Take it easy Dude. One good regular season in Section 3A does not get you the title, "Roseau South." We can revisit in about 50 years.

Well both of those tidbits are good to know:
1) Big Sexy is Sengvongxay
2) That no one is leaving the Cards

Froggy Richards wrote:

notTONIGHT wrote:

the thrill wrote:Nelson made the Bantam Elite.

And it was Whiner33 that mentioned that he heard "Big Sexy" may be headed to the "NA".

Down in "Roseau South" big sexy is a nickname for sengvongxay. If the rumor is still being floated, i can squash it. Nobody is leaving the team.

Take it easy Dude. One good regular season in Section 3A does not get you the title, "Roseau South." We can revisit in about 50 years.

perhaps "Roseau Junior Gold" would have been more appropriate.

Hell, I've been in and around hockey for 30+ years, this is the first year I even remember Luverne being relevant.

Enjoy the season Luverne, great talent down there. But let's not make this out to be a historic run.