Advanced 15's National List

[skills_coach1]

Individuals from Royal Team that made the 22 cut
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Jungles
Bischoff
Ahcan
Goalie Klaers

[Bluewhitefan]

Individuals from Royal Team that made the 22 cut
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Jungles
Bischoff
Ahcan
Goalie Klaers

Where are the rest of the names? Can someone post them?

[suzannehanrahan]

wow, I thought "in" as an alternate might have been a stretch

Guess I was wrong

Dont be suprised if you see Dornbach as an alternate and magically end up on the team when someone cannot make the trip.

Am I in an extreme minority in thinking that Dornbach actually deserves to be there? No mention of Zuhlsdorf?

Emphasis on Extreme! Dornbach is a nice player, but to put him in the national camp discussion is crazy. There are a number of players that are not in the discussion that play the whole ice. Dornbach played around his stature - and got away with it, but until he leanrs to take a hit, he'll just be a pretty stick-handler. Zuhlsdorf was the 2nd best 97 defenseman in Edina this year - and the best one didn't even make the festival.

[bauerhockey99]

Forwards:
Zimmer
Jungles
Tweten
Bischoff
Kaske
Pitlick
Baer
Garin
Jungwirth
Bender
Versich
Freytag
Dornbach

Defense:
Klehr
Newhouse
Ausmus
Heid
J Olson
Sengvongxay
Achan

[hockeyoldtimer]

Goalies I heard Ahrens, Robert, and Klaers.
Don't know which one is alternate but would assume Klaers.

[bender1]

Forwards
Zimmer
Jungles
Tweten
Bischoff
Kaske
Pitlick
Baer
Garin
Jungwirth
Bender
Versich
Freytag
Dornbach

Defense:
Klehr
Newhouse
Ausmus
Heid
J Olson
Sengvongxay
Achan

Goalies
Ehrens
Klaers
Alt. Robert

[frederick61]

Posted a new article on Thursday's games, but I am waiting for a formal list out of Minnesota Hockey, so there are no names mentioned.

http://youthhockeyhub.com/

[bender1]

Alt. Forwards
Mcdonald
Bump
Hammer

Alt. Defense
Saccoman
Krych
Zuhlsdorf?

Alt Goalies
Robert
Berger

[buttend]

Forwards
Zimmer
Jungles
Tweten
Bischoff
Kaske
Pitlick
Baer
Garin
Jungwirth
Bender
Versich
Freytag
Dornbach

Defense:
Klehr
Newhouse
Ausmus
Heid
J Olson
Sengvongxay
Achan

Goalies
Ehrens
Klaers
Alt. Robert

Congratulations to all the kids that made the team. As always there very good players that dont get selected. The selection of the Edina boy puts a black mark on the entire selection process. Over the years it is said that Select 15's is very political. I guess when you volunteer your time as an Edina coach this is your paycheck.

[greybeard58]

Lets wait until Mn Hockey has the list posted on their web site,which means all have been contacted. Any other list is speculation.

[Bluewhitefan]

Forwards
Zimmer
Jungles
Tweten
Bischoff
Kaske
Pitlick
Baer
Garin
Jungwirth
Bender
Versich
Freytag
Dornbach

Defense:
Klehr
Newhouse
Ausmus
Heid
J Olson
Sengvongxay
Achan

Goalies
Ehrens
Klaers
Alt. Robert

Congratulations to all the kids that made the team. As always there very good players that dont get selected. The selection of the Edina boy puts a black mark on the entire selection process. Over the years it is said that Select 15's is very political. I guess when you volunteer your time as an Edina coach this is your paycheck.

buttend is right on. This kid was borderline coming out of D6, let alone the National team. MN Hockey has truly outdone themselves with this one. Over Bump??? I watched a few sessions up there and in my mind it wasn't even a close call. Lots of calling for the puck out in the neutral zone while his linemates did the work. I've said before, nice player, but top 20 in the state??? Sorry, but NO.

[SECoach]

Forwards
Zimmer
Jungles
Tweten
Bischoff
Kaske
Pitlick
Baer
Garin
Jungwirth
Bender
Versich
Freytag
Dornbach

Defense:
Klehr
Newhouse
Ausmus
Heid
J Olson
Sengvongxay
Achan

Goalies
Ehrens
Klaers
Alt. Robert

Congratulations to all the kids that made the team. As always there very good players that dont get selected. The selection of the Edina boy puts a black mark on the entire selection process. Over the years it is said that Select 15's is very political. I guess when you volunteer your time as an Edina coach this is your paycheck.

Just a clarification, this is not a "team", but individual players are selected and mixed amongst players from others USA Hockey districts to form "teams". Congrats to the players that were selected.

[sorno82]

Whether you think a kid legitimately made it or not, there is no need to drag his name through the dirt. They are only 14/15, not sure it is fair to the kid. If you have an issue with the parent or minnhock- talk to them personally. Leave the kid out of it.

[O-townClown]

Sorn, I agree. There's no way anyone will agree with all the selections. Best wishes to the kids moving on! Represent Minnesota!

[karl(east)]

Whether you think a kid legitimately made it or not, there is no need to drag his name through the dirt. They are only 14/15, not sure it is fair to the kid. If you have an issue with the parent or minnhock- talk to them personally. Leave the kid out of it.

Exactly.

[hockeyoldtimer]

Sorno and out of town,

Those are all great sentiments and life lessons for our kids about life not being fair. No one wants to pick on the one boy but how about all the boys who are alternates or didn't make it because they don't live in Wayzata or Edina or go to a school Minnesota Hockey frowns on. No one wants to say it, but we all know it's true. Yes let's be happy for the ones who made it but we should also be sad for the ones who truly deserved to go.
If Minnesota sent a "team" of truly our best, it would be amazing.

[MrBoDangles]

Sorno and out of town,

Those are all great sentiments and life lessons for our kids about life not being fair. No one wants to pick on the one boy but how about all the boys who are alternates or didn't make it because they don't live in Wayzata or Edina or go to a school Minnesota Hockey frowns on. No one wants to say it, but we all know it's true. Yes let's be happy for the ones who made it but we should also be sad for the ones who truly deserved to go.
If Minnesota sent a "team" of truly our best, it would be amazing.

Good Ole boy club has infiltrated the Advanced program. This was the last stronghold.. Your post sums it up best.

[BigBear]

It is an agonizing process, picking the top players to represent MN at any age level, lets not forget that. It is not an exact science, but these folks know what they are doing. It is my hope that a player not selected will be HUNGRIER and continue to train, work hard, and keep a positive attitude.
The one who is cut could be our strongest player to represent MN and beyond in the near future.

[Northland Cannon]

Its a shame to see all the player bashing, especially from those that watch 15 minutes of a game and think they have it all figured out. The Advance 15 selections are based on practice, work ethic, attitude, games, hockey IQ, behavior, attentiveness, etc. Everyone involved with the process (coaches, trainers and councilors) weigh in and careful review, and discuss, each every player the best they can. Do they get it right all the time...probably not but they are in the trenches and see a lot more than those in the stands that stop by to watch a few periods of a game. Just food for thought before we all start blasting kids and those involved with the selections. Congrats to the kids who made and keep pushing ahead to those that didn't.

[O-townClown]

People complain about the selection process for Player Development in the Southeast too. That means the system is corrupt?

[Bruins]

It is an agonizing process, picking the top players to represent MN at any age level, lets not forget that. It is not an exact science, but these folks know what they are doing. It is my hope that a player not selected will be HUNGRIER and continue to train, work hard, and keep a positive attitude.
The one who is cut could be our strongest player to represent MN and beyond in the near future.

Sweet, very touching, altough not true. There are some players that will never get the shot because of being from a smaller association or lack of name recognition. How many players were from D3 and D6? I think it was pretty lopsided. "Hungrier, work hard, positive attitude", sometimes thats just not enough. I would like to tell the the kids that outperformed kids on this list that the future does look bright though. No, you wont get picked for 16s or 17s. Soon there will be coaches that look for talent because there job depends on it. Ask yourself this, if these evaluators had to pick a team that could compete against the rest of the USA or Canada and their jobs depended on it would you see the same list??? Of course not. Some kids do deserve to be on the list, some do not........life isnt fair, this won't be the first or the last time. This is the real lesson.

[greybeard58]

I still have not seen the official list on the Mn Hockey web site so if someone here has the official list,please inform us how you have it. As to the good old boy network at the camp please take a look at the coaches and counselors and you will find the only ones with a direct connection to the Mn Hockey board are the Program director and the asst Program director.
Every year on average there is a 50% turnover from the 15's to the 16's and 17's. There have been quite a few that never tried out for the 15's that made the final team at the 16's.
As for picking a team to compete that is not what this camp is about,it is to identify talented players. My team would have some but also you need role players which the high end players do not do very well. My players would be those that embrace the team concept ahead of individual honors.
For those here that chose to bash 15 and 16 year old children grow up and show respect to these kids as they along with all others have worked hard to get there and as in life some succeed and some come up short, also remember that these 15 year old's are at about 50% on their total development.

[spin-o-rama]

Sorno and out of town,

Those are all great sentiments and life lessons for our kids about life not being fair. No one wants to pick on the one boy but how about all the boys who are alternates or didn't make it because they don't live in Wayzata or Edina or go to a school Minnesota Hockey frowns on. No one wants to say it, but we all know it's true. Yes let's be happy for the ones who made it but we should also be sad for the ones who truly deserved to go.
If Minnesota sent a "team" of truly our best, it would be amazing.

One boy took how many people's places?

[Haute hockeymom]

The two guys running the program are the current District 3 Director and a former District 3 Director?

[O-townClown]

One boy took how many people's places?

Great point.