GREENWAY AT HERMANTOWN
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I know it's been said over and over again, but it's really a shame...a team like Greenway, which has a group come along maybe every decade with a shot at making a run in St. Paul, only to get beaten by a team making their 9th straight appearance. 16 years since Greenway's last state appearance, I believe. Can't fault the Hermantown players, of course.
Another top 5, legitimate Class A team from the Iron Range will not go to State and give their program and community a much needed boost. That was probably the Range's last chance. Next year starts at least an 8 year run for Hermantown with some of the best players from all over Northern MN and Wisconsin. Sad day for small town, community based programs in the Northland. It's all over....northwoods oldtimer wrote:Helluva a game by a Greenway.duluth dave wrote:hermantown wins
St. Paul gets the same old, same old representing section 7
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Dang. Brutally disappointed for Greenway - I was really hoping to see them at the X. Oh well, we all know the Raiders are the Section 7 champions of true single A hockey, even if H-town gets to take their AA program to St. Paul yet again... for the Wednesday session.
For some reason, it now feels wrong to support the tournament when H-town is there. I truly hope the Section 7 AA programs refuse to schedule H-town in the future, if they are still playing as an A level team.
Both teams played a tremendous game and the kids for both put on a prime demonstration of passion and skill in the game.
For some reason, it now feels wrong to support the tournament when H-town is there. I truly hope the Section 7 AA programs refuse to schedule H-town in the future, if they are still playing as an A level team.
Both teams played a tremendous game and the kids for both put on a prime demonstration of passion and skill in the game.
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Get on the phone... It's a simple fix. IF you play more than 50% of your games against AA competition, you are then AA for the Playoffs. ALL, Private Schools are AA, period.Jeffy95 wrote:Another top 5, legitimate Class A team from the Iron Range will not go to State and give their program and community a much needed boost. That was probably the Range's last chance. Next year starts at least an 8 year run for Hermantown with some of the best players from all over Northern MN and Wisconsin. Sad day for small town, community based programs in the Northland. It's all over....northwoods oldtimer wrote:Helluva a game by a Greenway.duluth dave wrote:hermantown wins
St. Paul gets the same old, same old representing section 7
Maybe the QRF penalizing the AA teams for playing them will help, but I've pretty much given up hope at this point. It's pretty sad, I feel bad for those Greenway kids.Immigrant Fan wrote:Dang. Brutally disappointed for Greenway - I was really hoping to see them at the X. Oh well, we all know the Raiders are the Section 7 champions of true single A hockey, even if H-town gets to take their AA program to St. Paul yet again... for the Wednesday session.
For some reason, it now feels wrong to support the tournament when H-town is there. I truly hope the Section 7 AA programs refuse to schedule H-town in the future, if they are still playing as an A level team.
Both teams played a tremendous game and the kids for both put on a prime demonstration of passion and skill in the game.
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Well, it was a thrilling night at Amsoil, to say the least. Credit to Greenway for giving it their all and then some. The game-tying goal was as stunning a turn of events as I've seen in a while, and they had their chances to make it happen. Gotta feel for this team.
Hermantown, even when pushed to the brink--as they have been in their last four playoff games against quality competition--just finds ways. The difference-maker, I think, was their ability to spot a third line at times, which kept the top group just fresh enough, and they took over the game for stretches late in periods. In almost every period, they seemed to get stronger as they went along. Rolling two lines is hard enough for three periods, let alone five, though those Greenway kids came awfully close to making it happen. The Hawks are going to have to ride that top line awfully hard next week, but they'll deserve the top seed yet again, and they've got enough to win it all again if they take care of business.
Greenway has a lot of talent coming back for next season, too. I know Hermantown has a bumper class of bantams coming in, but I wouldn't write off the Raiders quite yet. Anyone know Hyttinen's status for next year? Normally foreign exchange students are listed as seniors and I figured it was a one-year deal, but he is listed as a sophomore on the program. He was phenomenal tonight.
Hermantown, even when pushed to the brink--as they have been in their last four playoff games against quality competition--just finds ways. The difference-maker, I think, was their ability to spot a third line at times, which kept the top group just fresh enough, and they took over the game for stretches late in periods. In almost every period, they seemed to get stronger as they went along. Rolling two lines is hard enough for three periods, let alone five, though those Greenway kids came awfully close to making it happen. The Hawks are going to have to ride that top line awfully hard next week, but they'll deserve the top seed yet again, and they've got enough to win it all again if they take care of business.
Greenway has a lot of talent coming back for next season, too. I know Hermantown has a bumper class of bantams coming in, but I wouldn't write off the Raiders quite yet. Anyone know Hyttinen's status for next year? Normally foreign exchange students are listed as seniors and I figured it was a one-year deal, but he is listed as a sophomore on the program. He was phenomenal tonight.
Greenway is a small town, Class A program. They have no choice but to play only two lines. Their Bantam A team took third in State last year with Troumbly and Miller and only 8 other skaters. Hermantown beat them 6-2, and that was with Joey Pierce still in Ely.karl(east) wrote:Well, it was a thrilling night at Amsoil, to say the least. Credit to Greenway for giving it their all and then some. The game-tying goal was as stunning a turn of events as I've seen in a while, and they had their chances to make it happen. Gotta feel for this team.
Hermantown, even when pushed to the brink--as they have been in their last four playoff games against quality competition--just finds ways. The difference-maker, I think, was their ability to spot a third line at times, which kept the top group just fresh enough, and they took over the game for stretches late in periods. In almost every period, they seemed to get stronger as they went along. Rolling two lines is hard enough for three periods, let alone five, though those Greenway kids came awfully close to making it happen. The Hawks are going to have to ride that top line awfully hard next week, but they'll deserve the top seed yet again, and they've got enough to win it all again if they take care of business.
Greenway has a lot of talent coming back for next season, too. I know Hermantown has a bumper class of bantams coming in, but I wouldn't write off the Raiders quite yet. Anyone know Hyttinen's status for next year? Normally foreign exchange students are listed as seniors and I figured it was a one-year deal, but he is listed as a sophomore on the program. He was phenomenal tonight.
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I'm confused by the bolded, are you saying that Hermantown is a private school?fastncrash wrote:Get on the phone... It's a simple fix. IF you play more than 50% of your games against AA competition, you are then AA for the Playoffs. ALL, Private Schools are AA, period.Jeffy95 wrote:Another top 5, legitimate Class A team from the Iron Range will not go to State and give their program and community a much needed boost. That was probably the Range's last chance. Next year starts at least an 8 year run for Hermantown with some of the best players from all over Northern MN and Wisconsin. Sad day for small town, community based programs in the Northland. It's all over....northwoods oldtimer wrote: Helluva a game by a Greenway.
St. Paul gets the same old, same old representing section 7
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Wait wait wait, so you're telling me that Greenway's goalie is a Finnish exchange student?karl(east) wrote:Anyone know Hyttinen's status for next year? Normally foreign exchange students are listed as seniors and I figured it was a one-year deal, but he is listed as a sophomore on the program. He was phenomenal tonight.
Jeffy, why aren't you up in arms about this?!? He didn't play for Greenway starting at the mite level so he definitely shouldn't be able to play for the high school team like all of those dang Hermantown open-enrollees that move-in from all over the state, right?
Nice new account HermHawkey, very clever. Foreign exchange students follow very strict rules. Sports cannot be a factor in them coming to your school, they are assigned to schools by YFU. Greenway has lost several players over the years. Hermantown has at least 40 kids in their youth program that are not from Hermantown. They don't win last night without Watkins, Gotz and Herter. Average team without those three. Don't ever compare Greenway to Hermantown, entirely different planets. Greenway has represented everything that is great about Class A Hockey. All while having a dream of making it back to AA. They gladly traded with you to play Tier 1 in the early 90's so you could play in Tier 2 even though you finished in Tier 1.HHawks4Ever wrote:Wait wait wait, so you're telling me that Greenway's goalie is a Finnish exchange student?karl(east) wrote:Anyone know Hyttinen's status for next year? Normally foreign exchange students are listed as seniors and I figured it was a one-year deal, but he is listed as a sophomore on the program. He was phenomenal tonight.
Jeffy, why aren't you up in arms about this?!? He didn't play for Greenway starting at the mite level so he definitely shouldn't be able to play for the high school team like all of those dang Hermantown open-enrollees that move-in from all over the state, right?
But there is really no point in arguing anymore. 7A is finished. Last night was the final nail in the coffin. Hermantown's legacy is complete.
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Where are those three from originally?Jeffy95 wrote:Nice new account HermHawkey, very clever. Foreign exchange students follow very strict rules. Sports cannot be a factor in them coming to your school, they are assigned to schools by YFU. Greenway has lost several players over the years. Hermantown has at least 40 kids in their youth program that are not from Hermantown. They don't win last night without Watkins, Gotz and Herter. Average team without those three. Don't ever compare Greenway to Hermantown, entirely different planets. Greenway has represented everything that is great about Class A Hockey. All while having a dream of making it back to AA. They gladly traded with you to play Tier 1 in the early 90's so you could play in Tier 2 even though you finished in Tier 1.HHawks4Ever wrote:Wait wait wait, so you're telling me that Greenway's goalie is a Finnish exchange student?karl(east) wrote:Anyone know Hyttinen's status for next year? Normally foreign exchange students are listed as seniors and I figured it was a one-year deal, but he is listed as a sophomore on the program. He was phenomenal tonight.
Jeffy, why aren't you up in arms about this?!? He didn't play for Greenway starting at the mite level so he definitely shouldn't be able to play for the high school team like all of those dang Hermantown open-enrollees that move-in from all over the state, right?
But there is really no point in arguing anymore. 7A is finished. Last night was the final nail in the coffin. Hermantown's legacy is complete.
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Wow IF right on!!Immigrant Fan wrote:Dang. Brutally disappointed for Greenway - I was really hoping to see them at the X. Oh well, we all know the Raiders are the Section 7 champions of true single A hockey, even if H-town gets to take their AA program to St. Paul yet again... for the Wednesday session.
For some reason, it now feels wrong to support the tournament when H-town is there. I truly hope the Section 7 AA programs refuse to schedule H-town in the future, if they are still playing as an A level team.
Both teams played a tremendous game and the kids for both put on a prime demonstration of passion and skill in the game.
Take it one step further all AA teams in the state should boycott em.
Mike Randolph is crazy like a fox, yup.
Little ol Greenway almost got it done last night, fantastic game indeed.
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Exactly right! Duluth East make us proud . #218pucknorthwoods oldtimer wrote:Same here knivsy thought we might have had 2 party crashers in St Paul in 2018. CEC and Green Machine.kniven wrote:Yea. I was so looking forward to seeing Greenway in the state tournament this year. Hermantown got 7A wrapped up for the next decade.
Now its up to the Hounds to rep 218 hockey.