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Posted: **Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:58 pm**

FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:
High Flyer wrote:
FREDFLINTSTONE wrote: I know why your moniker is "High Flyer" :wink:
Going into the sr. season I think it's a dead heat between Everson-Edina and Rau-EP. Sure, a lot of people look at the numbers that Rau has put up and it is always tough to compare a defenseman to a forward when just looking at stats.

But right now I'm looking at who is the best player on the ice this year and who is having the greatest positive impact for their team. I watched the two last week very closely, and Everson would have my vote right now, though it’s early with a lot of hockey to be played.

I will also say there are a hand full of other seniors, who with a big year, could very well over take these two, especially if they don't perform to the level of everyone’s expectations:

My Mr. Hockey Nominations
Edina-Everson, Sit, Fogarty
EP-Rau, Molenar
STA-Fleming, Reid, Schroeder
HM-Bahe, Becker, Controneo
Wayzata-Cameriski
White Bear-Wahlin, Birkinbine
Mtka-Shutt
AHA-Labate
Virgina-Hendrickson
Roseau-Omdahl
BSM-Daily
WBL-Wahlin, Birkinbine
Get real. Everson is good, but no way Mr. Hockey. Did any of the players you have listed lead their team in scoring the past 2 years?

Not sure. Did Leddy??? So......whats your point Fred?

Posted: **Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:07 pm**

Posted: **Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:24 pm**

High Flyer wrote:
FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:
High Flyer wrote: Going into the sr. season I think it's a dead heat between Everson-Edina and Rau-EP. Sure, a lot of people look at the numbers that Rau has put up and it is always tough to compare a defenseman to a forward when just looking at stats.

But right now I'm looking at who is the best player on the ice this year and who is having the greatest positive impact for their team. I watched the two last week very closely, and Everson would have my vote right now, though it’s early with a lot of hockey to be played.

I will also say there are a hand full of other seniors, who with a big year, could very well over take these two, especially if they don't perform to the level of everyone’s expectations:

My Mr. Hockey Nominations
Edina-Everson, Sit, Fogarty
EP-Rau, Molenar
STA-Fleming, Reid, Schroeder
HM-Bahe, Becker, Controneo
Wayzata-Cameriski
White Bear-Wahlin, Birkinbine
Mtka-Shutt
AHA-Labate
Virgina-Hendrickson
Roseau-Omdahl
BSM-Daily
WBL-Wahlin, Birkinbine
Get real. Everson is good, but no way Mr. Hockey. Did any of the players you have listed lead their team in scoring the past 2 years?
Not sure. Did Leddy??? So......whats your point Fred?

Rau did last year, but get real guys Rau's the clearcut Mr. Hockey and barring injury it won't even be a race. He's just too good.

Posted: **Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:19 pm**

No one from East?

Posted: **Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:16 pm**

Couple of observations:

Heard Everson is leaving for NTDP - if so he is out.
Think Rau could be strong possobility based on long track record
Agree with above- Frawley from Tonka is someone to watch- nhl scouts are
Jones from Wayzata could be added as longshot
Got a feeling it could be forward this year
Lot of hockey to play yet...

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:27 am**

Factsmatter1 wrote:Heard Everson is leaving for NTDP - if so he is out.

You sure? USA Hockey already release the U18 roster and he's not on it...

Roster

Also, they've got eight defensemen without him. Even if one of them bows out or gets injured, they probably won't need to add another.

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:36 pm**

The Exiled One wrote:
Factsmatter1 wrote:Heard Everson is leaving for NTDP - if so he is out.
You sure? USA Hockey already release the U18 roster and he's not on it...

Roster

Also, they've got eight defensemen without him. Even if one of them bows out or gets injured, they probably won't need to add another.

Heard it secondhand from team parent...

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:23 pm**

What would have to happen for a goalie to win Mr hockey?

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:25 pm**

murray wrote:What would have to happen for a goalie to win Mr hockey?

They aren't eligible. They have their own award... the Frank Brimsek Award.

Posted: **Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:47 pm**

old goalie85 wrote:No one from East?

With a huge year Zac Schendel (off to a strong start in the Elite League, for what it's worth) might crack the finalist list, but any realistic Mr. Hockey candidates from East are a year or two away.

Posted: **Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:36 pm**

Factsmatter1 wrote:
The Exiled One wrote:
Factsmatter1 wrote:Heard Everson is leaving for NTDP - if so he is out.
You sure? USA Hockey already release the U18 roster and he's not on it...

Roster

Also, they've got eight defensemen without him. Even if one of them bows out or gets injured, they probably won't need to add another.
Heard it secondhand from team parent...

Got the details... Everson will be with Edina this year, but he's filling in for some injured NTDP players early in the season.

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:01 pm**

HockeyMN1 wrote:
High Flyer wrote:
FREDFLINTSTONE wrote: Get real. Everson is good, but no way Mr. Hockey. Did any of the players you have listed lead their team in scoring the past 2 years?
Not sure. Did Leddy??? So......whats your point Fred?
Rau did last year, but get real guys Rau's the clearcut Mr. Hockey and barring injury it won't even be a race. He's just too good.

So far this elite league season, I think one of the most impressive and dominate forwards I have seen is Cameriski. I just checked the stats on the Hub and I see he has 17 pts in 9 games which is the league leader.

As for FREDFLINTSTONE's Mr. Hockey "clearcut favorite" coming into this year, I see he has 11 pts in 9 games that include 6 pts in one game vs. the lowly Norway…

Posted: **Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:11 pm**

High Flyer wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:
High Flyer wrote: Not sure. Did Leddy??? So......whats your point Fred?
Rau did last year, but get real guys Rau's the clearcut Mr. Hockey and barring injury it won't even be a race. He's just too good.
So far this elite league season, I think one of the most impressive and dominate forwards I have seen is Cameriski. I just checked the stats on the Hub and I see he has 17 pts in 9 games which is the league leader.

As for FREDFLINTSTONE's Mr. Hockey "clearcut favorite" coming into this year, I see he has 11 pts in 9 games that include 6 pts in one game vs. the lowly Norway…

Well then its obviously time to push the panic button. I mean, if Rau can't put up the best numbers in the elite league in September, how could anyone possibly expect him to do so in December??? I mean if he has a whole 6 less points than Cameriski, what's the point of even taking the ice??? Obviously he's lost his whole game and the U got another dud recruit. And damn those lowly Norwegians, they must have just let him rack up stats so he'd look at least halfway respectable. But nope, you just saw right through them didn't you. Great work. Look forward to seeing Cameriski accept the award this year.

Posted: **Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:57 am**

High Flyer wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:
High Flyer wrote: Not sure. Did Leddy??? So......whats your point Fred?
Rau did last year, but get real guys Rau's the clearcut Mr. Hockey and barring injury it won't even be a race. He's just too good.
So far this elite league season, I think one of the most impressive and dominate forwards I have seen is Cameriski. I just checked the stats on the Hub and I see he has 17 pts in 9 games which is the league leader.

As for FREDFLINTSTONE's Mr. Hockey "clearcut favorite" coming into this year, I see he has 11 pts in 9 games that include 6 pts in one game vs. the lowly Norway…

Dude,

Not sure where Wayzata picked upped this new kid Camersiki. With Tony Cameranesi and this new Cameriski kid, Wayzata should be solid. Rau is still front runner. Top AA scorer last year.....I look for the same. Elite league stats....If it makes you feel good...go for it.

Posted: **Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:39 pm**

mghockey18 wrote:
StayAtHomeD wrote:
hockeyfan893 wrote:As much as I agree with you Stay, it never will happen. I sure hope it does though, there's lots of deserving kids that could be getting recognition.
It makes me sick what the politics and overtraining have done to hockey. Just look at what happened to New Ulm this year in the Tourney. A bunch of kids who probably play 3 other sports plus work full time on their family's farm. They finally make a State Tourney and they get their butts kicked by a bunch of kids who play hockey 11 months of the year, parents that spend 10 grand+ per year on extra training.

Tough world. Get over it.

The Mr. Hockey Award isn't about the best human being in Minnesota HS Hockey. It is about the BEST player in Minnesota High School Hockey.

Everyone is just so sensitive....

....if the award was given to people with great hearts and great jobs they would probably change the name...I agree it is a tough world...i'm still wondering why they give second place medals....

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:16 am**

it means nothing. most of the mr hockey winners dont amount to a pile of dung found on the farm in new ulm. most of those guys get crushed at the next level? brian bonin? please. what is he, a boat salesman in white bear lake?? come on

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:36 am**

hockeypittsburgh01 wrote:it means nothing. most of the mr hockey winners dont amount to a pile of dung found on the farm in new ulm. most of those guys get crushed at the next level? brian bonin? please. what is he, a boat salesman in white bear lake?? come on

I believe he won the Hoby and played a few games in the NHL. What did you do?

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:33 am**

mulefarm wrote:
hockeypittsburgh01 wrote:it means nothing. most of the mr hockey winners dont amount to a pile of dung found on the farm in new ulm. most of those guys get crushed at the next level? brian bonin? please. what is he, a boat salesman in white bear lake?? come on
I believe he won the Hoby and played a few games in the NHL. What did you do?

I'm pretty sure the current Gophers wouldn't mind having a 100 career goal scorer on their team.

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:28 am**

FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:
High Flyer wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote: Rau did last year, but get real guys Rau's the clearcut Mr. Hockey and barring injury it won't even be a race. He's just too good.
So far this elite league season, I think one of the most impressive and dominate forwards I have seen is Cameriski. I just checked the stats on the Hub and I see he has 17 pts in 9 games which is the league leader.

As for FREDFLINTSTONE's Mr. Hockey "clearcut favorite" coming into this year, I see he has 11 pts in 9 games that include 6 pts in one game vs. the lowly Norway…
Dude,

Not sure where Wayzata picked upped this new kid Camersiki. With Tony Cameranesi and this new Cameriski kid, Wayzata should be solid. Rau is still front runner. Top AA scorer last year.....I look for the same. Elite league stats....If it makes you feel good...go for it.

Hey Fred, how many points did Rau have in his first his head to head match up this season with Everson the other night?

Round 1 goes to Everson

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:32 pm**

it means nothing. most of the mr hockey winners dont amount to a pile of dung found on the farm in new ulm. most of those guys get crushed at the next level? brian bonin? please. what is he, a boat salesman in white bear lake?? come on

Great example of someone who couldnt hack it at the next level (college hockey). Bonin only scored 200+ points while in college. dominated in the AHL and in in Europe in what are two of the best leagues below the NHL. So he didn't make it as a 5-9 American in the NHL as it was 10-12 yrs ago? Do you have a better example than that?

From wikipedia so i can't say its a totally reliable source:
After being named Minnesota Mr. Hockey in 1992 for his play at White Bear Lake Area High School, Bonin entered the University of Minnesota. His stellar time with the Golden Gophers culminated with winning the Hobey Baker Award, given to the most outstanding collegiate hockey player in the NCAA, in his senior season. Bonin led the nation in scoring during the 1995-1996 season at the University of Minnesota, and was named a first-team All-American, WCHA Player of the Year, first-team All-WCHA, and team Most Valuable Player in both his junior and senior seasons

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:00 pm**

Couldn't agree more BBB, right on the mark!

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:01 pm**

High Flyer wrote:
FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:
High Flyer wrote: So far this elite league season, I think one of the most impressive and dominate forwards I have seen is Cameriski. I just checked the stats on the Hub and I see he has 17 pts in 9 games which is the league leader.

As for FREDFLINTSTONE's Mr. Hockey "clearcut favorite" coming into this year, I see he has 11 pts in 9 games that include 6 pts in one game vs. the lowly Norway…
Dude,

Not sure where Wayzata picked upped this new kid Camersiki. With Tony Cameranesi and this new Cameriski kid, Wayzata should be solid. Rau is still front runner. Top AA scorer last year.....I look for the same. Elite league stats....If it makes you feel good...go for it.
Hey Fred, how many points did Rau have in his first his head to head match up this season with Everson the other night?

Round 1 goes to Everson

It's not a game by game tournament

Posted: **Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:14 pm**

Posted: **Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:25 pm**

The Exiled One wrote:
scoreboard33 wrote:
The Exiled One wrote: Speaking of great years of HS hockey, it's hard to argue for Ness over Gardiner and then NOT argue for Hanowski over Leddy.
Not really... Hanowski was leading his team to an undefeated season at the time of the voting when Leddy's team had already lost three games. Also, Hanowski was considered the highest scoring player in the history of HS Hockey in Minnesota, just the size a typical NHL forward should be. Leddy was a close second but didn't control games like Hanowski did.
FYP

Hanowski controlled games against teams that would have lost to the EP Bantam A team. Leddy controlled the whole AA state tournament and is now playing for the Stanley Cup Champions. The jury is came back.

Posted: **Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:27 pm**

HockeyMN1 wrote: Hanowski controlled games against teams that would have lost to the EP Bantam A team. Leddy controlled the whole AA state tournament and is now playing for the Stanley Cup Champions. The jury is came back.

PLUS, Leddy was a Gopher!

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