Elk River seeding

[HappyHockeyFan]

I think Cloquet and Duluth Marshall got a bad deal, I have them both ranked much higher than Elk River yet ER gets seeded over them?? I don't even have ER in my top 20. Any thoughts?

[MWS coach]

KARMA? Tough to collaborate with a computer!

[alcloseshaver]

Then put Elk River in your top 20, problem solved.

[alcloseshaver]

I usually don't look at your rankings because Karl is the source on this site for rankings but what formula doesn't have ER in the top 20?.

[GopherHockey]

I think Cloquet and Duluth Marshall got a bad deal, I have them both ranked much higher than Elk River yet ER gets seeded over them?? I don't even have ER in my top 20. Any thoughts?

Call the committee and let them know

[Traxler]

I think Cloquet and Duluth Marshall got a bad deal, I have them both ranked much higher than Elk River yet ER gets seeded over them?? I don't even have ER in my top 20. Any thoughts?

My thoughts are that while the QRF has its flaws, I am glad 7AA is not using your rankings to seed.

[Schotzy]

Yeah, while your rankings have their entertainment value, I think that is all they are good for, entertainment. Not a lot of accuracy when you eliminate certain stats. I think the QRF got it pretty close to spot on. A few misses here and there, but nothing drastic.

[kniven]

I usually don't look at your rankings because Karl is the source on this site for rankings but what formula doesn't have ER in the top 20?.

Agreed

[HappyHockeyFan]

Well you can say what you want about my rankings but Elk River has earned considerable less points than Cloquet and Duluth Marshall:

Cloquet-Esko - 215.5
Duluth Marshall - 175.5
Elk River - 131

Section wins:

Cloquet-Esko - Duluth East, Duluth Marshall, Grand Rapids and another tie with Duluth East.

Duluth Marshall - Forest Lake, Grand Rapids, tie with Duluth East

Elk River - Andover, Grand Rapids

If you want to argue ER over Duluth Marshall, maybe, but over Cloquet?? No way. I wont be a bit surprised if ER loses to Forest Lake, but hey, you wanna love on ER and the "Other" rankings, go for it. All I can say about ER is ... "Over Rated" said like the tournament chant.

[Traxler]

Well you can say what you want about my rankings but Elk River has earned considerable less points than Cloquet and Duluth Marshall:

Cloquet-Esko - 215.5
Duluth Marshall - 175.5
Elk River - 131

Section wins:

Cloquet-Esko - Duluth East, Duluth Marshall, Grand Rapids and another tie with Duluth East.

Duluth Marshall - Forest Lake, Grand Rapids, tie with Duluth East

Elk River - Andover, Grand Rapids

If you want to argue ER over Duluth Marshall, maybe, but over Cloquet?? No way. I wont be a bit surprised if ER loses to Forest Lake, but hey, you wanna love on ER and the "Other" rankings, go for it. All I can say about ER is ... "Over Rated" said like the tournament chant.

You are demonstrating how poorly your ranking formula represents what teams have accomplished.

[HappyHockeyFan]

Well you can say what you want about my rankings but Elk River has earned considerable less points than Cloquet and Duluth Marshall:

Cloquet-Esko - 215.5
Duluth Marshall - 175.5
Elk River - 131

Section wins:

Cloquet-Esko - Duluth East, Duluth Marshall, Grand Rapids and another tie with Duluth East.

Duluth Marshall - Forest Lake, Grand Rapids, tie with Duluth East

Elk River - Andover, Grand Rapids

If you want to argue ER over Duluth Marshall, maybe, but over Cloquet?? No way. I wont be a bit surprised if ER loses to Forest Lake, but hey, you wanna love on ER and the "Other" rankings, go for it. All I can say about ER is ... "Over Rated" said like the tournament chant.

You are demonstrating how poorly your ranking formula represents what teams have accomplished.

But yet 90% of my ranking closely matches the other rankings, you make no sense, please tell what ER has done to deserve a top twenty ranking or a #3 seed. Your quick to criticize but you give me nothing to prove your point.

[Traxler]

Well you can say what you want about my rankings but Elk River has earned considerable less points than Cloquet and Duluth Marshall:

Cloquet-Esko - 215.5
Duluth Marshall - 175.5
Elk River - 131

Section wins:

Cloquet-Esko - Duluth East, Duluth Marshall, Grand Rapids and another tie with Duluth East.

Duluth Marshall - Forest Lake, Grand Rapids, tie with Duluth East

Elk River - Andover, Grand Rapids

If you want to argue ER over Duluth Marshall, maybe, but over Cloquet?? No way. I wont be a bit surprised if ER loses to Forest Lake, but hey, you wanna love on ER and the "Other" rankings, go for it. All I can say about ER is ... "Over Rated" said like the tournament chant.

You are demonstrating how poorly your ranking formula represents what teams have accomplished.

But yet 90% of my ranking closely matches the other rankings, you make no sense, please tell what ER has done to deserve a top twenty ranking or a #3 seed. Your quick to criticize but you give me nothing to prove your point.

I guess your rankings are about 90% correct.

You asked for thoughts and I gave you my thoughts. If you can’t handle that, why do you ask?

[HappyHockeyFan]

You are demonstrating how poorly your ranking formula represents what teams have accomplished.

But yet 90% of my ranking closely matches the other rankings, you make no sense, please tell what ER has done to deserve a top twenty ranking or a #3 seed. Your quick to criticize but you give me nothing to prove your point.

I guess your rankings are about 90% correct.

You asked for thoughts and I gave you my thoughts. If you can’t handle that, why do you ask?

I would appreciate your thoughts if you would include a valid argument as to why you think I am wrong or whatever instead of doing a drive by. But hey, if that's all ya got then whatever.

[Traxler]

But yet 90% of my ranking closely matches the other rankings, you make no sense, please tell what ER has done to deserve a top twenty ranking or a #3 seed. Your quick to criticize but you give me nothing to prove your point.

I guess your rankings are about 90% correct.

You asked for thoughts and I gave you my thoughts. If you can’t handle that, why do you ask?

I would appreciate your thoughts if you would include a valid argument as to why you think I am wrong or whatever instead of doing a drive by. But hey, if that's all ya got then whatever.

You don’t think they beat Eden Prairie or Hill-Murray. The rest of us recognize OT wins.

[HappyHockeyFan]

I guess your rankings are about 90% correct.

You asked for thoughts and I gave you my thoughts. If you can’t handle that, why do you ask?

I would appreciate your thoughts if you would include a valid argument as to why you think I am wrong or whatever instead of doing a drive by. But hey, if that's all ya got then whatever.

You don’t think they beat Eden Prairie or Hill-Murray. The rest of us recognize OT wins.

Ok, give them the EP win, that still only makes them 2-6 against ranked teams, and Hill isn't ranked. I think coming into the season it was thought that ER was going to be a top team, it hasn't panned out that way but some people don't seem to want to let that idea go. But the proof is in the pudding, results, they are a good team but not a top team.

[Traxler]

People didn’t give ER the 3 seed. A computer ranking system did.

[green4]

I would appreciate your thoughts if you would include a valid argument as to why you think I am wrong or whatever instead of doing a drive by. But hey, if that's all ya got then whatever.

You don’t think they beat Eden Prairie or Hill-Murray. The rest of us recognize OT wins.

Ok, give them the EP win, that still only makes them 2-6 against ranked teams, and Hill isn't ranked. I think coming into the season it was thought that ER was going to be a top team, it hasn't panned out that way but some people don't seem to want to let that idea go. But the proof is in the pudding, results, they are a good team but not a top team.

Hill-Murray is ranked 20th in the rankings this week

In a more serious note, you should give more context to your numbers. Just tossing out random numbers gives no context if I don't know the value of the number. Maybe list out the numbers for all the teams in section 7AA so I can understand it better

[O-townClown]

Well you can say what you want about my rankings but Elk River has earned considerable less points than Cloquet and Duluth Marshall:

Since you know so much more than everyone else you'll no doubt clean up in the Pick 6 and state tourney pick 'em.

[HappyHockeyFan]

You don’t think they beat Eden Prairie or Hill-Murray. The rest of us recognize OT wins.

Ok, give them the EP win, that still only makes them 2-6 against ranked teams, and Hill isn't ranked. I think coming into the season it was thought that ER was going to be a top team, it hasn't panned out that way but some people don't seem to want to let that idea go. But the proof is in the pudding, results, they are a good team but not a top team.

Hill-Murray is ranked 20th in the rankings this week

In a more serious note, you should give more context to your numbers. Just tossing out random numbers gives no context if I don't know the value of the number. Maybe list out the numbers for all the teams in section 7AA so I can understand it better

Well, I use LPH and their rankings don't come out until Tuesday, so... And here are your requested numbers for all of section 7 as my formula has it:

Duluth East - 323.5
Andover - 221
Cloquet-Esko - 215.5
Duluth Marshall - 175.5
Elk River - 131
Forest Lake - 130
St Francis - 67.5
Grand Rapids - 63
Cambridge-Isanti - 12

[HappyHockeyFan]

Well you can say what you want about my rankings but Elk River has earned considerable less points than Cloquet and Duluth Marshall:

Since you know so much more than everyone else you'll no doubt clean up in the Pick 6 and state tourney pick 'em.

That's why I don't play, give everybody else a chance!

[CB00]

Quote from Happy
If you want to argue ER over Duluth Marshall, maybe, but over Cloquet?? No way. I wont be a bit surprised if ER loses to Forest Lake, but hey, you wanna love on ER and the "Other" rankings, go for it. All I can say about ER is ... "Over Rated"

Might want to take another math class and adjust your system.