Jags over Blaze

[The Best in the Bizz3]

Sounds like the Jaguars pulled off a nice W that hopefully will get them on the right track towards play off time. Anyone have the box score? Hasn't reached the hub yet.

[88keys]

This was one of the three games I saw today. Not sure what has happened to a once pretty good Blaze team, but they looked awful for the first 2 periods. They made a goalie switch when they were down 5-2, and actually outplayed Jefferson in the 3rd - with the final being 5-4.

I think Jefferson scored in the 3rd, but it was disallowed. Burnsville also scored with 30 seconds to go, but it was disallowed also. Both were goals - but it doesn't matter - Jaguars get a much deserved win, as Burnsville continues their free fall.

[HShockeywatcher]

This makes things interesting in section 2AA. I could see 2-4 being justified in any order at this point. Prior Lake still plays both Jefferson and Burnsville, so the 2 seed appears to be theirs if they can win those games.

It is interesting that Burnsville and Holy Angels are the only teams Edina has played.

[Zamman]

Jefferson's win is kind of a problem now.
I had the order, as of Friday as:
1 - Edina
2 - Burnsville
3 - Prior Lake
4 - AHA, then Chanhassen
5 - Chanhassen then AHA
6 - Jefferson
7 - Kennedy then Shakopee
8 - Shakopee then Kennedy

A couple of upsets in the section...

Jefferson skates a tough conference and may now have some political points.

I am staying with this....for now

[oldschoolpuckster]

This looks to me like a team that is not responding to their coach. Starting a Freshman goalie in the Lakeville South game? Message not being recieved by the players...

[Edgy]

Jefferson's win is kind of a problem now.
I had the order, as of Friday as:
1 - Edina
2 - Burnsville
3 - Prior Lake
4 - AHA, then Chanhassen
5 - Chanhassen then AHA
6 - Jefferson
7 - Kennedy then Shakopee
8 - Shakopee then Kennedy

A couple of upsets in the section...

Jefferson skates a tough conference and may now have some political points.

I am staying with this....for now

....AHA will be the 6th seed

[HShockeywatcher]

....AHA will be the 6th seed

This year I actually don't disagree that it probably will happen.

That being said, it's disappointing that these teams don't play much of each other. If Burnsville gets the #2, it would be tough to say [to me] to say the 6 seed is 1 goal worse than the 2 seed.

[Indabox]

communication with his players at all levels has been his problem from the start,as well as communication with assistants,ask past players

[starmvp]

Section seedings for Section 2AA will be very tough for spots 4-6.... It is tough to put Chanhassen at #4 when their late season tie and early season win against AHA is all they have. The rest of their schedule is terrible, two games against Dodge County? As for Jefferson and AHA. Jefferson gets their first big win of the season, but they are still in the shadow of all their other losses. You can almost put AHA in the same boat as Jefferson, except when you look at their past games against top teams they played Edina well and should have beaten EP. The conference ties and losses hurt them though. From what I've seen it should be the same as Zamman's rankings..

[The Best in the Bizz3]

Kennedy @ Edina
Shakopee @ Burnsville
Holy Angels @ Jefferson
Chanhassen @ Prior Lake


Edina clearly has the top seed locked up
Burnsville needs to prove from here on out that they deserve two my dismantling their next couple opponents
Jefferson needs to win out and play BSM close
PL needs to lose to JHS and Eagan (it is very possible, they have been a rollercoaster all year)
Chanhassen has the edge on AHA and will win the conference
AHA is stuck with six, played a couple top teams well but will not win conference and they have some bad conference games in the books
Shakopee and Kennedy close it out

[starmvp]

Kennedy @ Edina
Shakopee @ Burnsville
Holy Angels @ Jefferson
Chanhassen @ Prior Lake


Edina clearly has the top seed locked up
Burnsville needs to prove from here on out that they deserve two my dismantling their next couple opponents
Jefferson needs to win out and play BSM close
PL needs to lose to JHS and Eagan (it is very possible, they have been a rollercoaster all year)
Chanhassen has the edge on AHA and will win the conference
AHA is stuck with six, played a couple top teams well but will not win conference and they have some bad conference games in the books
Shakopee and Kennedy close it out

Are you pushing a Jefferson #3 seed??

[Edgy]

Section seedings for Section 2AA will be very tough for spots 4-6.... It is tough to put Chanhassen at #4 when their late season tie and early season win against AHA is all they have. The rest of their schedule is terrible, two games against Dodge County? As for Jefferson and AHA. Jefferson gets their first big win of the season, but they are still in the shadow of all their other losses. You can almost put AHA in the same boat as Jefferson, except when you look at their past games against top teams they played Edina well and should have beaten EP. The conference ties and losses hurt them though. From what I've seen it should be the same as Zamman's rankings..

Should be interesting - although AHA will be #6 IMO. They do not have a quality win either.. Jefferson or Chan will get the #4 and the other the #5 - of course if PL tanks down the stretch it could cloud things a little - just my opinion.

[starmvp]

Section seedings for Section 2AA will be very tough for spots 4-6.... It is tough to put Chanhassen at #4 when their late season tie and early season win against AHA is all they have. The rest of their schedule is terrible, two games against Dodge County? As for Jefferson and AHA. Jefferson gets their first big win of the season, but they are still in the shadow of all their other losses. You can almost put AHA in the same boat as Jefferson, except when you look at their past games against top teams they played Edina well and should have beaten EP. The conference ties and losses hurt them though. From what I've seen it should be the same as Zamman's rankings..

Should be interesting - although AHA will be #6 IMO. They do not have a quality win either.. Jefferson or Chan will get the #4 and the other the #5 - of course if PL tanks down the stretch it could cloud things a little - just my opinion.

Besides Chanhassen's early season win against Holy Angels, what "quality" wins do they have?

[The Best in the Bizz3]

Kennedy @ Edina
Shakopee @ Burnsville
Holy Angels @ Jefferson
Chanhassen @ Prior Lake


Edina clearly has the top seed locked up
Burnsville needs to prove from here on out that they deserve two my dismantling their next couple opponents
Jefferson needs to win out and play BSM close
PL needs to lose to JHS and Eagan (it is very possible, they have been a rollercoaster all year)
Chanhassen has the edge on AHA and will win the conference
AHA is stuck with six, played a couple top teams well but will not win conference and they have some bad conference games in the books
Shakopee and Kennedy close it out

Are you pushing a Jefferson #3 seed??

yes, wouldn't a jags stars match-up be great?

[starmvp]

Kennedy @ Edina
Shakopee @ Burnsville
Holy Angels @ Jefferson
Chanhassen @ Prior Lake


Edina clearly has the top seed locked up
Burnsville needs to prove from here on out that they deserve two my dismantling their next couple opponents
Jefferson needs to win out and play BSM close
PL needs to lose to JHS and Eagan (it is very possible, they have been a rollercoaster all year)
Chanhassen has the edge on AHA and will win the conference
AHA is stuck with six, played a couple top teams well but will not win conference and they have some bad conference games in the books
Shakopee and Kennedy close it out

Are you pushing a Jefferson #3 seed??

yes, wouldn't a jags stars match-up be great?

It would be a great game not just because of the similarity of the teams but also the history. This will only happen if Jefferson wins out and Prior Lake loses the rest of their big games.

[Edgy]

Section seedings for Section 2AA will be very tough for spots 4-6.... It is tough to put Chanhassen at #4 when their late season tie and early season win against AHA is all they have. The rest of their schedule is terrible, two games against Dodge County? As for Jefferson and AHA. Jefferson gets their first big win of the season, but they are still in the shadow of all their other losses. You can almost put AHA in the same boat as Jefferson, except when you look at their past games against top teams they played Edina well and should have beaten EP. The conference ties and losses hurt them though. From what I've seen it should be the same as Zamman's rankings..

Should be interesting - although AHA will be #6 IMO. They do not have a quality win either.. Jefferson or Chan will get the #4 and the other the #5 - of course if PL tanks down the stretch it could cloud things a little - just my opinion.

Besides Chanhassen's early season win against Holy Angels, what "quality" wins do they have?

Looking at both teams records - Both Chan and AHA beat Farmington, Northfield, Chaska and Shako. Both teams beat New Prague, however AHA recently lost to them as well. Chan, as you know beat AHa as well as tied them. Chan beat Red Wing and AHA tied them - pretty clear that AHA will be below Chan - most likely in the #6 spot. AHA has always used the fact they won the conference in previous seedings, however they can't use that this year either.

[starmvp]

Should be interesting - although AHA will be #6 IMO. They do not have a quality win either.. Jefferson or Chan will get the #4 and the other the #5 - of course if PL tanks down the stretch it could cloud things a little - just my opinion.

Besides Chanhassen's early season win against Holy Angels, what "quality" wins do they have?

Looking at both teams records - Both Chan and AHA beat Farmington, Northfield, Chaska and Shako. Both teams beat New Prague, however AHA recently lost to them as well. Chan, as you know beat AHa as well as tied them. Chan beat Red Wing and AHA tied them - pretty clear that AHA will be below Chan - most likely in the #6 spot. AHA has always used the fact they won the conference in previous seedings, however they can't use that this year either.

But wait... Chanhassen still has to play New Prague again! And both teams still need to play Red Wing. Seedings still not set in stone between these two until those games are played! I think it's fair to say the Chanhassen's win early in the season over AHA can be thrown out just like AHA's win over Burnsville was thrown out last year

[Edgy]

Star - It is true they have to finish the season and anything can happen and for those 2 teams - the games you mention will be big for those teams. Based on what has transpired this season, I do not think much will change and IMO AHA is "likely" the #6 seed - however stranger things have happened...

[bubblehockey27]

How I see 2AA unfolding...pretty similar to Zamman.

1. Edina
2. Burnsville
3. Prior Lake
4. Chanhassen
5. AHA
6. Jefferson
7. Shakopee
8. Kennedy

[auld_skool]

I admit I know nothing about this. That said, wouldn't Jefferson be higher than AHA if only because of the win over Burnsville? Looking at their schedule AHA hasn't beat anyone of that caliber. Just asking.

[bubblehockey27]

I admit I know nothing about this. That said, wouldn't Jefferson be higher than AHA if only because of the win over Burnsville? Looking at their schedule AHA hasn't beat anyone of that caliber. Just asking.

From my understanding, there are three major contributors that factor into seedings...W/L, SOS, and head to head play.

Since AHA and Jefferson haven't played head to head, I guess you can look at similar opponents, but that probably won't give you the best indication of where a team should be seeded. Both teams have a fairly good SOS, and AHA has one more win than Jefferson.

Both teams have a few "easy" games left on the schedule, so it'll be interesting to see who ends up with the better record. It'll be interesting to see how they actually get seeded...

Hope that was somewhat insightful. If anyone knows more about seedings, feel free to add.

[Zamman]

One more item...AHA played the best teams in the state in the first half of their season. They are playing a lot better than they had...not much more., but hey...

I do not do the seedings so we will need to wait and see.

[Edgy]

All the coaches of the section get together for their respective Sections seeding - so for 2AA all the 2AA head coaches meet and make their case for a certain seeding. Everything will come into play - certain coaches will be making a case for a higher number in an attempt to get past the first round, while other coaches may be trying to make sure someone doesn't get to high a seeding, etc. Turns out to be very political and usually heated - W/L certainly comes into play - conference play can come into it, however this year AHA will stay away from that. SOS comes into play but only if you have some good wins to offset the good losses (if there is such a thing). Karl has been fairly accurate in his predictions in the past....

[auld_skool]

Thanks all. I appreciate the education.