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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:33 pm
by High Flyer
I see the Elite II hand picked all star team could only manage to win one game in the Nike Bauer, finishing 4th out of 5 teams in thier pool (a rather weak one at that).

Still think the Elite II league was not "watered down"?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:59 pm
by Pucknutz69
watered down? the team had 4 practices and played 3 games before heading down. the teams they played have been together all summer if not longer. they weren't expected to go down and win it, it was for exposure. Also not the best kids in the Elite 2 were representing, they still had to pay and a few of the better kids didn't go. most were from the 3AA/A team.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:02 am
by RLStars
It wasn't "hand picked" from the league as a whole. It was picked from the players that said they would play on it at the beginning of the season.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:30 am
by seek & destroy
Top 25 from Elite II league - 2008 Regular Season

#1 Jacob Ladouceur North Dakota 11 goals, 13 assists = 24 points
#1 Seth Barnes 6A/6AA 6 goals, 18 assists = 24 points
#3 Alex Racino Team Wisconsin 13 goals, 10 assists = 23 points
#4 Trevor George 8A/8AA 3 goals, 18 assists = 21 points
#5 Austin Plaine West Metro 12 goals, 8 assists = 20 points
#5 Julius Tamasey 7A/7AA 9 goals, 11 assists = 20 points
#7 Scott Holm 6A/6AA 11 goals, 8 assists = 19 points
#7 Brandon Macleod 8A/8AA 10 goals, 9 assists = 19 points
#7 Max McCormick Team Wisconsin 7 goals, 12 assists = 19 points
#10 Cole Kostzcewski 8A/8AA 10 goals, 8 assists = 18 points
#10 Keith Howe North Dakota 8 goals, 10 assists = 18 points
#12 Kyle Kramer 8A/8AA 11 goals, 6 assists = 17 points
#12 Jake Storo 2A/2AA 11 goals, 6 assists = 17 points
#12 DJ Jones 6A/6AA 8 goals, 9 assists = 17 points
#12 Brady Ramthun 3A/3AA 8 goals, 9 assists = 17 points
#12 Mitchell Rogge 6A/6AA 7 goals, 10 assists = 17 points
#12 Codi Wilder 8A/8AA 5 goals, 12 assists = 17 points
#18 Lucas Gervais 8A/8AA 9 goals, 7 assists = 16 points
#18 William Nelson 6A/6AA 8 goals, 8 assists = 16 points
#18 Adam Smyth 2A/2AA 7 goals, 9 assists = 16 points
#21 Ken Mellin 7A/7AA 8 goals, 7 assists = 15 points
#21 Brock Dahl North Dakota 8 goals, 7 assists = 15 points
#21 Jason Johnson 7A/7AA 7 goals, 8 assists = 15 points
#21 Austin Bailey 2A/2AA 6 goals, 9 assists = 15 points
#21 Chase Nystedt 2A/2AA 6 goals, 9 assists = 15 points
#21 Pat Steinhauser 6A/6AA 4 goals, 11 assists = 15 points

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:46 pm
by bananastick
Didn't age play a factor in who was selected to play?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:04 pm
by Doglover
Yes - I believe you had to be a '92 or younger to compete at the U16 level in Chicago. Have to still admit surprise at how poorly the MN kids performed and represented MN in a big AAA tournament. If this is our Elite group of kids, the rest of the country might be leaving MN in the dust. I think I heard (or read) that their bracket wasn't even particularly strong!

Here are the teams.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:13 pm
by Sioux Fan
IIT (Nike Bauer 2008) Division Tournaments Nike Bauer 2008Nike Bauer 2007
Midget Minor U16s NIKE H - Division Schedule

Detroit HoneyBaked U16s 5 MN Hockey Elite II U16s 2 Fri, Oct 31

MN Hockey Elite II U16s 2 Philadelphia Little Flyers U16s 2 Fri, Oct 31

Milwaukee Jr Admirals U16s 2 MN Hockey Elite II U16s 6 Sat, Nov 01

MN Hockey Elite II U16s 1 PF Changs U16s 4 Sat, Nov 01 7:10 pm final

I believe that PF Changs and Detroit Honey Baked are good programs.

They practice together every day. Our MN kids are not that tough any more. It is the facts. We need more tough competition not less. We need to acknowledge that Elite is not an accurate term for where our players are.


I think the Philadelphia Flyers played tough too!

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:16 pm
by seek & destroy
bananastick wrote:Didn't age play a factor in who was selected to play?
The list above is of league leaders from all players that were part of Elite II not just the group that went to Chicago.

The team that went to Chicago was 92's that indicated they were interested in going down there (on their registration form) and willing to spend the extra money. Some chose not to go but the team that went was a good group of players.

For those questioning our success down in Chicago, keep in mind that some of the strongest 92's made the regular Elite league and therefore were not abel to be a part of this. I also think that they played pretty well against good competition. Sometimes the score doesn't reflect how competitively close the game was.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:44 pm
by Papa Bergundy
If you think the best players from Elite II went to Chicago, you are sadly mistaken. If you think the best 92's went there as well, you also, are sadly mistaken.

Parents don't need to spend the extra 500 it costed, and some kids just aren't that interested in going to Chicago for one lousy tournament. It's not like this was the USA cup or something crowning America's finest.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:10 pm
by Doglover
Yeah - it wasn't like the Meltdown or anything! Heck it didn't even take place in the State of Hockey :shock: