Duluth East at Elk River - Top Seed Championship, Feb 4 3:00

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Post by hockey59 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:58 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
hockey59 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:Ok, let's play. Karl can you give us the all time time series stuff when you get a chance?
East leads the all-time series 17-15-1, though they are 8-1-1 in the last ten and 8-1 in sections (7 of those in the last 8 years). As noted last year, it's been a very streaky rivalry, with the Elks winning the early 90s games, East taking over in the mid-90s, the Elks going on a long run of success from 99 to the mid-00s, and East owning ever since.

The top lines should match up well; the Elks have the more prolific 2nd line, but East's 3rd line is more productive than ER's. ER has those two senior D-I defensemen, but East is deeper on the blueprint e line, rolling 6 D comfortably. So, I'd guess this came will come down to:

1. Goaltending
2. Coaching (biggest test to date for the new ER staff)
3. The mental game...ER can't have the wheels fall off like they did at Amsoil last year.

Looking forward to the road trip down. :)
I think winning this game is crucial for ER, more so than for DE, considering ER's unfortunate run of luck at Amsoil the past 5 years. ER beat Blaine 5-3 Thursday, but Jax Murray was pointless, which leads me to believe he still has some type of health issue, because when healthy he's the best finisher on their team. Now I differ with Karl in that having 2 D1 committed Senior D makes you the stronger team on the blue line, although I do think Lamaster & Paine are a strong pairing. This DE team lacks SENIOR stars, except perhaps Meirhoff, and that's a factor in these type of games and in sections. ER is a veteran team with Horn, Michelas & Murray all being seniors and a D1 committed soph in JP. So playing at home I'll give the edge to ER as long as their goalie (likely Meyers) has a strong game between the pipes.
where does Karl give the edge on D to ER??
He didn't, I read it as him saying it's a wash.

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Post by hockey59 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:15 pm

east hockey wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:They probably will tie.
I think Elk River will take the Hounds in this one. Should be a packed house for this one. Coach Randolph will have Duluth East well prepared though.
Heard he has been focusing on Superior most of the week. Just saying.
I was a little concerned about East playing Superior last night, thinking the Hounds would be looking past that game. 8-1 East. Guess not. :)

Elks by 3.

Lee
I was at the game and the Spartans held the puck way too long as if they were still playing a WI team (like New Richmond) tried to carry the puck and got stripped and got pinned in their zone by DE forechecking. In a word, it was ugly, but next year they will be much improved as they have a ton of sophomores & juniors getting experience this year.

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Post by kniven » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:37 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
east hockey wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:They probably will tie.
I think Elk River will take the Hounds in this one. Should be a packed house for this one. Coach Randolph will have Duluth East well prepared though.
Heard he has been focusing on Superior most of the week. Just saying.
I was a little concerned about East playing Superior last night, thinking the Hounds would be looking past that game. 8-1 East. Guess not. :)

Elks by 3.

Lee
when did soup town get so bad?
There just having a down year. They actually won the state championship in Wisconsin last year. Teams not called Duluth East and Hermantown have to rebuild. Just reloaded every year is uncommon for non-metro teams.

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Post by kniven » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:39 pm

kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
east hockey wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:They probably will tie.
I think Elk River will take the Hounds in this one. Should be a packed house for this one. Coach Randolph will have Duluth East well prepared though.
Heard he has been focusing on Superior most of the week. Just saying.
I was a little concerned about East playing Superior last night, thinking the Hounds would be looking past that game. 8-1 East. Guess not. :)

Elks by 3.

Lee
when did soup town get so bad?
There just having a down year. They actually won the state championship in Wisconsin last year. Teams not called Duluth East and Hermantown have to rebuild. Just reloading every year is uncommon for non-metro teams.

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Post by Jeffy95 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:45 pm

kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
east hockey wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:They probably will tie.
I think Elk River will take the Hounds in this one. Should be a packed house for this one. Coach Randolph will have Duluth East well prepared though.
Heard he has been focusing on Superior most of the week. Just saying.
I was a little concerned about East playing Superior last night, thinking the Hounds would be looking past that game. 8-1 East. Guess not. :)

Elks by 3.

Lee
when did soup town get so bad?
There just having a down year. They actually won the state championship in Wisconsin last year. Teams not called Duluth East and Hermantown have to rebuild. Just reloaded every year is uncommon for non-metro teams.
Their days of dominating WI High School Hockey are probably over after they made the age change this year to USA hockey cutoffs. The reason they were so good is they grew up battling MN teams on even terms. Now they're getting squashed by them. And instead of having their 9th graders battling MN Bantam A and AA teams, now they're going to be stuck in the JV wasteland. I realize they want to play youth playoffs in WI so not saying it's a bad choice, but it will negatively affect their High School team moving forward. They do have a really good crop of 03's and 04's coming up though, if they don't end up at Hermantown or Marshall.

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Post by east hockey » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:09 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
east hockey wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:They probably will tie.
I think Elk River will take the Hounds in this one. Should be a packed house for this one. Coach Randolph will have Duluth East well prepared though.
Heard he has been focusing on Superior most of the week. Just saying.
I was a little concerned about East playing Superior last night, thinking the Hounds would be looking past that game. 8-1 East. Guess not. :)

Elks by 3.

Lee
when did soup town get so bad?
They're not really that bad, being ranked #10 in Wisconsin. Not nearly the best or worst team Superior has had. The SOG were relatively close, but East made the best of their chances and limited the Spartans.

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Post by alcloseshaver » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:36 am

hockey59 wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
hockey59 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:Ok, let's play. Karl can you give us the all time time series stuff when you get a chance?
East leads the all-time series 17-15-1, though they are 8-1-1 in the last ten and 8-1 in sections (7 of those in the last 8 years). As noted last year, it's been a very streaky rivalry, with the Elks winning the early 90s games, East taking over in the mid-90s, the Elks going on a long run of success from 99 to the mid-00s, and East owning ever since.

The top lines should match up well; the Elks have the more prolific 2nd line, but East's 3rd line is more productive than ER's. ER has those two senior D-I defensemen, but East is deeper on the blueprint e line, rolling 6 D comfortably. So, I'd guess this came will come down to:

1. Goaltending
2. Coaching (biggest test to date for the new ER staff)
3. The mental game...ER can't have the wheels fall off like they did at Amsoil last year.

Looking forward to the road trip down. :)
I think winning this game is crucial for ER, more so than for DE, considering ER's unfortunate run of luck at Amsoil the past 5 years. ER beat Blaine 5-3 Thursday, but Jax Murray was pointless, which leads me to believe he still has some type of health issue, because when healthy he's the best finisher on their team. Now I differ with Karl in that having 2 D1 committed Senior D makes you the stronger team on the blue line, although I do think Lamaster & Paine are a strong pairing. This DE team lacks SENIOR stars, except perhaps Meirhoff, and that's a factor in these type of games and in sections. ER is a veteran team with Horn, Michelas & Murray all being seniors and a D1 committed soph in JP. So playing at home I'll give the edge to ER as long as their goalie (likely Meyers) has a strong game between the pipes.
where does Karl give the edge on D to ER??
He didn't, I read it as him saying it's a wash.
"now I differ"...

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Post by Slammer » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:20 pm

Arena is half empty. Very embarrassing showing for the Elk River Community- one of the top games of the year. Not sure if ER has that kind of support that helps propel players to get to state.

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Post by Jeffy95 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:53 pm

Slammer wrote:Arena is half empty. Very embarrassing showing for the Elk River Community- one of the top games of the year. Not sure if ER has that kind of support that helps propel players to get to state.
It's Saturday afternoon. Youth teams are probably all playing somewhere.

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Post by elliott70 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:57 pm

Slammer wrote:Arena is half empty. Very embarrassing showing for the Elk River Community- one of the top games of the year. Not sure if ER has that kind of support that helps propel players to get to state.
Maybe half full......

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Post by hockey59 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:59 pm

Score after one period?

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Post by CB00 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:09 pm

Elliott, not sure what rink you were at. Arena full, standing room. . 4-1 ER final. Hounds not in the game. Outclassed today.

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Post by elliott70 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:22 pm

CB00 wrote:Elliott, not sure what rink you were at. Arena full, standing room. . 4-1 ER final. Hounds not in the game. Outclassed today.
Not there.
Previous post said half empty, I put it in a different perspective.

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Post by alcloseshaver » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:29 pm

Biggest crowd in years.

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Post by sanryam » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:30 pm

Slammer wrote:Arena is half empty. Very embarrassing showing for the Elk River Community- one of the top games of the year. Not sure if ER has that kind of support that helps propel players to get to state.
Not sure what game you were at. Bleachers were full as was the railing. Only section that wasn't full was visitors.

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Post by mulefarm » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:33 pm

Who won the JV game?

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Post by CB00 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:47 pm

ER 4 East 1 Both Varsity and JV

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Post by MWS coach » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:53 pm

mulefarm wrote:Who won the JV game?
ER 4-1 with EN

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Post by MWS coach » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:54 pm

N Perbix was best player on the ice today

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Post by hermantown2000 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:21 pm

Impressive win by the Elks but can they beat the Greyhounds when it matters most at Amsoil in several weeks? You know Randolph will have his team ready come playoff time.

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Post by alcloseshaver » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:38 pm

hermantown2000 wrote:Impressive win by the Elks but can they beat the Greyhounds when it matters most at Amsoil in several weeks? You know Randolph will have his team ready come playoff time.
this was a playoff type game, 1 seed is a big deal this year.

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Post by kniven » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:26 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
hermantown2000 wrote:Impressive win by the Elks but can they beat the Greyhounds when it matters most at Amsoil in several weeks? You know Randolph will have his team ready come playoff time.
this was a playoff type game, 1 seed is a big deal this year.
Why is that?

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Post by Slammer » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:44 pm

No doubt, the Elks looked good today. They have enough weapons to make a run.

But... Unfortunately, I can't believe they will come out of the section until they do. Until Mike Randolph retires, East will always be the favorite. That's just the way she goes.

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Post by WarmUpTheBus » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:12 pm

MWS coach wrote:N Perbix was best player on the ice today
I was at the game. Big crowd with a pretty good Duluth contingent. Nick Perbix is a Mr Hockey finalist IHO and before anyone jumps on my case I believe CM will win Mr Hockey and rightly so
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Post by Jeffy95 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:26 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:
hermantown2000 wrote:Impressive win by the Elks but can they beat the Greyhounds when it matters most at Amsoil in several weeks? You know Randolph will have his team ready come playoff time.
this was a playoff type game, 1 seed is a big deal this year.
We've seen this movie too many times before. You can't take anything away from an East regular season game. They mean nothing.

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