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youngbloodjr3
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Osseo/Maple Grove

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Any thoughts on the caliber of this team this year? Usually a contender but not sure on this year.
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Re: Osseo/Maple Grove

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youngbloodjr3 wrote:Any thoughts on the caliber of this team this year? Usually a contender but not sure on this year.
They have a great Supermite II team but I doubt that is the level you are interested in. Narrow it down for us.
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Post by mitchrapp »

Who can tell me why they have to combine and end up with 8 Bantam teams? How many PeeWee? They had 10 last year.
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mitchrapp wrote:Who can tell me why they have to combine and end up with 8 Bantam teams? How many PeeWee? They had 10 last year.
Well, it was obviously so they could craft those nifty "combined" sweaters, that feature colors from both MG and Osseo. They are the most gawd-awful things ever created. What color blind fools thought they looked nice? :roll:
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mitchrapp wrote:Who can tell me why they have to combine and end up with 8 Bantam teams? How many PeeWee? They had 10 last year.
You know the answer to that!

Why to make it to state of course! Maple grove had been bounced from the region tourney every year and never made it to state, a shame for a organization that big, so we combine with another group of kids and our team dramatically improves. And don't give me the it is only a couple of guys crap. Take any team in the state drop off the worst 3 guys on the team and add the best three from another... waalaa instant powerhouse. It is just like the Jefferson kennedy ... Jagels! Do what you gotta do, the rest of us dogs will just stay with one association and keep winning titles!

10 ??? Osseo / Maple Grove Croriels????? I think Not
09 Wayzata
08 EP
07 EP
06 Centennial
05 Edina
04 Moorhead
etc etc etc......
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Post by mghockey18 »

OMG's Bantam A Hockey Team..Number of Osseo players this year - 0
Number of players last year - 1

Get your facts straight BIG guy.
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Post by EnjoyTheShow »

How is the Bantam A team doing. Do they now have a parent coach, as Flemming is no longer around.
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From what I have been told, it is not a parent coaching. I know he used to coach Osseo's Bantam A team before Flemming. I'm not sure on the name though. It is slipping my mind.
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Post by InigoMontoya »

OMG's Bantam A Hockey Team...Number of Osseo head coaches this year - 1


I'm not seeing the benefits to Osseo kids in this merger. Were they so low in numbers, financing, ice availability, etc. that they were going to have to call it quits if they didn't get swallowed up by MG? Were they getting killed so badly in district play at the A level that those kids decided they'd rather play on an orange or black B team? It'll be interesting to see how the high school competes with only 1 kid on the varsity with any bantam A experience - I'm assuming of the 5 sophomores on the roster, one of them was an A last year. Maybe it'll prove that winning a ton of B games is just what they need to succeed at the next level.
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EnjoyTheShow wrote:How is the Bantam A team doing. Do they now have a parent coach, as Flemming is no longer around.
I caught the end of the OMG-Roseau game down in EP and OMG looked very strong. Although the game was tight, the entire 3rd period was played in the Roseau end. Based on the OMGHA web site, they went 4-1 in the EP Tourney and are 16-2 overall. Looks to me like they have a strong squad.

It's interesting watching this squad wear the Orange and Black of Osseo with not one Osseo kid. That's assuming the earlier post is accurate.
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I'm not seeing the benefits to Osseo kids in this merger. Were they so low in numbers, financing, ice availability, etc. that they were going to have to call it quits if they didn't get swallowed up by MG? Were they getting killed so badly in district play at the A level that those kids decided they'd rather play on an orange or black B team? It'll be interesting to see how the high school competes with only 1 kid on the varsity with any bantam A experience - I'm assuming of the 5 sophomores on the roster, one of them was an A last year. Maybe it'll prove that winning a ton of B games is just what they need to succeed at the next level.
They should have merged with North Metro. No history, but it would have improved their association and more Osseo kids would have gotten the bantam "A" experience. Prior to the merger, Osseo would go with an "A" team and a b2 team, which highlights the drop-off in talent. North metro is doing the same thing this year at some levels. Combining Osseo and NM would place more kids at the right level than they are now.
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The Bantam "A" Coaches name is Tom Adolph. I don't know much about him, though I've heard the kids like him.

Maple Grove did not want this merger with Osseo, MG was doing just fine on it's own, and the knowledgable people knew their numbers were growing and a bunch of talented/deep teams were coming. Jake Fleming, a high ranking board member close to Jake, and Osseo parents wanted this because they thought it would give them more success. It is hurting Osseo hockey big time! I hate to say it but it looks like Osseo will have to combine with someone at the HS level within 2-3 years.

Last years OMG Bantam "A" team had 1 Osseo player: Aaron Dolby is now at Osseo HS. This years OMG Bantam "A" team has 1 Osseo player: That 1 player Jake Abernathy has already told everyone he is going to MG.

I've seen this team play a few times this year, they are very good but not dominant. This is a MAPLE GROVE team that is doing well with only 4 returning Bantam "A" players from last year. Wonder what they could do with one of the best Bantam players in the state if Taylor Cammaratta were not at Shattuck.

On a side note: Seems Fleming's influence was over rated as OMG is doing just fine with a new team, and I don't see ER even in the top 20 rankings.........................
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Merger made NO sense.

OMG had one Bantam A and only one BB1 and 3 BB2 and 3 Bantam C teams last year.

THe BB2's finished 1-2-3 in a 16 team tournament as they had many Pee Wee A players from the previous year playing BB2 because they had only two teams above.

My sons team lost 12-0, 9-0, 11-1, and numerous other scores last year to them (we played them 9 times in District Three last year). We didn't even have a C team (our boards mistake).

Osseo, go back on your own - Or you will end up like North Metro, with a very watered down HS team. Keep your own identity.
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Post by Chuck Norris Fan »

Guru20 wrote:

On a side note: Seems Fleming's influence was over rated as OMG is doing just fine with a new team, and I don't see ER even in the top 20 rankings.........................
Not sure that is a fair statement. While I agree that they are doing very well without him, ER lost 4 guys to HS and was not projected to be as good as OMG in the first place.
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Post by headsup »

Typing this as CNF's post came up... agreed:

Not sure I would be so quick to assign ownership to the success (or lack of) ER and OMG. Both coaches are very good, but each inherited very different rosters and are working in very different environments (HS recruiting 2nd year players).

I would give a lot of credit to both for working through some tough transitions (out of their control) this year.
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Also... don't be surprised if you start seeing bantams migrating from MG to Osseo HS. Two very different hockey cultures that are attracting very different players / families. Numbers will go up beginning with the '10-'11 season.
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headsup wrote:Also... don't be surprised if you start seeing bantams migrating from MG to Osseo HS. Two very different hockey cultures that are attracting very different players / families. Numbers will go up beginning with the '10-'11 season.
This is interesting. Headsup, I have to believe there is more to your observation than just a general migration. Why would a Maple Grove player migrate to a floundering HS program? It can't be as simple as a chance to make the team and more ice time...kids tend to start bleeding school colors very early. The schools are 10 minutes apart, how can culture be that dramatically different?
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Post by headsup »

The answer (only in my opinion) lies within your question. The schools are in fact only 5 minutes apart. Kids attend school and play together through junior high. Many grow up playing in both facilities and witnessing just as many Osseo games as MG games (especially on sponsored jersey nights)... sometimes thinking they hate the opponent - or like them just to be the 'rebel'.

As in any association, cultures (call them clicks or groups) and late bloomers take shape from squirts to bantams.

All I'm saying is this... with a program the size of OMG, kids will look forward to playing with or against familliar faces. I don't know that they truly bleed a schools color until that second year of bantams when they start making plans for the jump to HS. We all know it's not out of character for a teenager to chose the 'rebelious' decision.

We'll see what happens, but the climate is prime.
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Post by youngbloodjr3 »

This post was for Bantam A
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Post by gretzguy »

headsup wrote:Also... don't be surprised if you start seeing bantams migrating from MG to Osseo HS. Two very different hockey cultures that are attracting very different players / families. Numbers will go up beginning with the '10-'11 season.
About the only time this happens is a 'B' player, where this is the only way they'd have any chance to play high school. Your speculation about '10-'11 coincides exactly with when they really start to run out of their own kids.


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Post by observer »

OMG has some very good B players. Several would be A in a lot of places.
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