1) CDH
2) east view
3) st. Thomas
4) Eagan
5) Hastings
6) Rosemount
7) east ridge

9) Apple valley
10) cottage Grove
Tough to way the different schedule strengths
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karl's latest thoughts on this topic are worth reposting here:Gotothenetman wrote:How does this section seeding go?
At this point, I'm not so certain that Eastview is a lock for fourth seed if they lose to Eagan (as much as I might wish it so). That would give them a regular series split (with Lightening winning on "neutral" TCF outdoor ice), and right now EV has both a better overall record and a better section record (and whatever tip of the hat is earned by having won this section last year). Of course, Eagan would gain some talking points if they beat both Eastview and the top-ranked LN (at Ames) in the final two weeks.3AA
13 Eastview
(17) Cretin-Derham Hall
12 St. Thomas Academy
(18) Eagan
-Perhaps the most confusing section I have ever seen. The top four are close enough for head-to-head results to matter, and Eastview and Cretin are both unbeaten in the section. The question then becomes whether Cretin’s win over St. Thomas is enough to make up for their otherwise weaker regular season; they have two questionable losses and two questionable ties, while Eastview only has one poor loss and that came early in the season. Since Eastview has some quality wins, too, I’m going with the Lightning, though I’d understand if the coaches voted otherwise. If they do think Cretin deserves the top spot, Eastview should probably drop to #3 behind St. Thomas. There’s also the matter of the Eastview-Eagan game on Feb. 11; the loser is almost certainly #4, while an Eastview win would help their cause for #1, and an Eagan win would get them up to #3. An upset loss for any of these teams over the next two weeks could have a real impact, too. Barring a number of upsets, this section is unlikely to have a team seeded at State, no matter who wins.
Before the end of the year?? Very very unlikely. For next year, would not be surprised given the dwindling Wildcat stable of horses. I am sure someone closer to the Cats has "Almost" the whole "Happy" story?Hockey922 wrote:I heard news that eagans goalie, Andrew Lindgren is leaving early for juniors? Can anyone confirm this?
East Ridge will most likely get the 5th, then maybe Rosemount will be 6th and Hastings at 7 and the rest are in order.Gotothenetman wrote:How does this section seeding go? Lots of different levels of games and mixed conference schedules. Teams beating good teams losing to weaker teams. What do you think?
1) CDH
2) east view
3) st. Thomas
4) Eagan
5) Hastings
6) Rosemount
7) east ridge
woodbury
9) Apple valley
10) cottage Grove
Tough to way the different schedule strengths
Don't know, and wouldn't comment one way or the other if I did.OneMoreYear wrote:Before the end of the year?? Very very unlikely. For next year, would not be surprised given the dwindling Wildcat stable of horses. I am sure someone closer to the Cats has "Almost" the whole "Happy" story?Hockey922 wrote:I heard news that eagans goalie, Andrew Lindgren is leaving early for juniors? Can anyone confirm this?
I thought the goal was 5 paragraphs or more...almostashappy wrote: And now that he's posted his A rankings for the week, I'm certain that HSHW will be quick to explain why STAA deserves to be wherever he thinks they deserve to be. The only question is whether he can provide that explanation in 5 paragraphs or less.
It's a bad loss, sure, and gives Eastview the #1 seed in my book (as of today). But CDH (15-5-1) still has a better overall record than STA and Eagan, and beat both teams head-to-head. I doubt that "trending" is given more consideration at the seeding meeting than either of those two factors.Tenoverpar wrote:Well ROSEVILLE blew CDH's doors off last night...so I can't see CDH being seeded any higher than 3rd..the last few weeks haven't been a great sign that their trending in the right direction. (losses to Roseville and Stillwater and struggling to a 1-1 tie with Mounds View)
I would not be super surprised to see WBL knock off Hill. Hill is not as good as advertised in my opinion.Tenoverpar wrote:4AA is going to be a bigger dogfight than anyone thinks...I know everyone is all HILL HILL HILL wide margin WBL wide margin...everyone else, but I think Roseville and STillwater will both be tough outs...other than section 1AA that is going to be a smearfest with North walking through everone..I'm thinking every other section is completely up for grabs and there are going to be a few surprises....playoffs, yes, we're talkin' playoffs!
I'd disagree about Cretin having a tougher schedule than Eastview. Using this past week's rankings, I have EV playing 4 teams in the top 10 and 4 in the 11-20 range, while CDH plays 3 in the top 10 and 4 in the 11-20 range. And while the SEC might have a little more parity, the SSC as a whole is a stronger conference. At best it's a wash, probably with a slight edge to Eastview, and PS2 would back me up on that.Nuts&Bolts wrote:7AA is the biggest cluster for seeding IMO followed by:
3AA
5AA
4AA
6AA
2AA*
8AA
1AA
A 1st round bye is still in play in 2AA with the clear edge going to Edina. The bye is big with only 7 teams in the section. Does the MSHSL make a off cycle change this spring and move a team like Hastings from 3AA to 2AA to get 3AA down to 9 teams from the current field of 10?
With 3AA if CDH wins out it seems they should be the #1 seed. Unblemished section record, beat STAA, and they have a stronger schedule than EV. If CDH falters and EV wins out convincingly they are the likely #1 seed. Should CDH get the 1 and Almost's Eagan team beats EV the Lightening probably slip to 4 with Eagan at 3 and STAA at 2. East Ridge seems positioned for the 5 seed. Like many I don't mind Almost joining Karl's approach to pair the publics against the privates in the semi finals should they win in the QFs but the most likely scenario for this happening is if CDH and EV both tank and STA gets the 1 seed and CDH falls to 4.
Hastings can't be moved into 2AA unless the MSHSL violates it's own rules about compact, contiguous section boundaries. Apple Valley should be the one to go (furthest west in 3AA). CDH is the next best fit.Nuts&Bolts wrote:7AA is the biggest cluster for seeding IMO followed by:
3AA
5AA
4AA
6AA
2AA*
8AA
1AA
A 1st round bye is still in play in 2AA with the clear edge going to Edina. The bye is big with only 7 teams in the section. Does the MSHSL make a off cycle change this spring and move a team like Hastings from 3AA to 2AA to get 3AA down to 9 teams from the current field of 10?
With 3AA if CDH wins out it seems they should be the #1 seed. Unblemished section record, beat STAA, and they have a stronger schedule than EV. If CDH falters and EV wins out convincingly they are the likely #1 seed. Should CDH get the 1 and Almost's Eagan team beats EV the Lightening probably slip to 4 with Eagan at 3 and STAA at 2. East Ridge seems positioned for the 5 seed. Like many I don't mind Almost joining Karl's approach to pair the publics against the privates in the semi finals should they win in the QFs but the most likely scenario for this happening is if CDH and EV both tank and STA gets the 1 seed and CDH falls to 4.
It should mean nothing for seeding 1 - 4.Hockey922 wrote:With Eastview tying rosemount and CDH beating east ridge (going undefeated in section play), what does this mean for seeding?
Could it perhaps impact 1-4 in that an Eagan win over Eastview next week pushes them ahead of Eastview? Rosemount vs. Woodbury game is big, too, in that a win vs. Woodbury does give Rosemount good argument for 5.almostashappy wrote:It should mean nothing for seeding 1 - 4.Hockey922 wrote:With Eastview tying rosemount and CDH beating east ridge (going undefeated in section play), what does this mean for seeding?
We heard this same argument last year, and looked what happened. Being undefeated in section play would mean more if CDH played more of the SSC teams in the section. And, of course, if CDH hadn't been stumbling a bit over the past stretch of games.
On the other hand, Rosemount might have a stronger argument that it deserves the #5 seed instead of East Ridge.
An Eagan win could push CDH ahead of Eastview, but after the Raider's less-than-stellar week I would suggest that they'd need to win at least one of their games this week (against BSM or WBL) and not lose badly in the other if they want top seed. Lose both, and CDH limps into sections going 1-3-1 in last 5 games. Not exactly top seed pedigree.Simpleton wrote: Could it perhaps impact 1-4 in that an Eagan win over Eastview next week pushes them ahead of Eastview? Rosemount vs. Woodbury game is big, too, in that a win vs. Woodbury does give Rosemount good argument for 5.