Vick

The Only Forum for Non-Hockey Topics

Moderators: Mitch Hawker, east hockey, karl(east)

east hockey
Site Admin
Posts: 7428
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 8:33 pm
Location: Proctor, MN

Post by east hockey »

Can't Never Tried wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:Okay, so you think we should start making dog farms and mass producing dog meat?
No, but I think I know why Lake Superior is down...it's because the Black Hole of ignorance in Duluth is sucking all the water out of it.... :(

Later Bong!

8)
Hey, wait a minute....I happen to live in Duluth. Of course, I was born here, so I'm special. Image

Lee
PageStat Guy on Bluesky
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

How is that harsh? That's the kind of penalty he needs. While he's sitting in prison he'll be getting way more interest on the money to has than anyone on here makes in a year probably. I'm sure he'll be fine.

tomASS, that's the exception, not the rule. A person going out to hurt for sport is different than someone going to hurt so people can live.
Neutron 14
Posts: 5339
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:48 pm

Post by Neutron 14 »

HShockeywatcher wrote: tomASS, that's the exception, not the rule. A person going out to hurt for sport is different than someone going to hurt so people can live.
:?: :-k :?:
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

Generally speaking people aren't hunting because they need the meat from the animal to survive.

I guess I'd be curious to learn more about where it happens as it seems an expensive way to get by, but if that's happening, then that's fine.
Neutron 14
Posts: 5339
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:48 pm

Post by Neutron 14 »

HShockeywatcher wrote: then that's fine.
The free world will be thrilled that you gave it your ok!
HShockeywatcher wrote:tomASS, there's a huge difference between hunting for survival and hunting for sport.
But hunting and dogfighting are similar? Add worlds biggest hypocrite to your many titles.
tomASS
Posts: 2512
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Chaska

Post by tomASS »

Neutron 14 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: then that's fine.
The free world will be thrilled that you gave it your ok!
HShockeywatcher wrote:tomASS, there's a huge difference between hunting for survival and hunting for sport.
But hunting and dogfighting are similar? Add worlds biggest hypocrite to your many titles.
=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Check and Mate
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

You can't just say someone's a hypocrite and it makes it so.

In my book, hunting for sport and dogfighting are similar in that an animal that didn't have to die dies.
If you are doing something that is possibly otherwise "wrong" for the purpose of survival, such as killing animals, that is fine.

There is a huge line between something for sport and for survival. And I'm still curious to hear about these people who count on hunting for their survival.
Can't Never Tried
Posts: 4345
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:55 pm

Post by Can't Never Tried »

HShockeywatcher wrote:You can't just say someone's a hypocrite and it makes it so.
Yeah Neutron.... others would have to agree with you :D

So I agree! But I doubt anyone else will though :roll:

Oh and Lee..I mean Nanny :lol: :lol:
Duluth is not the little village that BIAFP was referring to now is it?? :wink:
If so send out a posse, not a search team, and feel free to use dogs! :shock:

8)
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

I'm just curious if anyone's going to admit they were wrong about what to do with Vick's suspension, probably not...
Can't Never Tried
Posts: 4345
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:55 pm

Post by Can't Never Tried »

HShockeywatcher wrote:I'm just curious
So was George...and look what happened :shock:


Image

8)
power92
Posts: 439
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:48 pm

Post by power92 »

HShockeywatcher wrote: There is a huge line between something for sport and for survival. And I'm still curious to hear about these people who count on hunting for their survival.
The Kombai Tribe in New Papua. :wink:
....Can't thank you enough for the time.
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

That's not in the US and that is people that are personally hunting for the food and getting it for their survival, not "rural families of the US." Nice try though.
Govs93
Posts: 4367
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:57 am
Location: Formerly Eastside - now Wayzata area

Post by Govs93 »

power92 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: There is a huge line between something for sport and for survival. And I'm still curious to hear about these people who count on hunting for their survival.
The Kombai Tribe in New Papua. :wink:
Image
Image
tomASS
Posts: 2512
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Chaska

Post by tomASS »

HShockeywatcher wrote:That's not in the US and that is people that are personally hunting for the food and getting it for their survival, not "rural families of the US." Nice try though.
Every been to rural WV? rural KY and TN, ME, - I don't think you have seen rural poverty if you don't think many of these locations have families that depend upon hunting and trapping to feed the families.

pull you head out of your.......................arse
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

That quote was in response to power's comment.

I am curious because I don't know about it, not because I don't think it exists. And I've already said that's fine, what's with the attitude?

Not sure why you're arguing with me when I'm agreeing with you.
BIAFP
Posts: 1825
Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:44 pm

Post by BIAFP »

HShockeywatcher wrote:That quote was in response to power's comment.

I am curious because I don't know about it, not because I don't think it exists. And I've already said that's fine, what's with the attitude?

Not sure why you're arguing with me when I'm agreeing with you.
This clown sounds like a teapot when he goes outside in the wind :roll:
goldy313
Posts: 3949
Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2002 11:56 am

Post by goldy313 »

I could go to the store and buy a couple pounds of ground chuck or I could put a couple pounds of venison in my chilli, either way meat is going in. I can and do hunt for some of the food I eat, I don't need to but the game I cook takes the place of meat I would have boughten and eaten anyway. Do I need to hunt to survive, no, but I do need to eat, I am an ominvore so either way something had to die to feed me.

Equating torturing animals to hunting is standard PETA thinking. By any standard torturing animals is illegal, Hormel would get fined, farmers get their livestock taken away and fined, etc.
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

Either way an animal is dying, like you said. But then you had to pull the legal card. I'm not personally involved, but I've heard stories from people who have slaughtered animals for packing and what not. And we all know how chickens, cows for milk, and many other animals are treated and the hormones that are pumped into them. If you don't call that torture, what do you call it?

We're not equating them by any means. We've been over this. If we were we wouldn't compare them, we'd just say that they're the same. I'm not saying what Vick did is okay, I'm saying hunting is wrong, so if you come back to me and say "well, what Vick did is wrong" that doesn't solve anything.

Yes, what he did is wrong, why is hunting not?

Not sure what it's from: "If a cannibal used a knife and fork, would you call that civilized?"
tomASS
Posts: 2512
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Chaska

Post by tomASS »

typically when parties can not agree - they shoot ( :lol: )for clarity of positions.

I don't think you achieved that goal either.

And who is this "we" you keep refering to? :-s


to answer your private message to me - ever see a single-wide trailer in the mountains of Maine with burlap as the front door, no running water or an outhouse and the kids running around in no shoes during the summer while what they wear are in tatters and dirty?

Go to your church and see if they have a summer mission trip to one of the many rural poverty areas of our country. Then go and try your "hunting is bad" argument on them.
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

Not sure why you continue since that's been asked and answered. Based on what I've said, why would hunting be bad for them? They are hunting for their very survival. If you want to continue to repeat the same thing over and over, you'll get the same answer over and over.

The "we" I'm referring to is those who understand the definitions of words in the English language. Huge difference between that of compare and equate.
tomASS
Posts: 2512
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Chaska

Post by tomASS »

HShockeywatcher wrote:Not sure why you continue since that's been asked and answered. Based on what I've said, why would hunting be bad for them? They are hunting for their very survival. If you want to continue to repeat the same thing over and over, you'll get the same answer over and over.

The "we" I'm referring to is those who understand the definitions of words in the English language. Huge difference between that of compare and equate.
Because these are your thoughts of clarity on your 8:10 post

"I'm saying hunting is wrong"

"Yes, what he did is wrong, why is hunting not?"

D-DEE-D #-o
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

Wow, it's like we're going backwards in the conversation. Boldface this quote too, "A person going out to hurt for sport is different than someone going to hurt so people can live." And then there's one from a few hours before that.

What I am saying is that hunting for sport is wrong. If you'd like me to insert "for sport" in with my last few posts, I can, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt to know that. My bad.
tomASS
Posts: 2512
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:18 pm
Location: Chaska

Post by tomASS »

HShockeywatcher wrote:Wow, it's like we're going backwards in the conversation. Boldface this quote too, "A person going out to hurt for sport is different than someone going to hurt so people can live." And then there's one from a few hours before that.

What I am saying is that hunting for sport is wrong. If you'd like me to insert "for sport" in with my last few posts, I can, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt to know that. My bad.

Dick Butkus was a person who liked to go out and HURT for sport.

Freudian slip? you've done this several times and the "r" is no where near the "n" on my keyboard.
Can't Never Tried
Posts: 4345
Joined: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:55 pm

Post by Can't Never Tried »

tomASS wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:Wow, it's like we're going backwards in the conversation. Boldface this quote too, "A person going out to hurt for sport is different than someone going to hurt so people can live." And then there's one from a few hours before that.

What I am saying is that hunting for sport is wrong. If you'd like me to insert "for sport" in with my last few posts, I can, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt to know that. My bad.

Dick Butkus was a person who liked to go out and HURT for sport.

Freudian slip? you've done this several times and the "r" is no where near the "n" on my keyboard.
tomAss........... here catch this, it's from Govs and Neut and me! :wink:

Image

8)
HShockeywatcher
Posts: 6848
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:21 pm

Post by HShockeywatcher »

Oh wow, I misspelled one word and you call me on it. That's awesome. But really nothing with any meat to it to come back at me.
Post Reply