Section 6A 2022-23

[ClassAGuy]

Section 6A Rankings (1/29/23)
1- Wadena Deer Creek (11-4-1)
2- Alexandria (7-10-1)
3- Fergus Falls (9-7-1)
4- Northern Lakes (5-12-0)
5- Morris Benson (9-7-0)
6- Willmar (7-10-0)
7- Prairie Centre (5-12-0)
8- Breckenridge/Wahpeton (1-16-0)

Section 6A Outlook- Wadena Deer Creek stayed unbeaten in 6A and still holds the 1 seed for now. Alexandria picked up a 6A win over Willmar. The Cardinals did rebound to beat Prairie Center for an important 6A head to head win. Fergus Falls went (1-2-0) in non 6A action and Morris/Benson got a win in non 6A action. Breckenridge/Wahpeton picked up its first win in over two years!

[BSUBeaver]

QRF Ranking

Wadena-Deer Creek 59.6 18
Fergus Falls 58.9 20
Alexandria 52.2 31
Morris/Benson Area 43.1 43
Willmar 34.7 61
Northern Lakes 33.7 62
Prairie Centre Area 32.6 63
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 21.3 72

LSQ Rankings

Alexandria 1011.2011
Fergus Falls 1010.5297
Wadena-Deer Creek 1009.3413
Northern Lakes 1008.5867
Morris/Benson 1006.3497
Prairie Centre 1005.4397
Willmar 1004.8825
Breck/Wahp 1002.0430

PageStat

ALEXANDRIA 15.80
FERGUS FALLS 15.09
WADENA 13.97
NORTHERN LAKES 13.15
MORRIS/BENSON 11.30
PRAIRIE CENTRE 10.45
WILLMAR 10.01
BRECKENRIDGE 7.30

[ClassAGuy]

QRF Ranking

Wadena-Deer Creek 59.6 18
Fergus Falls 58.9 20
Alexandria 52.2 31
Morris/Benson Area 43.1 43
Willmar 34.7 61
Northern Lakes 33.7 62
Prairie Centre Area 32.6 63
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 21.3 72

LSQ Rankings

Alexandria 1011.2011
Fergus Falls 1010.5297
Wadena-Deer Creek 1009.3413
Northern Lakes 1008.5867
Morris/Benson 1006.3497
Prairie Centre 1005.4397
Willmar 1004.8825
Breck/Wahp 1002.0430

PageStat

ALEXANDRIA 15.80
FERGUS FALLS 15.09
WADENA 13.97
NORTHERN LAKES 13.15
MORRIS/BENSON 11.30
PRAIRIE CENTRE 10.45
WILLMAR 10.01
BRECKENRIDGE 7.30

Seeds will be settled by next week after Fergus and Alex play a 2nd time.
Fergus plays WDC this week and WDC plays Nothern Lakes a 2nd time

By my Feb 12th Ranking we will have a pretty clear picture

My best guess with how teams are playing it ends up
1 Alex
2 Fergus
3 Northern Lakes
4 WDC
5 Morris Benson
6 Willmar
7 Praire Centre
8 Breckenridge

[ClassAGuy]

Section 6A Week #11 Scores

Monday January 30
Fergus Falls 4 Willmar 0

Tuesday January 31
Becker Big Lake 6 Prairie Centre 5 OT
Fergus Falls 8 Willmar 0
Detroit Lakes 14 Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1
Morris/Benson Area 6 Wadena Deer Creek 5
Alexandria 3 Little Falls 2 OT

Thursday February 2nd
Morris Benson 4 Prairie Centre 0
Northern Lakes 7 Wadena Deer Creek 2

Friday February 3rd
River Lakes 6 Prairie Centre 2

Saturday February 4th
Little Falls 6 Northern Lakes 4
Fergus Falls 7 Wadena Deer Creek 3
Duluth Denfeld 5 Alexandria 4
Luverne 7 Morris Benson 4
Willmar 7 Redwood Valley 0
Worthington 7 Breckenridge/Wahpeton 2

[BSUBeaver]

QRF 02/01/2023

Fergus Falls 63.7
Wadena-Deer Creek 59.2
Alexandria 57.8
Morris/Benson Area 47.4
Willmar 35.2
Northern Lakes 34.9
Prairie Centre Area 32.8
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 22.4

[ClassAGuy]

QRF 02/01/2023

Fergus Falls 63.7
Wadena-Deer Creek 59.2
Alexandria 57.8
Morris/Benson Area 47.4
Willmar 35.2
Northern Lakes 34.9
Prairie Centre Area 32.8
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 22.4

QRF is a terrible Hockey computer ranking

WDC had legit chance at the #1 seed however they could be the #5 seed by the end of the week. Crazy fall for them

[BSUBeaver]

QRF 02/01/2023

Fergus Falls 63.7
Wadena-Deer Creek 59.2
Alexandria 57.8
Morris/Benson Area 47.4
Willmar 35.2
Northern Lakes 34.9
Prairie Centre Area 32.8
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 22.4

QRF is a terrible Hockey computer ranking

WDC had legit chance at the #1 seed however they could be the #5 seed by the end of the week. Crazy fall for them

I know QRF has its flaws, but it is the only ranking that updates after every gameday. So, it does give us some perspective on things.

And Northern Lakes is in a funk right now as well, having lost five in a row. On the plus side, of those five the only head scratcher is the shutout loss to Park Rapids.

[ClassAGuy]

Section 6A PageStat (1/31/23)
1 ALEXANDRIA
2 FERGUS FALLS
3 WADENA
4 NORTHERN LAKES
5 MORRIS/BENSON
6 PRAIRIE CENTRE
7 WILLMAR
8 BRECKENRIDGE

[BSUBeaver]

Section 6A PageStat (1/31/23)
1 ALEXANDRIA
2 FERGUS FALLS
3 WADENA
4 NORTHERN LAKES
5 MORRIS/BENSON
6 PRAIRIE CENTRE
7 WILLMAR
8 BRECKENRIDGE

Thanks, I didn't realize PageStat did as well.

[ClassAGuy]

Section 6A PageStat (1/31/23)
1 ALEXANDRIA
2 FERGUS FALLS
3 WADENA
4 NORTHERN LAKES
5 MORRIS/BENSON
6 PRAIRIE CENTRE
7 WILLMAR
8 BRECKENRIDGE

Thanks, I didn't realize PageStat did as well.

Just such a better computer ranking then QRF

Morris/Benson is hot right now (9-1-0) in last 10 games.... Alex (7-1-1) in last 9 games,.... Fergus has won 3 in a row now... 6A heating up a bit

[BSUBeaver]

After 02/02/2022 Games

LSQ Rankings

Alexandria 1011.5525
Fergus Falls 1010.9381
Northern Lakes 1009.1822
Wadena-Deer Creek 1009.0199
Morris/Benson 1006.8453
Prairie Centre 1005.4266
Willmar 1005.0844
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 1002.4124

[BSUBeaver]

Watched the Little Falls/Alexandria game online on Tuesday night. Jamie Pettit made a comment that Little Falls should still be in Section 6, which I kind of agree with. So, it got me thinking with the next two year cycle for section alignment coming up, what if the Class A teams of the District 15 for youth hockey made up Section 6? Here is what it would look like:

Alexandria
Morris/Benson
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Little Falls
Prairie Centre
Northern Lakes
Park Rapids
Wadena-Deer Creek
Breckenridge/Wahpeton (have to throw them in as they play ND youth hockey, but MSHSL at the high school level)

I thought 10 might be kind of big, but looking at current section set ups:
1-10 teams
2-11 teams
3-10 teams
4-8 teams
5-10 teams
6-8 teams
7-10 teams
8-10 teams

Little Falls would come from Section 5, Detroit Lake and Park Rapids from Section 8. Willmar would need to find a new home (Section 3 or 5). The other kicker is where the enrollment cut off will fall in regards to Alexandria.

[ClassAGuy]

Watched the Little Falls/Alexandria game online on Tuesday night. Jamie Pettit made a comment that Little Falls should still be in Section 6, which I kind of agree with. So, it got me thinking with the next two year cycle for section alignment coming up, what if the Class A teams of the District 15 for youth hockey made up Section 6? Here is what it would look like:

Alexandria
Morris/Benson
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Little Falls
Prairie Centre
Northern Lakes
Park Rapids
Wadena-Deer Creek
Breckenridge/Wahpeton (have to throw them in as they play ND youth hockey, but MSHSL at the high school level)

I thought 10 might be kind of big, but looking at current section set ups:
1-10 teams
2-11 teams
3-10 teams
4-8 teams
5-10 teams
6-8 teams
7-10 teams
8-10 teams

Little Falls would come from Section 5, Detroit Lake and Park Rapids from Section 8. Willmar would need to find a new home (Section 3 or 5). The other kicker is where the enrollment cut off will fall in regards to Alexandria.

Nailed it BSU

However, looking at the map the MSHSL uses and how they want 10 teams per section. DL will stay in 8A there is just nobody else up in NW MN in CLass A to fill up there 10. MSHSL had two schools listed in 6A last time (Herman I think and one other as having hockey) which gave them 10 teams in 6A originally when they did the computer map... Why i hate computer making maps that could have been adjusted its how you got 8 teams in 6A when the two schools listed in the map didnt have hockey actually.

4A had St Francis and North Branch for 10 and then they suddenly folded into a Co-opt and went to 7AA Northern Edge. MSHSL Map wants to make 8 geographic same number teams sections. Problem is then teams petition and opt down or they co-opt and go up or like in 6A the MSHSL has bad data when the map is made and 2 teams get listed that are not hockey schools and you get the super small and weak 6A we had this 2 year cycle.

Your Section list looks great but knowing DL is always the 10th team to pulled up to NW Section 8 by the computer I would have your list but with River Lakes in and DL out is what I see happening in the next change this spring

[Corn Cobb]

Watched the Little Falls/Alexandria game online on Tuesday night. Jamie Pettit made a comment that Little Falls should still be in Section 6, which I kind of agree with. So, it got me thinking with the next two year cycle for section alignment coming up, what if the Class A teams of the District 15 for youth hockey made up Section 6? Here is what it would look like:

Alexandria
Morris/Benson
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Little Falls
Prairie Centre
Northern Lakes
Park Rapids
Wadena-Deer Creek
Breckenridge/Wahpeton (have to throw them in as they play ND youth hockey, but MSHSL at the high school level)

I thought 10 might be kind of big, but looking at current section set ups:
1-10 teams
2-11 teams
3-10 teams
4-8 teams
5-10 teams
6-8 teams
7-10 teams
8-10 teams

Little Falls would come from Section 5, Detroit Lake and Park Rapids from Section 8. Willmar would need to find a new home (Section 3 or 5). The other kicker is where the enrollment cut off will fall in regards to Alexandria.

4A had St Francis and North Branch for 10 and then they suddenly folded into a Co-opt and went to 7AA Northern Edge. MSHSL Map wants to make 8 geographic same number teams sections. Problem is then teams petition and opt down or they co-opt and go up or like in 6A the MSHSL has bad data when the map is made and 2 teams get listed that are not hockey schools and you get the super small and weak 6A we had this 2 year cycle.

North Branch and St. Francis were previously in 5A (during the 19/20 & 20/21 seasons), not 4A.

[ClassAGuy]

Watched the Little Falls/Alexandria game online on Tuesday night. Jamie Pettit made a comment that Little Falls should still be in Section 6, which I kind of agree with. So, it got me thinking with the next two year cycle for section alignment coming up, what if the Class A teams of the District 15 for youth hockey made up Section 6? Here is what it would look like:

Alexandria
Morris/Benson
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Little Falls
Prairie Centre
Northern Lakes
Park Rapids
Wadena-Deer Creek
Breckenridge/Wahpeton (have to throw them in as they play ND youth hockey, but MSHSL at the high school level)

I thought 10 might be kind of big, but looking at current section set ups:
1-10 teams
2-11 teams
3-10 teams
4-8 teams
5-10 teams
6-8 teams
7-10 teams
8-10 teams

Little Falls would come from Section 5, Detroit Lake and Park Rapids from Section 8. Willmar would need to find a new home (Section 3 or 5). The other kicker is where the enrollment cut off will fall in regards to Alexandria.

4A had St Francis and North Branch for 10 and then they suddenly folded into a Co-opt and went to 7AA Northern Edge. MSHSL Map wants to make 8 geographic same number teams sections. Problem is then teams petition and opt down or they co-opt and go up or like in 6A the MSHSL has bad data when the map is made and 2 teams get listed that are not hockey schools and you get the super small and weak 6A we had this 2 year cycle.

North Branch and St. Francis were previously in 5A (during the 19/20 & 20/21 seasons), not 4A.

Nope Corn Cobb missed my point yes they were 5A in 19/20 & 20/21 yes

BUT you are incorrect as that has nothing to do with my post above... When the new Sections came out originally in April of 2021

Section 4A had 10 teams
1- Mahtomedi
2- Two Rivers
3- St Paul Academy
4- St Paul Highland Park
5- Simley
6- South St Paul
7- St Paul Johnson
8- Chisago Lakes
9- North Branch
10- St Francis

Chisago Lakes, North Branch and St Francis all were in 5A 19/20 & 2021 BUT MOVED to 4A in the New Sections in April of 2021 for the upcoming 21/22 season But then NB and St Francis Cop-opt to Northern Edge and moved up to 7AA leaving 4A with only 8 teams.

SCC, LF and River Lakes were all in 6A in 19/20 & 20/21 but moved over to 5A in April of 2021

Mankato East, Mankato West and MN river were all in 1A 19/20 & 20/21 and but moved over to 3A in April of 2021

Willmar was in 3A in 19/20 & 20/21 but got bumped into 6A in April of 2021

[ClassAGuy]

Here are the Original Sections when they first came out in April of 2021 for the 21-22 & 22-23 Seasons

Note the MSHSL MAP had 10-11 Teams for each Section. They goal is always to make 8 equal numbered geographic Sections

Section 1A (11 Teams)
1- Northfield
2- Rochester Lourdes
3- Albert Lea
4- New Prague
5- La Crescent
6- Winona
7- Faribault
8- Red Wing
9- Waseca
10- Austin
11- Cotter

Section 2A (11 Teams)
1- Minneapolis
2- Orono
3- Delano
4- Providence Academy
5- Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato
6- Breck
7- Southwest Christian
8- Mound Westonka
9- Hutchinson
10- Bloomington Kennedy
11- Waconia

Section 3A (10 Teams)
1- New Ulm
2- Mankato East
3- Luverne
4- Marshall
5- Windom
6- Worthington
7- Fairmont
8- Minnesota River
9- Mankato West
10- Redwood Valley

Section 4A (10 teams)
1- Mahtomedi
2- Simley
3- Chisago Lakes
4- St Paul Highland Park
5- South St Paul
6- Two Rivers
7- St Paul Academy
8- St Paul Johnson
9- North Branch
10- St Francis

Section 5A (10 teams)
1- Cambridge Isanti
2- Little Falls
3- St. Cloud Cathedral
4- Monticello
5- River Lakes
6- Mora
7- Princeton
8- Sauk Rapids
9- Pine City
10- Becker/Big Lake

Section 6A (10 teams)
1- Alexandria
2- Fergus Falls
3- Northern Lakes
4- Wadena Deer Creek
5- Morris Benson
6- Prairie Centre
7- Willmar
8- Breckenridge/Wahpeton
9- West Central Area
10- Herman-Norcross

Section 7A (10 teams)
1- Hermantown
2- Duluth Denfeld
3- Rock Ridge
4- Proctor
5- Greenway
6- Hibbing
7- International Falls
8- North Shore
9- Ely
10- Moose Lake

Section 8A (10 teams)
1- Warroad
2- East Grand Forks
3- Detroit Lakes
4- Thief River Falls
5- Red Lake Falls
6- Kittson Central
7- Crookston
8- Park Rapids
9- Bagley/Fosston
10- Lake of the Woods

It was the error in the MSHSL system of their website having West Central Area and Herman listed as hockey schools. When the computer made the map those two schools were originally listed and the MSHSL rather than adjusting when the error was noticed just kept 6A at 8 teams. I dont think those two schools are listed for hockey anymore I looked and right now they have been removed from Section 6A Section Placement on the website for boys hockey last time they were listed as having hockey(eventhough they never did) was the 20-21 season.

Assuming no MSHSL error this april of adding those two non hockey schools someone else will be coming back in

[Mite-dad]

Add Duluth Marshall and Cloquet to 5A and LF and RL to 6A and there you have it!

[ClassAGuy]

Add Duluth Marshall and Cloquet to 5A and LF and RL to 6A and there you have it!

Add Duluth Marshall to 7A Rock Ridge to 7AA (The Rumor at least)

Add Moose Lake and Cloquet to 5A

Add Little Falls and River Lakes back to 6A getting closer

NFLD and Waconia will be AA they have the two highest Class A Enrollments with CEC and Duluth Marshall dropping down

[BSUBeaver]

Thanks ClassA guy, I was never really sure how they came up with sections other that it was based on geography. I guess no matter how you try and divide things up, sections are going to have outliers.

Obviously whomever was plugging data into the map was not a West Central Minnesota person. West Central Area? Herman-Norcross doesn't even have their own "main stream" sports teams....

[ClassAGuy]

Thanks ClassA guy, I was never really sure how they came up with sections other that it was based on geography. I guess no matter how you try and divide things up, sections are going to have outliers.

Obviously whomever was plugging data into the map was not a West Central Minnesota person. West Central Area? Herman-Norcross doesn't even have their own "main stream" sports teams....

Trust me when he list came out I could not understand how RL, LF, SCC, Sartell all left 6A but only Willmar and Northern Lakes were added.

When I look at the data base for MSHSL list and saw West Central and Herman listed I literally wanted to call the High School League and say fix this that is where I always say Computer make the map but have a group of Sports leaders look over section maps to ensure what happened in 6A doesnt happen. But again that would be asking alot from MSHSL they struggle in general

[Mite-dad]

How close is Alex to AA?

[ClassAGuy]

How close is Alex to AA?

In last enrollment they did Alex was at 1206

There were as of two years ago Six Class A School with Larger enrollments
Waconia 1288
NFLD 1281
Sauk Rapids 1280
Bloomingto Kennedy 1252
New Prague 1250
Two Rivers 1209

Not sure How much Alex has grown since then I know New Prague, NFLD are growing where as Sauk, Kennedy and Two Rivers are shrinking

[BSUBeaver]

How close is Alex to AA?

Last cycle they were at 1206 according to the MSHSL website. 1298 was the top of Class A.

Girls are in AA as the cut off there was 1128.

It will all depend on where the numbers fall this cycle. My gut tells me they are not one of the 64 top enrollments for boys hockey, but the MSHSL has their opt up/opt down policies. Also, it will be interesting to see if they enter into any type of "coop" with Kalon Prep here in town, a new public charter school that has syphoned some students away (enrollment 107 is what I can find). Right now, they are not cooped as Kalon started after the last cycle was determined.

[BSUBeaver]

Denfeld 5, Alexandria 4

[OtterPuck]

Wadena-Deer Creek 3
Fergus Falls 7
Final