Goalie Pad Rule for 09-10 Season

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goalieguy123
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Goalie Pad Rule for 09-10 Season

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Is the 12 inch pad rule in affect this coming season (09-10) or the 10-11 season?

Thank you!
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Re: Goalie Pad Rule for 09-10 Season

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goalieguy123 wrote:Is the 12 inch pad rule in affect this coming season (09-10) or the 10-11 season?

Thank you!
My understanding is that as of January 1, 2010, you cannot play USA Hockey with a 12" pad. Too bad USA Hockey didn't make it to the end of the season. May cause some players to have to switch pads mid-season.

12" pads can still be used in beer leagues and non-sanctioned usa hockey events.
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Re: Goalie Pad Rule for 09-10 Season

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SWPrez wrote:
goalieguy123 wrote:Is the 12 inch pad rule in affect this coming season (09-10) or the 10-11 season?

Thank you!
My understanding is that as of January 1, 2010, you cannot play USA Hockey with a 12" pad. Too bad USA Hockey didn't make it to the end of the season. May cause some players to have to switch pads mid-season.

12" pads can still be used in beer leagues and non-sanctioned usa hockey events.

Likewise for the 48" circumfrence catcher (of which there are a lot out there). In both cases, it will be interesting to see if refs start pulling out tape measures on the ice...?
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Post by thorhockey »

Better confirm with the mshsl. The last i heard the rule has been made but wont be enforced until 2012 to give manufacturers time to catch up.
here is craig perrys (mshsl assoc. director)quote
"The rule has been changed but it will not be implemented until 2012. The rule reduces the size of acceptable goalie gloves and pads to match the dimensions set by the manufacturing companies."
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Post by really? »

thorhockey wrote:Better confirm with the mshsl. The last i heard the rule has been made but wont be enforced until 2012 to give manufacturers time to catch up.
here is craig perrys (mshsl assoc. director)quote
"The rule has been changed but it will not be implemented until 2012. The rule reduces the size of acceptable goalie gloves and pads to match the dimensions set by the manufacturing companies."
That is interesting stuff! Does anyone have any more info.? What about assoc. hockey - they generally use USA-hockey rules, right?
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really? wrote:
thorhockey wrote:Better confirm with the mshsl. The last i heard the rule has been made but wont be enforced until 2012 to give manufacturers time to catch up.
here is craig perrys (mshsl assoc. director)quote
"The rule has been changed but it will not be implemented until 2012. The rule reduces the size of acceptable goalie gloves and pads to match the dimensions set by the manufacturing companies."
That is interesting stuff! Does anyone have any more info.? What about assoc. hockey - they generally use USA-hockey rules, right?
I ran the question by the head ref. for MN hockey. His response was:

"Steve Tatro wrote:"

> "New goalkeeper equipment standards are to
>
> be applied starting with the 2009-10 season.
>
> Start of the season, not mid-season!"

I'm still foggy on who sets the rules for what... At the very least, this must apply to association hockey - I'm awaiting his response for clarification on the MSHSL...
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Post by RushnCircles »

according to the "goalie guys" at Daves in Fridley, the rules go into affect this upcoming high school hockey season. If that turns out not to be the case, then I am thinking the "goalies guys" at Daves are very good salesmen.

p.s. the guys at spikes will reduce the size of your oversized pads for $250.00
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Post by gmom29 »

RushnCircles wrote:according to the "goalie guys" at Daves in Fridley, the rules go into affect this upcoming high school hockey season. If that turns out not to be the case, then I am thinking the "goalies guys" at Daves are very good salesmen.

p.s. the guys at spikes will reduce the size of your oversized pads for $250.00
Georges Shoe and skate repair in St paul will do them also for about the same I believe.
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Post by woodley »

Our HS coach checked w/ MSHSL and there has been no HS rule change regarding goalie equipment. It goes into effect for youth hockey but not HS.
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Post by hockeydad »

MSHSL rules are not necesarilly the same as USA Hockey or Minnesota Hockey rules.
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Post by suckholer »

you would think that MSHSL will accept the changes when Pro, college and youth hockey is accepting the changes.

According to Stauber's Goalcrease everyone is making the change this year.
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Post by hockeydad »

The MSHSL follows National High School Federation rules. Usually when the federation has a rule change in any sport regarding uniforms or equipment, the federation allows a couple of years to phase in the rule because of the cost of new equipment. Old equipment might be grandfathered in for a year or two, but new equipment will likely need to follow the new guidelines.

Some schools own goalie equipment and to buy a couple new sets of pads for goalies to use is an added cost to the schools that in this economy they might not be able to afford.
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Post by BodyShots »

hockeydad wrote:The MSHSL follows National High School Federation rules. Usually when the federation has a rule change in any sport regarding uniforms or equipment, the federation allows a couple of years to phase in the rule because of the cost of new equipment. Old equipment might be grandfathered in for a year or two, but new equipment will likely need to follow the new guidelines.

Some schools own goalie equipment and to buy a couple new sets of pads for goalies to use is an added cost to the schools that in this economy they might not be able to afford.
Do schools even provide equipment any more? If I call, my son got breezers, gloves, and a helmet. I think our goalies had their own pads and gloves.
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BodyShots wrote:
hockeydad wrote:The MSHSL follows National High School Federation rules. Usually when the federation has a rule change in any sport regarding uniforms or equipment, the federation allows a couple of years to phase in the rule because of the cost of new equipment. Old equipment might be grandfathered in for a year or two, but new equipment will likely need to follow the new guidelines.

Some schools own goalie equipment and to buy a couple new sets of pads for goalies to use is an added cost to the schools that in this economy they might not be able to afford.
Do schools even provide equipment any more? If I call, my son got breezers, gloves, and a helmet. I think our goalies had their own pads and gloves.
Every school is different. Our school owned three sets of pads and bought new pads because none of them fit my son when he was a junior in 03-04 (he was 6-4). I know I saw those same pads - now five years old - being used by one of the HS goalies last year.
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Post by midwesthockeyscout »

To the best of my knowledge, if a goalie ordered brand new pads last year, all the manufacturers were making all pads, gloves and blockers NHL spec size. If the pads are a couple years old, it's in the player's or association's best interest to replace them now.
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Nation Federation 09-10

Post by ref101 »

hockeydad wrote:The MSHSL follows National High School Federation rules. Usually when the federation has a rule change in any sport regarding uniforms or equipment, the federation allows a couple of years to phase in the rule because of the cost of new equipment. Old equipment might be grandfathered in for a year or two, but new equipment will likely need to follow the new guidelines.

Some schools own goalie equipment and to buy a couple new sets of pads for goalies to use is an added cost to the schools that in this economy they might not be able to afford.

Faceoff Changes Highlight Ice Hockey Rules Revisions for 2009-10
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: John Gillis

INDIANAPOLIS, IN (May 28, 2009) - In an effort to simplify the game for coaches, players and officials, four rules addressing faceoffs were among nine changes approved by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Ice Hockey Rules Committee at its April 26-27 meeting in Indianapolis. The rules changes subsequently were approved by the NFHS Board of Directors.

Rule 6-12-1 now begins with the sentence "All faceoffs must be conducted on one of the nine (9) faceoff spots located on the rink."

Under Rule 6-12 as previously written, faceoffs could have occurred "...at many locations on the ice 15 feet from the boards, along an imaginary line between the end zone faceoff spots."

"The committee felt that this revision will help simplify the game for everyone," said Rick Majerus, chairperson of the NFHS Ice Hockey Rules Committee. "By making this change, the rule is now very specific regarding where faceoffs can occur."

The committee felt that penalties for puck-handling should be consistent with those for high-sticking. As such, the penalties for Rules 6-17-1 and 6-17-3 have been changed from "Faceoff" to "Faceoff at the defensive zone faceoff spot of the offending team."

"The former puck-handling penalties were ‘Faceoff,' and the high-sticking penalties are ‘Faceoff at the defensive zone faceoff spot of the offending team,'" Majerus said. "Since the committee felt the penalties for both offenses should be the same, the penalties in Rules 6-17-1 and 6-17-3 (puck-handling) are now the same as those in Rule 6-18, which deals with high-sticking."

In an effort to cut down penalties and to make the high school rules consistent with those of the other national governing bodies, the committee changed the faceoff location after a penalty is assessed to take place at the defensive zone faceoff spot of the offending team. All such references to this in Rule 6-12 (Faceoffs) have been rewritten to reflect this revision.

As a means of helping readers more easily locate rules pertaining to minor penalties that involve team captains, the copy in Rule 2-2-6 has been replicated in Rule 4-2-8.

Rule 2-2 addresses "Team Captains" and Rule 4-2 addresses "Minor Penalties." Since Rule 2-2-6 ("When rules indicate ‘captain's choice of players' for serving the penalty, the captain must select a player who was on the ice when the infraction occurred.") is a rule that addresses both minor penalties and team captains, it is now replicated in the "Minor Penalties" section. In that manner, readers will now find it referenced in both locations within the rules book.

Rule 4-3-2 was revised to replace the penalty "A player (captain's choice of players)" with "A player and an additional player."

"Prior to last year, ‘captain's choice' meant any player," Majerus said. "Last year's revision was a blanket change that stipulated that any place the rules book says ‘captain's choice,' the player had to come from the ice. In this particular situation, the player does not need to come from the ice. As such, it should not read ‘captain's choice of players.'"

In an effort to make NFHS rules consistent with other national governing bodies' and to conform with manufacturers' current dimensions, the measurements of the goalkeeper's leg pads, goalkeeper's gloves and goalkeeper's catching glove have been downsized.

According to Rule 3-3-2, the goalkeeper's leg pads currently "... shall not be wider than 12 inches (30.48 cm) each." The new rule states "... shall not be wider than 11 inches (27.94 cm) each, nor longer than 38 inches (96.52 cm)."

Rule 3-3-3 currently stipulates that "Protective padding attached to the back or forming a part of the goalkeeper's gloves shall not exceed 9 inches (22.86 cm) in width at any point, nor shall it exceed 17 inches (43.17 cm) in length. Protective padding attached to the back or forming part of the goalkeeper's catching glove shall not exceed 9 inches (22.86 cm) in width at any point, nor shall it exceed 17 inches (43.17 cm) in length."

The revised rule now stipulates that the width of the goalkeeper's blocking glove shall not exceed 8 inches (20.32 cm), nor shall it exceed 15 inches (38.1 cm) in length. The rule further stipulates that the catching glove shall have a maximum circumference of 45 inches (114.3 cm), and the wrist cuff shall not exceed 4 inches (10.16 cm) in width, nor more than 8 inches (20.32 cm) in height.


The words "with face masks" were added to Rule 3-4-8 so that it now reads "All players are required to wear helmets with face masks while in the players' or penalty box."

This rule was revised at a previous rules committee meeting. The aforementioned verbiage regarding face masks (while possibly implied or understood) was inadvertently left out at that time. This revision will now specifically state that those helmets will have face masks.

Ice hockey is played by 36,667 boys in 1,564 high schools nationwide, according to the NFHS High School Athletics Participation Survey. Additionally, 8,621 girls in 534 high schools nationwide participate in ice hockey.
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