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Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:51 pm
by kniven
Duluth East hosts CEC in Duluth tonight. Winner will host the 4/5 game? Winner possible 2 or 3 seed?

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:03 pm
by kniven
3,4,5 in question. 1,2 look pretty solidified..

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:05 pm
by east hockey
Is East a deserved #6 seed now? The only section win they have was against Marshall. Don't see them beating Cloquet on Monday. They're bringing pea shooters to 7AA gun fights :oops:

Lee

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:12 pm
by Edinahopkins
Grand Rapids with a big win against Wayzata should almost lock the two seed.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:33 pm
by north_bear
Edinahopkins wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:12 pm
Grand Rapids with a big win against Wayzata should almost lock the two seed.
I would think so too.

The shot counter heavily favored Wayzata but scoring chances favored Rapids, especially capitalizing on those chances: scored on a breakaway, scored after winning a puck race in wayzatas end while they were on a pp, scored on an odd man rush. I like how Rapids is playing, defense first approach and capitalize on chances. Clafton continues to be solid in net.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:47 pm
by InThePipes
north_bear wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:33 pm
Edinahopkins wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:12 pm
Grand Rapids with a big win against Wayzata should almost lock the two seed.
I would think so too.

The shot counter heavily favored Wayzata but scoring chances favored Rapids, especially capitalizing on those chances: scored on a breakaway, scored after winning a puck race in wayzatas end while they were on a pp, scored on an odd man rush. I like how Rapids is playing, defense first approach and capitalize on chances. Clafton continues to be solid in net.
This is the exact formula that can derail Andover, but Wayzata brings nowhere near the offensive pressure that Andover can, so I still think it's highly unlikely barring a heroic effort from Clafton and a handful of fortunate bounces going GR's direction.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:48 am
by northwoods oldtimer
east hockey wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:05 pm
Is East a deserved #6 seed now? The only section win they have was against Marshall. Don't see them beating Cloquet on Monday. They're bringing pea shooters to 7AA gun fights :oops:

Lee
Lee has an East ever finished that low in the section? I would speculate a no. #-o

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:54 am
by east hockey
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:48 am
east hockey wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:05 pm
Is East a deserved #6 seed now? The only section win they have was against Marshall. Don't see them beating Cloquet on Monday. They're bringing pea shooters to 7AA gun fights :oops:

Lee
Lee has an East ever finished that low in the section? I would speculate a no. #-o
The lowest I could find was a #5 seed in 1993

Lee

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:31 am
by grindiangrad-80
east hockey wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:54 am
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:48 am
east hockey wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:05 pm
Is East a deserved #6 seed now? The only section win they have was against Marshall. Don't see them beating Cloquet on Monday. They're bringing pea shooters to 7AA gun fights :oops:

Lee
Lee has an East ever finished that low in the section? I would speculate a no. #-o
The lowest I could find was a #5 seed in 1993

Lee
If that happens I would think it would setup the most intriguing 3 vs 6 quarterfinal in a long time.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:08 am
by east hockey
grindiangrad-80 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:31 am
east hockey wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:54 am
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:48 am

Lee has an East ever finished that low in the section? I would speculate a no. #-o
The lowest I could find was a #5 seed in 1993

Lee
If that happens I would think it would setup the most intriguing 3 vs 6 quarterfinal in a long time.
And you might prefer to be a #6 seed over a #5 seed, avoiding Andover in the semis :mrgreen:

Lee

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:03 pm
by kniven
east hockey wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:08 am
grindiangrad-80 wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:31 am
east hockey wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:54 am


The lowest I could find was a #5 seed in 1993

Lee
If that happens I would think it would setup the most intriguing 3 vs 6 quarterfinal in a long time.
And you might prefer to be a #6 seed over a #5 seed, avoiding Andover in the semis :mrgreen:

Lee
Interesting. And thusly setting up another game. Duluth East at Cloquet or at Grand Rapids. Elk is 20 points below East in QRF though.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:33 pm
by MWS coach
QRF makes no sense at all.... East losses to ER 5-0 yet goes up 4.8 point in QRF and is ahead of Jacks, whom actually have a winning record @ 12-9-1 vs East 7-10-1, in addition didn't Jacks beat Hounds in first match up? CRAZY.....

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:48 pm
by elliott70
Current (2-3-2020) QRF
No. 1 Andover (131.8)
No. 24 Grand Rapids (91.2)
No. 28 Forest Lake (87.4)
No. 35 Duluth East (80.5)
No. 38 C-E-C (77.8)
No. 48 Elk River/Zimmerman (62.4)
No. 61 Anoka (37.0)
No. 64 Duluth Marshall (30.9)

Seeding with tie breaker factors (current estimate is within 6 points).
1 Andover
2 Grand Rapids
3 Forest Lake
4 CEC
5 Duluth East
6 Elk River
7 Anoka
8 Duluth Marshall

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:07 pm
by Stang5280
For sake of comparison, here is how PageStat would have things. I left in all of the data to show how close the 4, 5, and 6 seeds would be.

# Team Section W L T PCT GF GA Rating
1 ANDOVER 7AA 18 3 1 0.841 118 30 22.46
25 GRAND RAPIDS 7AA 12 7 1 0.625 60 39 19.64
32 CLOQUET 7AA 12 9 1 0.568 89 56 19.11
40 DULUTH EAST 7AA 7 10 1 0.417 46 62 18.08
44 ELK RIVER 7AA 8 14 0 0.364 80 73 17.73
46 FOREST LAKE 7AA 12 6 3 0.643 62 51 17.67
108 ANOKA 7AA 3 16 1 0.175 32 94 13.6
121 DULUTH MARSHALL 7AA 3 18 0 0.143 28 117 12.3

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:15 pm
by kniven
That’s hilarious. Wow pagestat thinks Forest Lake is horrible 😯

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:49 pm
by blueblood
CEC gets trucked tonite.

It doesn't matter with PS2 thinks. QRF is the stat that matters and as of Feb 3rd:

FL is 3
DE is 4
CEC is 5

Looking like a DE vs. CEC QF matchup.....

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:54 pm
by kniven
blueblood wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:49 pm
CEC gets trucked tonite.

It doesn't matter with PS2 thinks. QRF is the stat that matters and as of Feb 3rd:

FL is 3
DE is 4
CEC is 5

Looking like a DE vs. CEC QF matchup.....
Agreed blood. What a nightmare....

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:31 pm
by mnseabass
DE was already at 4 on the QRF before the cloquet win, after tonight do they have any possibility for 3? Depends on how much QRF is valued and how much head to head is. They have certainly played the better then CEC and Flake outside 7AA...

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:34 pm
by Usthockey13
It’s gonna be tough unless they can somehow run the table and pass Flake by 6ish points in QRF ranking

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:58 pm
by kniven
Usthockey13 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:34 pm
It’s gonna be tough unless they can somehow run the table and pass Flake by 6ish points in QRF ranking
My purple have White Bear Lake and Rapids. I’m going to assume we lose them both. Not because I’m an Ahole, but because it’s easier for my nerves right now. And going to Duluth for the quarterfinals. 7AA playoffs are so difficult. We’ve never had much success. Since I’ve been around anyway. Langenbrunner’s come to Cloquet. Then they leave. I love my team. It’s just so difficult to compete year in and year out in this section. Congrads, Duluth East, on the win tonight. Very, very impressive.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:59 am
by Usthockey13
Knivy- agreed those will be two tough games as both teams have really good goaltenders. Them being home games help cec. I noticed last night seems like Walters is having some trouble with 7. Didn’t play as much as I’ve seen in the past and took a really bad penalty in the 3rd. Also wondering why he didn’t start Carlson?

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 am
by kniven
Coach Walters has been rotating goalies all year. Walters and Galatz are fine. It was a bad loss. It seems nobody is immune to bad losses this year.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:37 am
by elliott70
Cloquet currently is within the tie breaker points of DEast…
so the tiebreaker system will give
CEC the 4th spot and DEast the 5

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:03 pm
by InThePipes
kniven wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 am
Coach Walters has been rotating goalies all year. Walters and Galatz are fine. It was a bad loss. It seems nobody is immune to bad losses this year.
Looks like both tendies played last night. You're right, nobody is immune.

Re: 7AA 2019-2020

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:20 pm
by kniven
elliott70 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:37 am
Cloquet currently is within the tie breaker points of DEast…
so the tiebreaker system will give
CEC the 4th spot and DEast the 5
For now. We have 2 games left in the last 8 days of the season. And East has 5 games in 8 days. A lot can change between now and then.