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Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by The Exiled One » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:34 pm

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Class Pos Player                HS Team              New Team           College
So    F   Jimmy Snuggerud       Chaska               USNTDP
So    F   Charlie Stramel       Rosemount            USNTDP
Jr    F   Nick Pierre           Hill-Murray          Sioux City-USHL    Wisconsin
Jr    F   Trey Fechko           Holy Family          Madison-USHL       Arizona State

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by BP » Wed May 20, 2020 10:19 am

Looks like you can add Sr D Jon Bell of SCC and Sr D Chase Beacom of Kennedy to the list. Both tendered with Bismarck for next year.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by The Exiled One » Thu May 28, 2020 10:52 am

Good chance that both will leave their HS teams, but lots of kids tender with the NAHL and end up back in HS. I'll keep an eye on both of them, but I won't add them until we see how things shake out. §

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:07 pm

Guessing he will be early depart at Green Bay, but......

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by O-townClown » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:52 pm

Boy does Chris McAlpine come across like a class act. Minnesota agents are all great dudes. Toronto guys are cut from a different cloth.
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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:15 pm

OTC . Considering the uncertainties of high school and mshsl season , Do you have a list you want to share of greater than 50% Likely early departures?

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by Section 8 guy » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:00 am

Be interesting to see how it plays out. Not sure if I’m interpreting your comment right WestMetro......but are the odds higher that the high school season will happen.....or are the odds higher that the junior hockey season will happen?

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by InThePipes » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:31 am

Section 8 guy wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:00 am
Be interesting to see how it plays out. Not sure if I’m interpreting your comment right WestMetro......but are the odds higher that the high school season will happen.....or are the odds higher that the junior hockey season will happen?
I personally think it's a toss-up. The junior season may go by the wayside from a financial perspective if they aren't allowed to generate any gate revenue due to policies prohibiting fans attending at any capacity level. Therefore the owners may choose to take a season off in an effort to mitigate financial losses. The MN high school season could go by the wayside due to the MN government's and department of education's decision making process.

If I had a put $ on one side or the other, I'd say the junior season has higher likelihood of occurring based on recent history.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:03 am

Just talked to one NAHL parent who says kids summer camp will start on schedule Monday the 11th

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by goldy313 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:16 am

It is likely some junior teams in certain states will play. Iowa, South Dakota, and Wisconsin are allowing more than Minnesota and Illinois. Then you have local mask rules...exemptions are garbage. Minneapolis has a mask rule but the Twins are given an exemption. Not the townball teams playing the same game...... as stated before I think some owners will close up shop this season.

The Saints and the Northwoods league baseball show even within leagues things will be dependent on local rules.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:14 pm

Will be interesting to see if Miller and Ratzlaff are at the Summer Festival next weekend.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by blueblood » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:48 pm

WM:

At least one will not be there
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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:52 pm

Exiled One- looks like you can take off Fechko , as he will be transfer to Edina , on elite league roster

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by BP » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:25 pm

You can add Calvin Hanson (Kittson Central) - U18 Northstar Academy.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by BSUBeaver » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:17 pm

Just realized I posted this over in last year's thread.

Alexandria senior Joe Westland will be leaving the Cardinals and transferring to the Northstar Christian Academy in Alex. He had 14 goals and 17 assists as a junior with the Cardinals.

The Knights also added three Alex players to their first year U16 team.

https://www.therinklive.com/high-school ... U16-roster

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:15 pm

Me too

Hearing we may have to add Hogg to early departure list . Can an Edina forum member confirm?

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by BP » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:06 pm

WestMetro wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:15 pm
Me too

Hearing we may have to add Hogg to early departure list . Can an Edina forum member confirm?
I'd venture to guess he is leaving. That league doesn't draft HS eligible kids that high unless they get confirmation that he would leave.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by InThePipes » Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:09 am

BP wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:06 pm
WestMetro wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:15 pm
Me too

Hearing we may have to add Hogg to early departure list . Can an Edina forum member confirm?
I'd venture to guess he is leaving. That league doesn't draft HS eligible kids that high unless they get confirmation that he would leave.
Always subject to change for a variety of reasons, but I've heard he's leaving.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by BP » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:54 am

Add Cody Croal (North Branch) - Northstar Academy.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by O-townClown » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:16 pm

One school of thought says it makes sense for players to leave HS teams for Junior hockey because the MSHSL could be quick to pull the trigger on the HS season. I think this is the majority viewpoint.

I've been on the other side saying Junior leagues may not be able to operate without fans. USHL & NAHL teams rely on gate. Today Corpus Christi announced they are taking this season off.

Lest anyone think the NCDC, which is supported by a tariff on all affiliated P2P Youth teams, provides a safe haven...the schedule came out and for now Massachusetts based teams are showing an undisclosed New Hampshire location for the site of home games. If Massachusetts remains shut down it will be hard for that league to operate.
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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by Wise Old Man » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:35 pm

O-townClown wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:16 pm
One school of thought says it makes sense for players to leave HS teams for Junior hockey because the MSHSL could be quick to pull the trigger on the HS season. I think this is the majority viewpoint.

I've been on the other side saying Junior leagues may not be able to operate without fans. USHL & NAHL teams rely on gate. Today Corpus Christi announced they are taking this season off.

Lest anyone think the NCDC, which is supported by a tariff on all affiliated P2P Youth teams, provides a safe haven...the schedule came out and for now Massachusetts based teams are showing an undisclosed New Hampshire location for the site of home games. If Massachusetts remains shut down it will be hard for that league to operate.
"O-town"... Personally, I agree with you that I find it difficult to believe that many of the Junior teams will be able to operate without the ability to have unlimited attendance each night. In case you haven't seen it, I posted in a different thread that a third-hand source that I trust indicated the NAHL had an emergency owners meeting last Monday and, although Frankenfeld (the commissioner) was adamant they would have a full season, apparently, the two Alaska teams and all of the Southern Division teams had indicated they were all likely to be taking the season off. Either due to limitations on number of fans allowed in the buildings or, the municipally owned buildings actually being closed due to Covid.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by BP » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:59 pm

Wise Old Man wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:35 pm
O-townClown wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:16 pm
One school of thought says it makes sense for players to leave HS teams for Junior hockey because the MSHSL could be quick to pull the trigger on the HS season. I think this is the majority viewpoint.

I've been on the other side saying Junior leagues may not be able to operate without fans. USHL & NAHL teams rely on gate. Today Corpus Christi announced they are taking this season off.

Lest anyone think the NCDC, which is supported by a tariff on all affiliated P2P Youth teams, provides a safe haven...the schedule came out and for now Massachusetts based teams are showing an undisclosed New Hampshire location for the site of home games. If Massachusetts remains shut down it will be hard for that league to operate.
"O-town"... Personally, I agree with you that I find it difficult to believe that many of the Junior teams will be able to operate without the ability to have unlimited attendance each night. In case you haven't seen it, I posted in a different thread that a third-hand source that I trust indicated the NAHL had an emergency owners meeting last Monday and, although Frankenfeld (the commissioner) was adamant they would have a full season, apparently, the two Alaska teams and all of the Southern Division teams had indicated they were all likely to be taking the season off. Either due to limitations on number of fans allowed in the buildings or, the municipally owned buildings actually being closed due to Covid.
Not entirely true - maybe the South might - but Fairbanks announced it will play in Marshall, MN until January 21st - with the hopes of going back to Fairbanks. Kenai River is doing the same - they are going to set up their team in Minnesota until at least Jan 1. Both could extend and stay in MN for duration of season.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by WestMetro » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:59 pm

Imho parents , kids and even leagues at this point are just protecting all their options all the way thru sept and Oct . In some cases kids protecting Juniors and HS Option, in others cases with Tier 1 and HS option, in other cases private leagues and HS . In some cases , more than 2 . And it won’t be too long before some will protect with a Minn Hockey option also

Some absolutely crazy Individual kid situations that would be impossible to believe in other years

Meanwhile rinks are open and kids playing hockey

And as I said in a different thread , there will be hockey this season , just a question of which leagues , who is sanctioning , and who ends up where . But I’m pretty sure there won’t be a 100,000 spectator Trny at the X in March

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by Wise Old Man » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:09 pm

BP wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:59 pm
Wise Old Man wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:35 pm
O-townClown wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:16 pm
One school of thought says it makes sense for players to leave HS teams for Junior hockey because the MSHSL could be quick to pull the trigger on the HS season. I think this is the majority viewpoint.

I've been on the other side saying Junior leagues may not be able to operate without fans. USHL & NAHL teams rely on gate. Today Corpus Christi announced they are taking this season off.

Lest anyone think the NCDC, which is supported by a tariff on all affiliated P2P Youth teams, provides a safe haven...the schedule came out and for now Massachusetts based teams are showing an undisclosed New Hampshire location for the site of home games. If Massachusetts remains shut down it will be hard for that league to operate.
"O-town"... Personally, I agree with you that I find it difficult to believe that many of the Junior teams will be able to operate without the ability to have unlimited attendance each night. In case you haven't seen it, I posted in a different thread that a third-hand source that I trust indicated the NAHL had an emergency owners meeting last Monday and, although Frankenfeld (the commissioner) was adamant they would have a full season, apparently, the two Alaska teams and all of the Southern Division teams had indicated they were all likely to be taking the season off. Either due to limitations on number of fans allowed in the buildings or, the municipally owned buildings actually being closed due to Covid.
Not entirely true - maybe the South might - but Fairbanks announced it will play in Marshall, MN until January 21st - with the hopes of going back to Fairbanks. Kenai River is doing the same - they are going to set up their team in Minnesota until at least Jan 1. Both could extend and stay in MN for duration of season.

"BP"...thanks for the update/correction. Good to hear they're going to try and give it a go.

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Re: Early Departures 2020-2021

Post by Wise Old Man » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:11 pm

WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:59 pm
Imho parents , kids and even leagues at this point are just protecting all their options all the way thru sept and Oct . In some cases kids protecting Juniors and HS Option, in others cases with Tier 1 and HS option, in other cases private leagues and HS . In some cases , more than 2 . And it won’t be too long before some will protect with a Minn Hockey option also

Some absolutely crazy Individual kid situations that would be impossible to believe in other years

Meanwhile rinks are open and kids playing hockey

And as I said in a different thread , there will be hockey this season , just a question of which leagues , who is sanctioning , and who ends up where . But I’m pretty sure there won’t be a 100,000 spectator Trny at the X in March

"West".... agree completely with you again. This is becoming a regular occurrence... :mrgreen:

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