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HM is at its max right now. We had to hire more teachers this year for more students. I dont know where we could possibly put anymore students, i have a hard enough time getting through the halls as it is

The thing is with being "full" is that CDH gets an obscene amount of freshmen applicants each year. And because of their location they draw from all over St. Paul, and get a fair number of kids not from catholic grade schools. And while they might be closed to freshmen, I haven't seen a person get turned away who wants to transfer in later. They have to be very strict in 9th grade just because of the volume of kids that apply. If they didn't put those "favorable factors" into the equation they would be admitting 500-600 kids a grade, which they can't physically accommodate, and frankly, they don't want to, because of the drop off in quality of education they would probably undergo by raising class sizes.

STA and CDH are very different when they attract kids, because STA turns away a whole half of the population being all male. Also the military aspect of the school turns off a lot of people who are weary of the "implications" of a JROTC program. From my experience, my uncle, an STA grad, is sending his two sons to Minnehaha because of my aunt's feelings on the military. So I wouldn't say finance is as big of a deterrent as the atmosphere is, some people want a coed school, some don't, some don't care.

Packerboy, not everyone recieves financial aid that goes to STA, so quit making blunt statements that you no nothing about.

mnhockey9009 wrote:Packerboy, not everyone recieves financial aid that goes to STA, so quit making blunt statements that you no nothing about.

A vast majority recieve financial aid, or scholarships, when I say a vast majority i mean close to 80%. Also, the tuition is decreased for everyone by a couple thousand because of donations and the endowment of the institution. So "technically" no one is paying full price. I would say packerboy has a good grasp of private schools, so try not to come off as a belligerent jerk next time k?

mnhockey9009, How many STA people pay the full cost of educating the student.

Not full tuition without aid but the full cost of all the facilities and staff without any discount due to donations and fundraising.

ok, I misread. I thought you were talking about tuition. not the cost of educating each individual. but you are right, the tuition is brought down alot by donations from alums, and that sort of thing.

wow, mnhockey9009, we finally get a respectful thread about a private school and you have to be a jerk. Packerboy, myself and others have commented on the financial situation.
1. Everyone's tuition is brought down from the total cost of what the education. The students are reminded of this every year.
2. No, everyone doesn't get financial aid, only about 4 out of every 5 people do.

Obviously I'm not bashing STA (I am a graduate of The Academy), but some people don't have their facts straight. From the STA website (www.cadets.com):

1. 75% are Catholic.
2. 30% receive financial aid/scholarships.
3. The Academy will award more than 1.5 million in financial this year.
4. 100% took a college entrance exam (ACT,SAT, or both)
5. 2007 SAT VERBAL MEAN 609

2007 SAT MATH MEAN 622
2007 ACT COMPOSITE AVERAGE 26.8
STATE AVERAGE: 22.3 , Minnesota has the highest average in the country (70% of graduating students statewide took the test).

"Last year, 100% of our graduates continued their
education at post-secondary institutions. Since 1995,
66% of Academy graduates have attended either “most,
highly, or very competitive” post-secondary schools, as
ranked by Barron’s Guide. Saint Thomas Academy does
not provide class rank."

"76% of the class received
at least one scholarship."

"Approximately 83% of the teachers hold a Masters or Ph.D. in their field."

"As part of the graduation requirement, seniors volunteer 100 hours of community service time to organizations across the Twin Cities. On a regular basis, students also work with Sharing and Caring Hands, Meal on Wheels, Catholic Charities, and Habitat for Humanity. Campus Ministry programs work with people in the state, the country, and abroad."

"Saint Thomas Academy has the largest financial assistance package available, as a percentage of tuition, for a private school in Minnesota. We awarded $1,500,000 in need-based grants for the
2007-08 school year. "

thestickler07 wrote: I would say packerboy has a good grasp of private schools, so try not to come off as a belligerent jerk next time k?

You might want to follow your own advice as well.

deacon wrote:


"1. 75% are Catholic. "

Yah , but the other 25% wish they were.

This started out with a simple How is St Thomas going to be this year and transgressed into an argument of Private vs Public. Why does that always seem to happen in here?

pioneers wrote:This started out with a simple How is St Thomas going to be this year and transgressed into an argument of Private vs Public. Why does that always seem to happen in here?

Because sometimes, people are dumb. They have nothing better to offer.

That's okay, stuff like that can be dealt with.

Lee