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A Rankings for 1/28/24

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Class A Rankings Week #10 (1/28/2024)
Season long Class A resumes are starting to slot teams into spots strongly. The past week had Warroad looking great on the big stage and 5A’s Crusaders & Moose staying hot and here comes Hibbing. Check it out the rest and section rankings below:

1- Warroad (8A) (16-3-0)
Past Week Results: W 6-2 Roseau (HDMN)
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Bemidji, 2/2 @ #14 Thief River Falls
The Warriors won the big game this week vs their longtime rivals on Hockey Day Minnesota to put a great cap on an excellent week where their community and tradition was on full display. They were excellent hosts except on the ice to the Rams who they ran past for a very nice win. Now they get back to the real goal of getting back to state to try and win State Title #5 they currently are the states top team in Class A with their resume. Warroad can take a big step toward that goal of returning to state with a win over #14 TRF this week as they look to try and lock up the #1 seed Section 8A.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #2 Hawks, #4 EGF OT, #5 Maht, #6 Orono, #7 Delano, #14 TRF Key loss: #3 SCC OT

2- Hermantown (7A) (12-6-2)
Past Week Results: W 6-0 Superior (Wis.), L 0-3 St.Thomas Academy, L 2-3 OT Maple Grove
Upcoming Schedule: 2/1 @ #11 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton, 2/3 @ Moorhead
The Hawks had another tough week and they have now dropped 4 of their last 6 games. Again, like with many in the Top 10 teams in Class A this week, it's important to note that many of the losses are outside of Class A and their overall resume within A which I rely on to rank still has them firmly at #2 in the State. This week they won a game over Superior before dropping the weekend series being swept at home by STA and Maple Grove. They will look to lock up the #1 seed in 7A this week with a big match up with CEC and then will head outside Class A again for matchup at Moorhead
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #3 SCC, #4 EGF, #5 Maht, #7 Delano, #12 Hibbing, #13 Proctor OT Key loss: #1 Warroad

3- St. Cloud Cathedral (5A) (15-4-1)
Past Week Results: W 7-1 #15 Little Falls, W 4-2 #8 Northfield
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 vs #17 Northern Lakes, 2/1 vs Detroit Lakes
The Crusaders had one of the few impressive weeks within the Class A Top 10 as they were able to get a Section 5A rout over their rival #15 Little Falls and then took care of business vs #8 Northfield in “Friday Night Ice” to really cement their Class A Resume as a top three team in the State.. The Crusaders get a crazy amount of production out of one line and it works and now add in they have yet to be beaten with their starter in net and this team is looking more and more like a good bet to win the whole thing come March. Now they have two winnable games vs Northern Lake and Detroit Lakes this week.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #1 Warroad OT, #4 EGF, #6 Orono, #8 NFLD, #10 Alex, #11 CEC, #14 LF & #17 NL Key Losses: #2 Hawks & #7 Delano

4- East Grand Forks (8A) (13-6-1)
Past Week Results: W 3-4 OT Grand Forks Central, W 11-0 Crookston
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Moorhead, 2/1 vs Grand Forks Red River
The Greenwave started the week by dropping a game to Grand Forks Central in OT again which really isn't that bad considering GFC also owns a win over #1 Warroad this year and again is a team outside the Class A field. They then returned to Minnesota action and absolutely blasted 8A Crookston 11-0 to send a big note to all that they are really starting to fire on all cylinders and Section 8A needs to beware. This week they have two good tests that won't really impact these rankings too much with they take on Morrhead and then border rival Grand Forks Red River.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #5 Maht, #7 Delano, #14 TRF Key Losses: #1 Warroad OT, #2 Hawks, #3 SCC & #11 CEC

5- Mahtomedi (4A) (8-10-0)
Past Week Results: W 6-1 Chisago Lakes, L 1-9 Hill Murray
Upcoming Schedule: 1/29 vs Two Rivers, 2/1 vs St Thomas Academy, 2/3 @ Simley
The Zephyrs dipped their toe back into Class A and Section 4A action to start the week and they showed they are still the clear favorite to get back to State and defend their title when they took care of one of the top section contenders Chisago Lakes. However, they were blown out by Hill Murray at the end of the week which is a puzzling result, not because they lost but to get routed is very rare with this program, but again doesn't really play a huge role in the Class A Ranking. This coming week is a busy one with the important game being the Section 4A game vs Simley as the Zephyrs look to lock up the #1 seed for playoffs.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #6 Orono & #11 CEC Key Losses: #1 Warroad OT, #2 Hawks, #4 EGF & #7 Delano OT

6- Orono (2A) (13-6-0)
Past Week Results: L 2-3 St Cloud Public, W 5-2 Waconia
Upcoming Schedule: 2/1 @ Benilde St Margrets, 2/3 vs New Prague
The Spartans are a very banged up bunch and offensively they are not packing much of a punch with all the Top nine forwards that are missing. They are surviving for now as they try to get healthy. They had a loss and a win vs teams outside of Class A in St Cloud Public and Waconia this week. Again looking at the resume Orono has not beat anyone above them in the Top 5 and they have not lost to anyone below them in Class A including head to head wins over the #7, #8, #9 and #10 teams respectively to be a solid #6. More non Class A games this week with Benilde and New Prague on tap in Metro West Conference action.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #7 Delano, #8 NFLD, #9 Monti, #10 Alex, #15 LF, #18 SWC Key Losses #1 Warroad, #3 SCC & #5 Maht

7- Delano (2A) (12-7-1)
Past Week Results: W 10-0 Litchfield Dassel Cokato, L 4-5 Chaska, W 7-0 Mound Westonka
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Holy Family
The Tigers, like many in the middle of the Class A Top 10 this week, dropped a game outside of the Class A field which was not great but had no impact on the overall resume. Delano was able to win the two most important games of the week when they took down Section 2A foes LDC and Mound Westonka. Overall, their resume is very strong as they only have Class A losses to 4 of the top 6 teams in the state and also own great wins over the #3 and #5 teams in the state which give them the most argument of anyone in the lower ten to move up. This week a rematch with WCC rival Holy Family and a chance to sweep the Fire for the first time in forever.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #3 SCC & #5 Maht OT Key Losses: #1 Warroad, #2 Hawks, #4 EGF & #6 Orono

8- Northfield (1A) (13-2-2)
Past Week Results: W 7-0 Mankato East, L 2-4 #3 St Cloud Cathedral
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 vs Winona, 2/1 @ Mankato West, 2/3 vs Rochester Century/John Marshall
The Raiders started the week by doing what they normally do as they took care of a Big 9 Conference opponent with ease to start the week when they shutout Mankato East. However, they faltered in their big matchup vs St Cloud Cathedral at the end of the week as they dug a deep hole and were not able to dig out of it for their 2nd loss of the year. They are good fit at #8 looking at their Class A resume as Delano, who beat SCC, and Orono, who beat the Raiders head to head, sit right above them but they own the head to head win over red hot Monticello right below them. They should get back to racking up wins down south this week but the match up with Rochester Century/John Marshall at the end of the week looks like a good one.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #9 Monti & #12 Hibbing Key Losses: #3 SCC & #6 Orono

9- Monticello (5A) (16-2-0)
Past Week Results: 7-0 Providence Academy, W 3-1 Hutchinson
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Princeton, 2/2 vs Northern Edge
The Moose just kept continuing to win this week as they moved their win streak to 12 games in a row this week. Monticello put on an impressive display in their best all around win of the year when they routed a dangerous Providence Academy team to start the week. However, they then had troubles with a struggling Hutchinson team to end the week. The Class A resume has a whole bunch of wins but no real significant ones and with losses head to head to #6 Orono and #8 NFLD they will stay at #9 for now but you have to give them credit for just continuing to win. Looking at the week ahead they should continue the win streak this upcoming week.
Class A Resume: Key Win: #15 LF Key Losses: #6 Orono & #8 NFLD

10- Alexandria (6A) (8-8-1)
Past Week Results: W 6-0 Willmar
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Detroit Lakes, 2/1 @ Sauk Rapids, 2/3 vs Duluth Denfeld
The Cards were able to pick up a win in their only game of the week as they moved back to .500 on the year and remained unbeaten within Section 6A play with the shutout win over Willmar. Alexandria has played good hockey of late and is (6-3-0) within Class A play and they look like a good bet to return to State for the 3rd straight year. This week they have a chance to get on a roll as they have three winnable games on tap they will be the favorite on paper.
Class A Resume: Spilt #15 LF (Won 2nd meeting) Key Win: #17 NL Key Losses: #3 SCC & #6 Orono

11- Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (7A) (10-10-0)
Past Week Results: W 4-1 Rock Ridge, L 2-4 Bemidji
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Forest Lake, 2/1 vs #2 Hermantown, 2/3 @ Champlin Park
The Lumberjacks had another week vs teams that make it hard to rank them outside of the Class A field. The win vs Rock Ridge was a big one as the Wolverines had just beaten Proctor the week earlier and if you add in CEC’s head to head win over the Rails their resume to be seeded higher than Proctor in 7A and in these rankings is very strong. However, they couldn’t keep momentum as they built up a quick 2-0 lead over Bemidji that they let slip away on the road to lose at the end of the week. If you just look at the Class A Resume CEC is a Top 10 team and should be the #2 seed in 7A and if they could shock Hawks this week it would lock them in as the number 1 seed come section time.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #4 EFG, #12 Hibbing, #13 Proctor Key losses- #3 SCC & #5 Maht

12- Hibbing/Chisholm (7A) (15-7-0)
Past Week Result:W 3-0 Duluth Marshall, W 3-2 Superior, W 8-1 Crookston, W #14 Thief River Falls
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 vs International Falls
Hibbing had themselves their most impressive week of the year as they went and won all 4 games of a busy week and have now won 5 in a row to be red hot of late. They started the week with a very nice win over Duluth Marshall before winning games they should have vs Superior and Crookston. They capped off the week by beating a red hot #14 TRF and their resume has them at #12 with win over #14 Prowlers and they are the current #3 seed in 7A with a win over #13 Proctor, with AJ in net, as the feather in their cap. They will look to stay hot this week when they host 7A International Falls as their young guns are starting to round into varsity form just as expected.
Class A Resume: Key wins: #13 Proctor & #14 TRF Key Losses: #2 Hawks, #8 NFLD, #11 CEC & #15 LF

13- Proctor (7A) (14-6-0)
Past Week Results: W 9-1 Ely, W 3-0 Tartan
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Pine City, 2/1 @ Superior (Wis.)
The Rails were able to take care of business vs two lesser foes when they took out Ely and Tartan with ease this week to rebound from the loss to Rock Ridge last week nicely. Proctor has had a very solid year and looking at their head to head matchups and resume they seem to fit nicely here as they have losses to #11 CEC & #12 Hibbing above them but own wins over #15 Little Falls and #17 Northern Lakes below them. It's been a great year for the Rails who will look to win two more games next week as they will be favored in both on paper.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #15 LF, #17 NL, #18 SWC Key Losses: #2 Hawks OT, #11 CEC, #12 Hibbing, #24 Breck

14- Thief River Falls (8A) (12-7-1)
Past Week Results: W 6-2 Waseca, W 5-0 Greenway, L 3-5 #12 Hibbing/Chisholm
Upcoming Schedule: 2/2 vs #1 Warroad
The Prowlers started the week strong by taking down Waseca and Greenway to begin the week to extend their win streak to 5 games. However, they met their match when they took on the young guns from Hibbing who were able to jump out to a good sized lead and refused to allow the Prowlers to come back. They remain at #14 with the loss and their resume maybe shaky for that spot but their convincing head to head road win over #15 Little Falls lands them here for now. Only one game this week and it's a mighty challenge when the #1 Warroad Warriors come to town.
Class A Resume: Key Win: #15 LF Key Losses: #1 Warroad, #4 EGF, #12 Hibbing, #17 NL Key Tie: #3 SCC

15- Little Falls (5A) (13-7-0)
Past Week Results: L 1-7 #3 St Cloud Cathedral, W 6-5 OT #16 Luverne
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Fergus Falls
The Flyers had bumpy week as they went on the road to take on highly ranked St Cloud Cathedral in a Section 5A Final rematch and it was an ugly game as they were dominated by the Crusaders and in the third period were outshot 26-0 in the third period to show that there is significant gap between those two team currently. However, Little Falls, as they have done all year, was resilient and they were able to come back and finish the week winning a run and gun shootout over Luverne. In the game they jumped out twice only to lose big leads they found a way late in the overtime to win a big hockey game. Now they have just one game this week a winnable one vs Fergus Falls and the Class A Resume has them sitting solidly at #15.
Class A Resume: Spilt #10 Alex Key Win: #12 Hibbing, #16 Luverne, #17 NL Key Losses: #3 SCC, #6 Orono, #9 Monti, #13 Proctor, #14 TRF

16- Luverne (3A) (16-2-0)
Past Week Results: 9-2 Worthington, L 5-6 OT #15 Little Falls, W 5-4 Cambridge Isanti
Upcoming Schedule: 2/1 @ Marshall, 2/3 @ Morris Benson
Roll Cards Roll had one of their tougher weeks of the year as they first took down 3A Worthington with ease before venturing outside of the SW corner of the state. A trip to Central Minnesota showed that this Luverne team can play as they battled back to lose a heartbreaker in OT to #15 Little Falls before mounting an impressive 3rd period comeback to take down Cambridge-Isanti for a nice bounceback win. Now Luverne heads back to the Big South Conference where on paper they will be the favorite to win out with their remaining schedule.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #19 Dodge County #25 New Ulm X2 Key loss- #15 LF

17- Northern Lakes (6A) (11-5-0)
Past Week Results: Idle
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ #3 St Cloud Cathedral, 2/1 vs Morris/Benson
The Lightning were idle this week as teams around them beat teams they just recently lost to it dropped them down one spot in the ranking this week. Northern Lakes will hope that the week off allowed them to refocus and re-energize as the last two weeks have not been their best hockey. Now they open back up with highly ranked Cathedral on the road before hosting 6A Morris/Benson to end the week.
Class A Resume: Key wins: #14 TRF & #18 SWC Key Losses: #3 SCC, #10 Alex, #13 Proctor, #15 LF

18- Southwest Christian/Richfield (4A) (12-7-0)
Past Week Results: L 4-5 Mound Westonka, L 2-3 Providence Academy, W 6-3 St Paul Highland Park
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 vs Hutchinson, 2/2 vs Bloomington Kennedy
The Stars did not have a good week as they were upset in back to back games by Mound Westonka and Providence Academy. However, if they could only have one win on the week my guess is they would have picked it to be over St Paul Highland Park to keep them as the #2 seed in Section 4A. They have a resume to stay here for now as they own the head to head over #19 Dodge County, #21 MPLS & #24 Breck below them. However, they cant afford any more slips ups like this week and they will need to to win the 4A game vs Bloomington Kennedy this week to stay strong as the section’s #2 seed.
Class A Resume: Key Wins: #19 DC, #21 MPLS, #24 Breck Key Losses: #6 Orono, #7 Delano, #13 Proctor, #17 NL, #25 New Ulm

19- Dodge County (1A) (14-6-0)
Past Week Results: W 3-0 Mankato West
Upcoming Schedule: 2/3 vs Irondale
The Wildcats won their only game of the week and they have now won 9 of their last 10 games and continue to try and push toward the #2 seed in Section 1A. Dodge County was able to get a shutout over Mankato West this week which continues the impressive trend of good defensive hockey they have played since they dropped their worst game of the year to Lourdes. Now they have plenty of time to rest and recharge as they get ready to welcome Irondale at the end of this upcoming week.
Class A Resume: Key wins: #20 La Crescent Key Losses: #16 Luverne & #18 SWC

20- La Crescent-Hokah (1A) (17-1-0)
Past Week Results: W 13-2 Black River Falls (Wis.), W 13-0 Fairmont
Upcoming Schedule: 1/30 @ Viroqua (Wis.), 2/3 vs St Paul Academy
The Lancers just continue to put up video game-like numbers down in southeastern Minnesota. This week they took care of business thrashing both Black River Falls and Fairmont. They have been taking care of business and doing all they can do within their schedule and are now (17-1-0) on the year. This week they have two more games they look like the favorite on paper in with the game vs St Paul Academy being somewhat interesting.
Class A Resume: Key wins: 17 wins in 18 games Key Losses: #19 DC

Next Five Notable Teams-
Minneapolis (2A) (8-11-0)-
The 612 crew has now rattled off 4 wins in their last 5 games and this week they picked up the critical head to head win over Breck which locks them into the #3 seed for the Section 2A Playoffs. They are starting to heat up at the right time and they will be a very dangerous team come playoff time. Games with Blake and Irondale this week have Minneapolis looking to get back near (.500) on the year.

Providence Academy (2A) (7-13-0)- The Lions showed their inconsistencies yet again this week as they got absolutely blasted at home to start the week when they were run off the ice by #9 Monticello. However, they followed that up by upsetting Top 20 SWC to show on any given night this team can be scary. Due to their losses to Orono, Delano & MPLS but the 2nd win of the spilt with Breck the Lions look solid for the #4 seed in the 2A Playoffs.

Red Lake Falls (8A) (14-3-0)- The Eagles have now won eight games in a row after they got three more wins this week. Red Lake Falls continues their torrid pace of late as they eye the #4 seed in Section 8A. Big game this week as they have a rematch with Park Rapids, a team on a 12 game unbeaten streak, and the Panther won the first game in OT so this is a must win for the Eagles if they want home ice for the Quarterfinal Round.

Breck (2A) (11-9-1)- The Mustangs dropped their 3rd straight game in the only game of their week as they lost the head to head to Minneaplis and now look destined for the #5 seed in Section 2A. After winning 7 of 8 games and having the inside track to the #3 seed this three game losing streak could not have come at a worse time as now they have set themselves up with a very difficult path come section playoff time.

New Ulm (3A) (14-4-0)- The Eagles won two Big South Conference games this week over Minnesota River and Fairmont and improved their record to 14 wins. New Ulm has been dealing with injuries this year to top end guys which has hurt them in some of their big games. They still look strong to be the #2 seed in Section 3A and have a shot to get to State this March.

BHS Class A 2023-24 Section Break Downs Week #10 (1/28/24)

Section 1A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Northfield (13-2-2)
2- Dodge County (14-6-0)
3- La Crescent-Hokah (17-1-0)
4- Albert Lea (10-8-1)
5- Rochester Lourdes (7-12-0)
6- Winona (12-5-0)
7- Waseca (10-8-0)
8- Faribault (6-12-0)
9- Red Wing (4-14-1)
10- Austin (4-15-0)

Section 1A Outlook- Northfield (.500) on the week outside the section. Dodge County & La Crescent both went unbeaten outside the section. Albert Lea picked up the crucial 2nd win in the season series split with 1A Winona. Rochester Lourdes & Waseca went (.500) outside the section this week. Red Wing picked up the 1A head to head win over Austin this week. Faribault went winless on the week.

Section 2A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Orono (13-6-0)
2- Delano (12-7-1)
3- Minneapolis (8-11-0)
4- Providence Academy (7-13-0)
5- Breck (11-9-1)
6- Mound Westonka (8-10-1)
7- Hutchinson (5-12-2)
8- Litchfield Dassel-Cokato (3-15-1)

Section 2A Outlook- Orono went (.500) on the week outside the section. Delano picked up 2A wins over both Mound Westonka & Litchfield Dassel-Cokato. Hutchinson also got a 2A win over the Dragons this week. Minneapolis picked up the big 2A head to head win over Breck to lock up the 3 seed. Providence Academy went (.500) outside the section this week.

Section 3A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Luverne (16-2-0)
2- New Ulm (14-4-0)
3- Mankato East (9-10-1)
4- Mankato West (7-10-2)
5- Marshall (11-9-0)
6- Minnesota River (9-8-0)
7- Worthington (4-12-0)
8- Windom (4-15-0)
9- Redwood Valley (1-18-0)
10- Fairmont (2-20-0)

Section 3A Outlook- Luverne picked up a 3A win over Worthington to stay unbeaten in the section. New Ulm got 3A wins over Fairmont & Minnesota River. Mankato East & Mankato West both picked up one win outside the section. Marshall got the crucial 2nd win over the Bulldogs in the 3A season series for the 5 seed. Redwood Valley picked up their first win of the year in a 3A game over the Cardinals. Windom went winless on the week.

Section 4A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Mahtomedi (8-10-0)
2- Southwest Christian/Richfield (12-7-0)
3- Chisago Lakes (8-11-0)
4- St Paul Highland Park (8-11-0)
5- St Paul Academy (7-12-0)
6- South St Paul (7-12-0)
7- Simley (3-15-1)
8- Bloomington Kennedy (4-12-0)

Section 4A Outlook- Mahtomedi got a Section 4A head to head win over Chisago Lakes this week. Southwest Christian/Richfield picked up a head to head 4A win over St Paul Highland Park. St Paul Academy picked up a head to head 4A win over Simley. South St Paul went (1-2-0) outside the section and Bloomington Kennedy was idle on the week.

Section 5A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- St Cloud Cathedral (15-4-1)
2- Monticello (16-2-0)
3- Little Falls (13-7-0)
4- Princeton (10-9-1)
5- River Lakes (8-9-2)
6- Pine City (10-10-0)
7- Sauk Rapids (8-9-3)
8- Becker/Big Lake (10-7-0)
9- Mora/Milaca (10-9-1)

Section 5A Outlook- St Cloud Cathedral picked up a 5A rout of Little Falls this week. Monticello has now won 12 straight games. Princeton picked up a 5A sweep over Becker/Big Lake but the Eagles had a big upset win over 5A River Lakes earlier in the week. Pine City won both their games outside the section, while Sauk Rapids went .500 outside the section and Mora/Milaca went winless on the week.

Section 6A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Alexandria (8-8-1)
2- Northern Lakes (11-5-0)
3- Fergus Falls (6-13-0)
4- Prairie Centre (7-11-1)
5- Willmar (5-14-1)
6- Morris Benson (10-9-0)
7- Wadena Deer Creek (5-11-0)
8- Breckenridge/Wahpeton (5-13-0)

Section 6A Outlook- Alexandria picked up a 6A win over Willmar to stay unbeaten in the section. Fergus Falls went (1-2-0) outside the section. Prairie Centre had a big week picking up the 2nd wins in series splits over 6A Morris Benson and the Cardinals to move into the 4 seed for now. Wadena Deer Creek got the important 2nd win over Breckenridge/Wahpeton in their 6A season series. Northern Lakes was idle during the week.

Section 7A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Hermantown (12-6-2)
2- Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (10-10-0)
3- Hibbing (15-7-0)
4- Proctor (14-6-0)
5- North Shore (7-7-3)
6- Ely (12-9-0)
7- International Falls (4-11-2)
8- Greenway (3-14-2)
9- Moose Lake (5-14-0)

Section 7A Outlook- Hermantown went (1-2-0) but all games outside the section. Cloquet/Esko/Carlton went (.500) outside the section. Hibbing won all four games they played this week. Proctor picked up a 7A head to head win over Ely. North Shore and International Falls skated to a 7A Tie. Greenway broke their winless streak outside the section and Moose Lake was winless this week.

Section 8A Rankings (1/28/24)
1- Warroad (16-3-0)
2- East Grand Forks (13-6-1)
3- Thief River Falls (12-7-1)
4- Red Lake Falls (14-3-0)
5- Detroit Lakes (9-10-1)
6- Park Rapids (10-3-3)
7- Crookston (9-9-0)
8- Lake of the Woods (12-6-0)
9- Bagley/Fosston (6-12-0)
10- Kittson County Central (2-19-0)

Section 8A Outlook- Warroad won the big game this week on Hockey Day Minnesota. East Grand Forks went (.500) but got an 8A win over Crookston. Thief Rivers Falls went (2-1-0) outside the section on the week. Detroit Lakes continued their rough patch as they lost two games to North Dakota teams. Red Lake Falls went (3-0-0) on the week which included a win over 8A Bagley/Fosston. Lake of the Woods and the Pirates both got an 8A win over Kittson County Central.
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Re: A Rankings for 1/28/24

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Since you rely on just Class A games in your rankings, would it make more sense to just list each teams Class A record, instead of overall record?
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Corn Cobb wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:27 am Since you rely on just Class A games in your rankings, would it make more sense to just list each teams Class A record, instead of overall record?
Fair point, I try to put to the resume at the bottom in to give kind of look at the chart I use. Again, all are free to disagree this is by no means the ranking of choice for many, I try to include the rankings from all the best resources out there to give a good flavor of the overall view.

The official poll that people recognize, the coaches poll in Let's Play Hockey, goes off who is hot lately and ignores the season of work and past head to head results. PageStat goes off of SOS and and some other valuable metrics to come up with the best computer ranking. Both are also great rankings I like to think I am come in somewhere in the middle of those two polls.

Because in Class A you have many more outstate teams and just the geography of things makes it hard because some schools are playing more of metro based big school schedule while other are playing in regions of the state where hockey is not as strong. It really does create a metric of sometimes deceiving overall records. The way I have gone about it is what have you done within Class A all year. I rank like Class A was section seed meeting and what are the head to heads and what is the resume within the actually Class.

Not sure if its the best approach but I found it easiest to use when again so many of the teams are playing such a wide variety of teams. I still think people want to see how they are doing within whatever schedule they play but after getting bashed for including AA in front of all AA teams during the year I felt it was confusing of the way I rank which is on Class A results.

Tryin to blend the best of both worlds and again I know these are not the best but trying to give Class A fans something they can use and read and hopefully give some entertainment on Sunday Mornings like Karl has done so well for the AA world.
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Re: A Rankings for 1/28/24

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PageStat Top 20 for Class A Minn. Boys' high school hockey thru 1/27:
1. Warroad
2. Hermantown
3. East Grand Forks
4. St Cloud Cathedral
5. Mahtomedi
6. Delano
7. Northfield
8. Orono
9. Monticello
10. Cloquet
11. Hibbing
12. Luverne
13. Alexandria
14. Thief River Falls
15. MPLS
16. Proctor
17. La Crescent
18. Little Falls
19. Northern Lakes
20. Southwest Christian
Next 5 Teams: Dodge County, Detroit Lakes, Breck, Providence Academy, Chisago Lakes

PageStat Section by Section Rankings (1/27/24):
Section 1A
1 NORTHFIELD
2 LA CRESCENT
3 DODGE COUNTY
4 WINONA
5 ROCHESTER LOURDES
6 ALBERT LEA
7 WASECA
8 FARIBAULT
9 RED WING
10 AUSTIN

Section 2A
1 DELANO
2 ORONO
3 MINNEAPOLIS
4 BRECK
5 PROVIDENCE ACADEMY
6 MOUND WESTONKA
7 HUTCHINSON
8 LITCHFIELD

Section 3A
1 LUVERNE
2 NEW ULM
3 MANKATO WEST
4 MANKATO EAST
5 MINNESOTA RIVER
6 MARSHALL
7 WINDOM
8 WORTHINGTON
9 FAIRMONT
10 REDWOOD VALLEY

Section 4A
1 MAHTOMEDI
2 SOUTHWEST CHRISTIAN/RICHFIELD
3 CHISAGO LAKES
4 ST PAUL HIGHLAND PARK
5 ST PAUL ACADEMY
6 SOUTH ST PAUL
7 SIMLEY
8 BLOOM KENNEDY

Section 5A
1 ST CLOUD CATHEDRAL
2 MONTICELLO
3 LITTLE FALLS
4 PRINCETON
5 PINE CITY
6 RIVER LAKES
7 SAUK RAPIDS
8 BECKER BIG LAKE
9 MORA

Section 6A
1 ALEXANDRIA
2 NORTHERN LAKES
3 FERGUS FALLS
4 MORRIS/BENSON
5 PRAIRIE CENTRE
6 WILLMAR
7 BRECKENRIDGE
8 WADENA

Section 7A
1 HERMANTOWN
2 CLOQUET
3 HIBBING
4 PROCTOR
5 NORTH SHORE
6 GREENWAY
7 INTERNATIONAL FALLS
8 ELY
9 MOOSE LAKE

Section 8A
1 WARROAD
2 EAST GRAND FORKS
3 THIEF RIVER FALLS
4 DETROIT LAKES
5 RED LAKE FALLS
6 CROOKSTON
7 PARK RAPIDS
8 LAKE OF THE WOODS
9 BAGLEY
10 KITTSON CENTRAL
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Legacy Hockey Class A Rankings (1/28/24)
1. Warroad
2. Hermantown
3. St. Cloud Cathedral
4. East Grand Forks
5. Orono
6. Mahtomedi
7. Delano
8. Northfield
9. Monticello
10. Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
11. Proctor
12. Alexandria
13. Hibbing/Chisholm
14. Thief River Falls
15. Little Falls
16. Luverne
17. Northern Lakes
18. Dodge County
19. La Crescent-Hokah
20. Minneapolis
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Egads! The A tournament could see a sub 500 team seeded? No wonder there's no drama in the first round. It would save a lot of money to hold those games at the home rink of the higher seeds.
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Is there a listing of SOS somewhere?
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Mite-dad wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:30 am Is there a listing of SOS somewhere?
https://leepagen.com/strength.htm
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elliott70 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:52 am
Mite-dad wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:30 am Is there a listing of SOS somewhere?
https://leepagen.com/strength.htm
Thank you!
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East Side Pioneer Guy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:06 am Egads! The A tournament could see a sub 500 team seeded? No wonder there's no drama in the first round. It would save a lot of money to hold those games at the home rink of the higher seeds.
Disagree with that take but again everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For what it's worth at least the projected Section 4 champ in Class A can beat Two Rivers unlike the projected Section 4 champ in Class AA....
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East Side Pioneer Guy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:06 am Egads! The A tournament could see a sub 500 team seeded? No wonder there's no drama in the first round. It would save a lot of money to hold those games at the home rink of the higher seeds.
They won't have a losing record by the time they hit state (assuming they make it). Guessing more like 16-12 by then.

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ClassAGuy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:15 pm
East Side Pioneer Guy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:06 am Egads! The A tournament could see a sub 500 team seeded? No wonder there's no drama in the first round. It would save a lot of money to hold those games at the home rink of the higher seeds.
Disagree with that take but again everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For what it's worth at least the projected Section 4 champ in Class A can beat Two Rivers unlike the projected Section 4 champ in Class AA....
That zinger probably works better if Mahtomedi didn’t just lose by 8 to hill, but maybe that’s just me.
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green4 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:30 pm
ClassAGuy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:15 pm
East Side Pioneer Guy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:06 am Egads! The A tournament could see a sub 500 team seeded? No wonder there's no drama in the first round. It would save a lot of money to hold those games at the home rink of the higher seeds.
Disagree with that take but again everyone is entitled to their own opinion. For what it's worth at least the projected Section 4 champ in Class A can beat Two Rivers unlike the projected Section 4 champ in Class AA....
That zinger probably works better if Mahtomedi didn’t just lose by 8 to hill, but maybe that’s just me.
Was just showing how results from night to night and records in general are deceiving. If want to go further into the Hill Murray example look at last year they entered section with a sub 500 record showed up at State with a (14-13-1) record and I thought had played one of the more drama filled games of the whole AA tournament with Tonka. I am glad that because of their record, under East Side Pioneer Guy theory, they were not told to go play play at a home rink.

On any given night in high school crazy things can happen heck even Two Rivers on a given night can beat mighty Hill Murray.

The Class A Tourney on Wednesday has been issue due to some sections not being able to produce a team from some geographic region that are at the level of the top end. Depth is an issue in the small field but interestingly AA this year is getting closer to the Class A Wednesday problem. It wont every get to the same level because even a weak 1AA champion, as long as they keep the metro Lakeville in it, has tons of kids to pull from to put together 3 lines that in some outstate areas of Class A thy just don't have the same numbers or base to do.

Again, not trying to compare Class A vs AA we all know AA is king never gonna question that. However, the small school field is growing and getting better hockey every year. I would say the overall drama of Class A has matched and even exceeded AA some years. Class A continues to grow and give kids opportunities I do think if all the projected winners of each section win this year it would be one of the deeper Class A fields we have ever seen and give us the best Wednesday since the amazing drama filled 2017 year which had 4 outstanding Quarterfinal games, but only time will tell.

I don't want Class A Ranking thread to get highjacked with Cobb, East Side Pioneer Guy and green taking shots at me because they don't like me. I will end this side discussion yes the Wednesday at Class A is in need of continued work but I am glad those kids have a chance to play in St Paul. Hoping we see development down the road.

This Mahtomedi team reminds me of the 2021 team that entered Sections (13-11-1) which will be very close to what this team finishes around. They went to state and got seeded and then nearly knocked off heavily favored Warroad in the Semifinal round losing 5-4 in OT and very entertaining game.
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I wouldn't take too much offense to things, Class A. You do a great job as a curator of class a content and you're a great ambassador for the class a system. You have to admit that it is a little strange to think that a below .500 team could actually be seeded at State, let alone make it there. But yes, assuming they make it to State they will likely have an above .500 record due to sections wins. But we know why they have the record they do - Mahtomedi plays a heavy AA schedule.

You are totally right that day 1 in the AA tourney may have more blowouts that day 1 in the A tourney! We could be looking at a couple of running time games, depending on the unseeded teams that have the misfortune of playing the top couple of seeds. As I said before, avoid Edina/Wayzata and Tonka/Chanhassen seeds at all costs on Thursday. Then you have a chance to get blown out on Friday night instead :lol:
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BlueLineSpecial wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:42 am I wouldn't take too much offense to things, Class A. You do a great job as a curator of class a content and you're a great ambassador for the class a system. You have to admit that it is a little strange to think that a below .500 team could actually be seeded at State, let alone make it there. But yes, assuming they make it to State they will likely have an above .500 record due to sections wins. But we know why they have the record they do - Mahtomedi plays a heavy AA schedule.

You are totally right that day 1 in the AA tourney may have more blowouts that day 1 in the A tourney! We could be looking at a couple of running time games, depending on the unseeded teams that have the misfortune of playing the top couple of seeds. As I said before, avoid Edina/Wayzata and Tonka/Chanhassen seeds at all costs on Thursday. Then you have a chance to get blown out on Friday night instead :lol:
Agree with all points above BlueLIneSpecial.

Mahtomedi seems to the source of the venom here. Yes they are right now (9-10-0) at below .500 but you have to win 3 games to get to state so as Lee pointed out they would be above (.500). I was hoping that maybe they get unseeded because a matchup of Hermantown vs Maht or Warroad vs Maht on Wednesday along with a good 4 vs 5 matchup of like NFLD vs Orono would be delight.

I just find the Zephs hard to rank they have 10 losses (Tonka, EP, HM x2, STA, Cent, Warroad, Hermantown, EGF, Delano) the worse loss is Delano in OT in a game they controlled throughout and heavily outshot the Tigers and lost 2-1 in OT to a hot goalie. I get ripped on the Pod weekly for rankings this week it was that, "Mahtomedi is gifted the 5 spot in the rankings" I understand the statement but who goes ahead of them? NFLD and Monti lack the quality win vs anyone else the Top 10 besides their own match up which the Raiders won and the 10 spots has been a revolving door all year

You really have Maht, Orono & Delano at 5-6-7 and they all own a win over each other. So you cant just do head to head. I look at that Maht has played the top teams closer and tougher. That is why the HM score last week shocked me they haven't been blown out all year until then. Again, to rip myself as try hard to be consistent I struggle with Delano at 7 because they beat #3 SCC that to me if a good counterpoint and worth discussing. Again, having watched the Zeph vs Delano game I came away thinking Maht was the better team as they were in control but failed to score. Again, that is a great debate and one I totally get if you want Delano higher.

I was also just showing that Maht two years ago only ended the regular season (13-11-1) I predicted this years team to go (14-11-0) at the start of the year and so far they look like they will be (13-12-0) if they continue to win all the games they should and lose to Top 20 AA teams to finish out. That 2021 team got a 3 seed and no one said boo. Now this year everyone is all obsessed by record suddenly. It all has me confused.

I am rooting for Maht be unseeded cause it would be huge for interest in Wed but I just dont see it happening more than likely be #5 and have a tough game with either Orono or Delano and then give the Warrior fits in the semis should they win the QF game.
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ClassAGuy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:20 am
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:42 am I wouldn't take too much offense to things, Class A. You do a great job as a curator of class a content and you're a great ambassador for the class a system. You have to admit that it is a little strange to think that a below .500 team could actually be seeded at State, let alone make it there. But yes, assuming they make it to State they will likely have an above .500 record due to sections wins. But we know why they have the record they do - Mahtomedi plays a heavy AA schedule.

You are totally right that day 1 in the AA tourney may have more blowouts that day 1 in the A tourney! We could be looking at a couple of running time games, depending on the unseeded teams that have the misfortune of playing the top couple of seeds. As I said before, avoid Edina/Wayzata and Tonka/Chanhassen seeds at all costs on Thursday. Then you have a chance to get blown out on Friday night instead :lol:
I get ripped on the Pod weekly for rankings this week it was that, "Mahtomedi is gifted the 5 spot in the rankings" I understand the statement but who goes ahead of them?
Gifted? How does a computerized ranking system give a team a "gift"? PageStat has had them roughly in that spot all season. Guys on the Pod needed filler content that week, I guess :mrgreen:

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east hockey wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:48 am
ClassAGuy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:20 am
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:42 am I wouldn't take too much offense to things, Class A. You do a great job as a curator of class a content and you're a great ambassador for the class a system. You have to admit that it is a little strange to think that a below .500 team could actually be seeded at State, let alone make it there. But yes, assuming they make it to State they will likely have an above .500 record due to sections wins. But we know why they have the record they do - Mahtomedi plays a heavy AA schedule.

You are totally right that day 1 in the AA tourney may have more blowouts that day 1 in the A tourney! We could be looking at a couple of running time games, depending on the unseeded teams that have the misfortune of playing the top couple of seeds. As I said before, avoid Edina/Wayzata and Tonka/Chanhassen seeds at all costs on Thursday. Then you have a chance to get blown out on Friday night instead :lol:
I get ripped on the Pod weekly for rankings this week it was that, "Mahtomedi is gifted the 5 spot in the rankings" I understand the statement but who goes ahead of them?
Gifted? How does a computerized ranking system give a team a "gift"? PageStat has had them roughly in that spot all season. Guys on the Pod needed filler content that week, I guess :mrgreen:

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To the Pod's defense I get it the Class A Ranking Top 10 stayed the same this week. Which is boring and they needed to say something so they went after Maht at 5, due to the very odd blowout loss Hill, which I understood. I just didn't like the argument that they were there only because they won state last year. They are not the team they were last year but they are right around 5 right now in the A world. They also wanted Orono dropped due to a loss to St Cloud Public. Again who moves above them? Delano lost to a 3 win Chaska last week. NFLD again has yet to earn that Top 7 quality win and they also said Monti is winning but not beating anyone great so they are still on the outside. I agree but again then how do you move Maht and Orono down? Move NFLD up for losing to SCC a team Delano beat and again Orono beat NFLD head to head.... I hate having the same 10 but the results and schedule are kind of boxing me into what we have which is a stabilizing Top 10 right now for Class A and dont get the weekly inner Top 10-15 matchup like AA.

Again its all fun discussion but alot of the venom seems related to Maht and their record but its really hard to find better options at this point.
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BHS Let’s Play Hockey Class A Ranking
1. Warroad
2. Hermantown
3 .St. Cloud Cathedral
4. East Grand Forks
5. Mahtomedi
6. Orono
7. Northfield
8. Monticello
9. Delano
10. Alexandria
11. Hibbing/Chisholm
12. Proctor
13. Thief River Falls
14. Little Falls
15. Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
16. Luverne
17. Dodge County
18. Northern Lakes
19. La Crescent-Hokah
20. Southwest Christian/Richfield

OTHER TEAMS RECEIVING VOTES: Detroit Lakes, New Ulm, Crookston, Minneapolis, Red Lake Falls, Providence Academy, Pine City Area, Lake of the Woods, Princeton.
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ClassAGuy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:20 am
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:42 am I wouldn't take too much offense to things, Class A. You do a great job as a curator of class a content and you're a great ambassador for the class a system. You have to admit that it is a little strange to think that a below .500 team could actually be seeded at State, let alone make it there. But yes, assuming they make it to State they will likely have an above .500 record due to sections wins. But we know why they have the record they do - Mahtomedi plays a heavy AA schedule.

You are totally right that day 1 in the AA tourney may have more blowouts that day 1 in the A tourney! We could be looking at a couple of running time games, depending on the unseeded teams that have the misfortune of playing the top couple of seeds. As I said before, avoid Edina/Wayzata and Tonka/Chanhassen seeds at all costs on Thursday. Then you have a chance to get blown out on Friday night instead :lol:
Agree with all points above BlueLIneSpecial.

Mahtomedi seems to the source of the venom here. Yes they are right now (9-10-0) at below .500 but you have to win 3 games to get to state so as Lee pointed out they would be above (.500). I was hoping that maybe they get unseeded because a matchup of Hermantown vs Maht or Warroad vs Maht on Wednesday along with a good 4 vs 5 matchup of like NFLD vs Orono would be delight.

I just find the Zephs hard to rank they have 10 losses (Tonka, EP, HM x2, STA, Cent, Warroad, Hermantown, EGF, Delano) the worse loss is Delano in OT in a game they controlled throughout and heavily outshot the Tigers and lost 2-1 in OT to a hot goalie. I get ripped on the Pod weekly for rankings this week it was that, "Mahtomedi is gifted the 5 spot in the rankings" I understand the statement but who goes ahead of them? NFLD and Monti lack the quality win vs anyone else the Top 10 besides their own match up which the Raiders won and the 10 spots has been a revolving door all year

You really have Maht, Orono & Delano at 5-6-7 and they all own a win over each other. So you cant just do head to head. I look at that Maht has played the top teams closer and tougher. That is why the HM score last week shocked me they haven't been blown out all year until then. Again, to rip myself as try hard to be consistent I struggle with Delano at 7 because they beat #3 SCC that to me if a good counterpoint and worth discussing. Again, having watched the Zeph vs Delano game I came away thinking Maht was the better team as they were in control but failed to score. Again, that is a great debate and one I totally get if you want Delano higher.

I was also just showing that Maht two years ago only ended the regular season (13-11-1) I predicted this years team to go (14-11-0) at the start of the year and so far they look like they will be (13-12-0) if they continue to win all the games they should and lose to Top 20 AA teams to finish out. That 2021 team got a 3 seed and no one said boo. Now this year everyone is all obsessed by record suddenly. It all has me confused.

I am rooting for Maht be unseeded cause it would be huge for interest in Wed but I just dont see it happening more than likely be #5 and have a tough game with either Orono or Delano and then give the Warrior fits in the semis should they win the QF game.
I love the guys at YHH because of their commitment to the game and the passion they have for it. BUT. the question I put in bold is one they can never answer. I understand being bullish on Mahtomedi because of their record, and some of the losses they've had. But, even after losing to STA last night 8-1 AND dropping their 9-1 drubbing to Hill, they still absolutely deserve their spot in the rankings. You could make an argument to put Orono, Delano, or Northfield above them, but as you've pointed out several times, Mahtomedi beat Orono. Yes they lost a close one to Delano, but Delano also lost to Orono. And a 3-17 Chaska team. And had one goal games against Breck and Minneapolis.

So then you look at Northfield, with their 15-2-2 record. They also convincingly lost to Orono. And tied Spring Lake Park and Osseo. And then they rack up wins against teams in the mighty Big 9 conference. What it comes down to for me is this - If Mahtomedi played the same schedule that Orono, Delano, or Northfield had, then they would have a better record, and people wouldn't question their spot in the rankings.
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This is the most excited I've been for the A tournament maybe ever. The field should be great this year, just hoping no crazy upsets in the sections
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The51 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:15 am This is the most excited I've been for the A tournament maybe ever. The field should be great this year, just hoping no crazy upsets in the sections
8A could be an upset but not much of one.
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The51 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:15 am This is the most excited I've been for the A tournament maybe ever. The field should be great this year, just hoping no crazy upsets in the sections
upsets TOP 3 (ARGUABLY)

1A Northfield
La Crescent or Dodge County
not likely but Lacrescent at the X would be fun

2A Orono or Delano
Minneapolis not likely

3A Luverne
New Ulm or Mankato East
Yes, I could see an upset

4A Mahtomedi
Chisago or SW Christian
Hot goalie and Maht might not make it but not likely

5A St Cloud Cathedral
Monticello or Little Falls - nope

6A Alexandria
Northern Lkae maybe
Fergus - no

7A Hermantown
Hibbing Proctor Cloquet
2 or 3 seed maybe

8A Warroad
East Grand Forks is very possible
Thief River Falls back to babk upsets nope
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my predictions
no upsets
Northfield
Orono
Luverne
Mahtomedi
St Coud Cathedral
Alexandria
Hermantown
Warroad
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elliott70 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:49 am my predictions
no upsets
Northfield
Orono
Luverne
Mahtomedi
St Coud Cathedral
Alexandria
Hermantown
Warroad
This would be the exact same Tourney as last year which would, I think, be the first time all 8 teams make it back the next year. I love this bracket. elliott is spot on looking through the field

Very excited to see how this plays out!
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stateofhawkey wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 am
ClassAGuy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:20 am
BlueLineSpecial wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:42 am I wouldn't take too much offense to things, Class A. You do a great job as a curator of class a content and you're a great ambassador for the class a system. You have to admit that it is a little strange to think that a below .500 team could actually be seeded at State, let alone make it there. But yes, assuming they make it to State they will likely have an above .500 record due to sections wins. But we know why they have the record they do - Mahtomedi plays a heavy AA schedule.

You are totally right that day 1 in the AA tourney may have more blowouts that day 1 in the A tourney! We could be looking at a couple of running time games, depending on the unseeded teams that have the misfortune of playing the top couple of seeds. As I said before, avoid Edina/Wayzata and Tonka/Chanhassen seeds at all costs on Thursday. Then you have a chance to get blown out on Friday night instead :lol:
Agree with all points above BlueLIneSpecial.

Mahtomedi seems to the source of the venom here. Yes they are right now (9-10-0) at below .500 but you have to win 3 games to get to state so as Lee pointed out they would be above (.500). I was hoping that maybe they get unseeded because a matchup of Hermantown vs Maht or Warroad vs Maht on Wednesday along with a good 4 vs 5 matchup of like NFLD vs Orono would be delight.

I just find the Zephs hard to rank they have 10 losses (Tonka, EP, HM x2, STA, Cent, Warroad, Hermantown, EGF, Delano) the worse loss is Delano in OT in a game they controlled throughout and heavily outshot the Tigers and lost 2-1 in OT to a hot goalie. I get ripped on the Pod weekly for rankings this week it was that, "Mahtomedi is gifted the 5 spot in the rankings" I understand the statement but who goes ahead of them? NFLD and Monti lack the quality win vs anyone else the Top 10 besides their own match up which the Raiders won and the 10 spots has been a revolving door all year

You really have Maht, Orono & Delano at 5-6-7 and they all own a win over each other. So you cant just do head to head. I look at that Maht has played the top teams closer and tougher. That is why the HM score last week shocked me they haven't been blown out all year until then. Again, to rip myself as try hard to be consistent I struggle with Delano at 7 because they beat #3 SCC that to me if a good counterpoint and worth discussing. Again, having watched the Zeph vs Delano game I came away thinking Maht was the better team as they were in control but failed to score. Again, that is a great debate and one I totally get if you want Delano higher.

I was also just showing that Maht two years ago only ended the regular season (13-11-1) I predicted this years team to go (14-11-0) at the start of the year and so far they look like they will be (13-12-0) if they continue to win all the games they should and lose to Top 20 AA teams to finish out. That 2021 team got a 3 seed and no one said boo. Now this year everyone is all obsessed by record suddenly. It all has me confused.

I am rooting for Maht be unseeded cause it would be huge for interest in Wed but I just dont see it happening more than likely be #5 and have a tough game with either Orono or Delano and then give the Warrior fits in the semis should they win the QF game.
I love the guys at YHH because of their commitment to the game and the passion they have for it. BUT. the question I put in bold is one they can never answer. I understand being bullish on Mahtomedi because of their record, and some of the losses they've had. But, even after losing to STA last night 8-1 AND dropping their 9-1 drubbing to Hill, they still absolutely deserve their spot in the rankings. You could make an argument to put Orono, Delano, or Northfield above them, but as you've pointed out several times, Mahtomedi beat Orono. Yes they lost a close one to Delano, but Delano also lost to Orono. And a 3-17 Chaska team. And had one goal games against Breck and Minneapolis.

So then you look at Northfield, with their 15-2-2 record. They also convincingly lost to Orono. And tied Spring Lake Park and Osseo. And then they rack up wins against teams in the mighty Big 9 conference. What it comes down to for me is this - If Mahtomedi played the same schedule that Orono, Delano, or Northfield had, then they would have a better record, and people wouldn't question their spot in the rankings.
The YHH Pod is awesome they have created a weekly platform that has become the source for many HS Hockey Puck followers. I get the shots taken at Mahtomedi at #5, which they will be again this week (Assuming they take care of Simley), because this is not as good of Zephs group this year. But they still look to be #5 based the thing they never do on the Pod which is offer up other suggestions.
This is the latest "Pagestat as of this morning 2/2 Class A Top 10"
1. Warroad
2. Hermantown
3. East Grand Forks
4. St Cloud Cath.
5. Mahtomedi
6. Northfield
7. Orono
8. Delano
9. Monticello
10. Alexandria

If you factor in head to head and move SCC over EGF and Orono over NFLD yep we are looking at almost the same Top 10... It really just is what it is at this point. EGF vs Warroad & Monti vs Alex next week offer some inner Top 10 battle and Delano vs NFLD the next week. Overall I don't see too much change and really now its more about getting ready for Sections and what could be one of our more deeper Class A Fields in a few weeks.
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