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Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:20 pm

Curious where all the HP players are coming from this spring? See the table below. Per the rosters posted at MNH, I did a quick sort based upon the school or association each player listed for themselves on the roster. For the totals, in some cases I combined the two schools together where they co-op at the HS level (ex: Champlin Park and Coon Rapids). In other cases, I left the association co-op stand alone from the schools that do not co-op at the HS level (ex: Osseo, Maple Grove, and OMG).

No surprise with Minnetonka leading the way. I was very surprised to see who was #2 overall - good for Moorhead! Also surprising to see Blake with only 3 players at the opposite end.

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Team/School		HP-14	HP-15	HP-16	HP-17	TOTAL
Minnetonka		10	4	12	6	32
Moorhead		5	6	7	5	23
Stillwater		9	2	4	6	21
Andover			4	9	2	5	20
Edina			4	8	3	5	20
Proctor-Hermantown	5	6	3	3	17
Wayzata			7	3	2	3	15
Warroad			2	7	0	5	14
Hill-Murray		3	5	2	3	13
Benilde-St. Margaret's	0	3	7	2	12
Brainerd-Little Falls	4	2	3	3	12
Fergus Falls		5	3	0	4	12
Maple Grove		0	2	4	6	12
Woodbury		6	3	3	0	12
Champlin-Coon Rapids	6	3	0	2	11
Duluth			7	4	0	0	11
Grand Rapids-Greenway	3	5	1	2	11
North Wright County	7	4	0	0	11
Owatonna		1	4	2	4	11
White Bear Lake		6	3	2	0	11
Dodge County		3	3	2	2	10
East Ridge		0	5	2	3	10
Eden Prairie		4	3	1	2	10
Gentry Academy		1	1	2	6	10
Northfield		1	2	4	3	10
Orono			3	1	6	0	10
Armstrong Cooper	1	2	3	3	9
Centennial-SLP		4	1	2	2	9
Forest Lake		1	2	1	5	9
Hastings		1	2	3	3	9
Bemidji			3	3	1	1	8
Blaine			3	2	2	1	8
Farmington		3	2	0	3	8
Marshall		2	4	2	0	8
Roseau			3	5	0	0	8
Roseville		2	4	1	1	8
St. Cloud		2	3	2	1	8
Academy of Holy Angels	0	3	4	0	7
Albert Lea		2	3	2	0	7
Alexandria		1	3	2	1	7
Holy Family		1	1	2	3	7
Shattuck-St. Mary's	1	0	1	5	7
Anoka			1	2	2	1	6
Buffalo			2	2	0	2	6
Chaska-Chanhassen	1	0	2	3	6
Chisago Lakes		0	1	3	2	6
Cretin Derham Hall	0	2	3	1	6
Luverne			5	0	0	1	6
Osseo-Maple Grove	4	2	0	0	6
Park			1	1	0	4	6
Rogers			1	2	1	2	6
Rosemount		4	1	1	0	6
Sartell-Sauk Rapids	2	2	1	1	6
Burnsville		0	0	3	2	5
Crookston		0	2	3	0	5
Delano			1	3	1	0	5
Duluth Marshall		0	2	2	1	5
Elk River		1	1	2	1	5
Hopkins Park		3	0	2	0	5
Lakeville South		0	2	2	1	5
Mounds View		1	0	2	2	5
New Ulm			1	0	2	2	5
Northern Lakes		1	2	1	1	5
Prior Lake (& Savage)	1	1	1	2	5
River Lakes		0	3	1	1	5
Eagan			0	0	2	2	4
East Grand Forks	1	2	1	0	4
Lakeville North		1	0	3	0	4
Mahtomedi		2	1	1	0	4
Moose Lake		0	1	2	1	4
Mound Westonka		1	1	0	2	4
St. Paul		3	1	0	0	4
Blake			2	0	1	0	3
Breck			2	1	0	0	3
Eastview		0	0	3	0	3
Hutchinson		0	2	1	0	3
Mankato East		0	2	0	1	3
Shakopee		0	3	0	0	3
Apple Valley		0	0	1	1	2
Bloomington Jefferson	0	0	1	1	2
Cannon River		2	0	0	0	2
Detroit Lakes		2	0	0	0	2
Eveleth-Gilbert		2	0	0	0	2
Minneapolis Washburn	0	0	0	2	2
Orono-Westonka		2	0	0	0	2
Rochester		2	0	0	0	2
Rochester Century	0	1	1	0	2
Rock Ridge		0	2	0	0	2
Simley			0	1	0	1	2
South Saint Paul	1	1	0	0	2
Two Harbors		2	0	0	0	2
Visitation		1	1	0	0	2
Willmar			1	0	0	1	2
Winona			0	0	1	1	2
Austin			0	0	0	1	1
Bagley-Fosston		0	0	0	1	1
Bloomington Kennedy	0	0	0	1	1
Breckenridge		0	1	0	0	1
Cambridge-Isanti	1	0	0	0	1
Cloquet-Esko-Carlton	0	0	1	0	1
Hibbing			0	0	1	0	1
Lakeville		1	0	0	0	1
Mankato West		0	0	0	1	1
Osseo			0	0	0	1	1
Minneapolis		1	0	0	0	1
Minneapolis Southwest	0	0	0	1	1
Minnesota Made		1	0	0	0	1
Minnesota River		0	1	0	0	1
New Ulm Cathedral	0	0	0	1	1
Park Rapids		1	0	0	0	1
Park-Cottage Grove	0	1	0	0	1
Prairie Centre		0	1	0	0	1
Redwood Valley		0	0	0	1	1
Rochester Mayo		0	0	1	0	1
Silver Bay		1	0	0	0	1
Southwest Christian	0	1	0	0	1
Tartan			0	1	0	0	1
Thief River Falls	0	1	0	0	1
Two Rivers		0	1	0	0	1
Waconia			0	0	1	0	1
Wadena			1	0	0	0	1
Waseca			0	0	1	0	1
122 Teams/Schools	200	200	160	160	720

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by PhunnsieMcHockeyDad » Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:19 pm

Cretin-Derham Hall has 3 at HP 14 that will be on campus next year....The Raiders are getting close to double digits!

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by skatez » Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:08 pm

Could you pull the numbers from the Final 54 per school. That would be a much more interesting list. Almost anyone can sign up and pay the money for the first round.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by girlshockey4ever » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:01 am

Yes, I'd love to see the final 54. That tells us a much larger picture at the 16/17 level. Thanks!

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:26 am

Here's the Final 54 data. Minnetonka is still ridiculous with 16 players. To think that a couple of them might not get much playing time at varsity is even more ridiculous. A couple of the Tonka players are listed as playing Elite League last fall, but came in from California? Can someone confirm if this is correct?

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Team/School	Sec	HP-16	HP-17	TOTAL
Minnetonka	2AA	11	5	16
Edina		6AA	3	4	7
Maple Grove	5AA	2	4	6
Stillwater	4AA	2	4	6
Gentry Academy	4AA	0	5	5
Proctor-Herman	7A	3	2	5
Andover		7AA	2	2	4
Benilde-St.M	6AA	4	0	4
Moorhead	8AA	3	1	4
Northfield	1AA	3	1	4
Shattuck-St.M	N/A	1	3	4
Orono		5A	3	0	3
Blaine		7AA	1	1	2
Burnsville	3AA	2	0	2
Centennial	5AA	1	1	2
Chisago Lakes	4A	1	1	2
Duluth Marshall	7A	2	0	2
Elk River	7AA	2	0	2
Farmington	1AA	0	2	2
Holy Family	2AA	1	1	2
Warroad		8A	0	2	2
Apple Valley	3AA	1	0	1
Bagley		?	0	1	1
Brainerd-LF	8AA	1	0	1
Buffalo		8AA	0	1	1
Chaska		2AA	0	1	1
Cretin-DH	3AA	0	1	1
Delano		5A	1	0	1
East Ridge	4AA	0	1	1
Forest Lake	7AA	1	0	1
GR-Greenway	7AA	0	1	1
Hill-Murray	4AA	0	1	1
Lakeville North	1AA	1	0	1
Lakeville South	1AA	1	0	1
Mankato East	2A	0	1	1
Mound Westonka	5A	0	1	1
Mounds View	5AA	0	1	1
Owatonna	1AA	0	1	1
Prior Lake	2AA	0	1	1
Rogers		5AA	0	1	1
Rosemount	3AA	1	0	1
Roseville	4AA	0	1	1
Simley		4A	0	1	1
43 Teams		54	54	108

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by InThePipes » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:56 am

Nice work, thank you

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:12 am

InThePipes wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:56 am
Nice work, thank you
You're Welcome! I little bit of a disclaimer regarding the Final 54's. Last year, and probably due to covid, there were Twenty (20) 2004's (HP-17 in 2021) and Nine (9) 2005's (HP-16 in 2021) who made USA Hockey U16/17 or U18 camps, but did NOT do the MN spring festival or Final 54's. 13 of them were from Shattuck, but nevertheless, there are players who might have already received notice from USA Hockey that they do not need to do any spring HP festivals.

This year, I think that number will be less, but I'm seeing several who made USA Hockey U16/17 or U18 camps last year, who are NOT doing the Final 54's this year: Glaser (05), Kim (05), Lalonde (05), Petrie (06), Scanne (06), Sonntag (05) - all with Shattuck. All other players who are with MSHSL teams AND who made the USA Hockey U16/17 or U18 camps last year are doing the Final 54's this year (22 05's and one from 06). Why are only the Shattuck players missing? I have no idea beyond the reasons I stated above (they have already been given notice from USA hockey).

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by j4241 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:00 pm

There are occasionally some who are injured (like Maddie Kaiser last year) or who have a good hockey excuse (like the kids on Vegas last year who missed HP because of nattys) who are given an opportunity for evaluation in some other way, but I’m pretty sure the SSM kids you mentioned didn’t participate in Minnesota HP because they aren’t Minnesota residents.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:31 pm

j4241 wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:00 pm
There are occasionally some who are injured (like Maddie Kaiser last year) or who have a good hockey excuse (like the kids on Vegas last year who missed HP because of nattys) who are given an opportunity for evaluation in some other way, but I’m pretty sure the SSM kids you mentioned didn’t participate in Minnesota HP because they aren’t Minnesota residents.
That would make sense regarding the Shattuck player "home state", injuries, or also the Nationals. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Cookster » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:45 pm

Just a general question that I am hoping someone on the board can answer. As I was looking at the above list, it appears that Minnetonka had 18 players that were U16 or U17. How does 1 team get basically their entire team (missing 1 and the backup goalie)? It seems hard to believe that there were not other kids that were qualified, but were not selected. That basically means the 4th line on their team and 3rd defensive pair were selected, unless I missed something

More importantly, how does that 4th line actually get any playing time in the regular season? I do not understand the girls selection process, but just seems odd. Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks!

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by girlshockey4ever » Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:52 pm

Based on the state tournament and section game I saw, tonka does not dress a 4th line. Not sure that helps answer your question. But they did get 2nd in state and had 7 freshman in their line up.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Iceburg » Sat May 28, 2022 8:32 am

National Select U18 invitees

2005 Birth Years
G Sedona Blair (Holy Family)
G Genevieve Klein (Shattuck)
D Ellah Hause (Hill-Murray)
D Elly Klepinger (Minnetonka)
D Josie Lang (Stillwater)
D Cailin Mumm (Andover)
D Sydney Putrah (Shattuck)
F Lindzi Avar (Minnetonka)
F Delaney Fleming (Shattuck)
F Hannah Halverson (Edina)
F Ava Lindsay (Minnetonka)
F Lauren O’Hara (Centennial)
F Grace Sadura (Minnetonka)

2006 Birth Years
G Layla Hemp (Minnetonka)
D Carly Humphrey (Elk River)
D Lauren Karl (Minnetonka)
D Taylor Porthan (Edina)
F Kendra Distad (Minnetonka)
F Sawyer Fleming (Shattuck)
F Ayla Puppe (Northfield)
F Josie St. Martin (Stillwater)

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Iceburg » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:55 am

Two more added from the 15 camp.

National Select U18 invitees

2005 Birth Years
G Sedona Blair (Holy Family)
G Genevieve Klein (Shattuck)
D Ellah Hause (Hill-Murray)
D Elly Klepinger (Minnetonka)
D Josie Lang (Stillwater)
D Cailin Mumm (Andover)
D Sydney Putrah (Shattuck)
F Lindzi Avar (Minnetonka)
F Delaney Fleming (Shattuck)
F Hannah Halverson (Edina)
F Ava Lindsay (Minnetonka)
F Lauren O’Hara (Centennial)
F Grace Sadura (Minnetonka)

2006 Birth Years
G Layla Hemp (Minnetonka)
D Carly Humphrey (Elk River)
D Lauren Karl (Minnetonka)
D Taylor Porthan (Edina)
F Kendra Distad (Minnetonka)
F Sawyer Fleming (Shattuck)
F Ayla Puppe (Northfield)
F Josie St. Martin (Stillwater)

2007 Birth Years
D Courtney Little (Andover)
D Mackenzie Jones (Andover)

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Eagles93 » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:28 pm

Narrowed down to 32 today: https://teamusa.usahockey.com/news_article/show/1233353

Those that made this cut:

2005 Birth Years
G Genevieve Klein (Shattuck)
D Elly Klepinger (Minnetonka)
D Josie Lang (Stillwater)
D Cailin Mumm (Andover)
F Lindzi Avar (Minnetonka)
F Delaney Fleming (Shattuck)
F Hannah Halverson (Edina)
F Ava Lindsay (Minnetonka)
F Grace Sadura (Minnetonka)

2006 Birth Years
G Layla Hemp (Minnetonka)
F Kendra Distad (Minnetonka)
F Sawyer Fleming (Shattuck)
F Ayla Puppe (Northfield)
F Josie St. Martin (Stillwater)

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Eagles93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:27 am

Final U18 roster (Minnesotans):

2005 Birth Years
D Elly Klepinger (Minnetonka)
D Cailin Mumm (Andover)
F Lindzi Avar (Minnetonka)
F Ava Lindsay (Minnetonka)
F Grace Sadura (Minnetonka)
G Danielle Strom (Maple Grove)

2006 Birth Years
G Layla Hemp (Minnetonka)
F Josie St. Martin (Stillwater)

5 players from Minnetonka HS. :shock:

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:36 am

Eagles93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:27 am
Final U18 roster (Minnesotans):

2005 Birth Years
D Elly Klepinger (Minnetonka)
D Cailin Mumm (Andover)
F Lindzi Avar (Minnetonka)
F Ava Lindsay (Minnetonka)
F Grace Sadura (Minnetonka)
G Danielle Strom (Maple Grove)

2006 Birth Years
G Layla Hemp (Minnetonka)
F Josie St. Martin (Stillwater)

5 players from Minnetonka HS. :shock:
.... and zero players from Shattuck. Looking at the all-time roster on USA Hockey U18 page, the last time Shattuck was shutout from U18's was 2010. Here's their participation over the years:
2023 - 0
2022 - 2
2020 - 3
2019 - 6
2018 - 6
2017 - 5
2016 - 4
2015 - 4
2014 - 5
2013 - 2
2012 - 2
2011 - 2
2010 - 0
2009 - 2
2008 - 3
Side Note: Unless someone on the posted 05/06 list is from Edina, Edina has also been shutout for the first time since 2013 (either as a hometown or school).

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Iceburg » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:15 am

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the exact nature of your post, but there are two Shattuck girls on the U18 U.S. team that will play Canada.

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Post by Eagles93 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:27 am

Actually there are three. I assume he means MN girls that go to Shattuck?

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Post by Iceburg » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:30 pm

Doh, totally missed the Lalonde girl.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:53 am

Iceburg wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:15 am
Maybe I’m misunderstanding the exact nature of your post, but there are two Shattuck girls on the U18 U.S. team that will play Canada.
The newest list Eagles93 posted shows no Shattuck players. The previous lists did show Shattuck players. I must be missing something....

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by j4241 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:24 am

I thought Lalonde, Kim and Scannell all made it, all of whom are at Shattuck, none of whom are Minnesotans.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Lace'emUp » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:26 am

j4241 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:24 am
I thought Lalonde, Kim and Scannell all made it, all of whom are at Shattuck, none of whom are Minnesotans.
OK, I see it now. Looking back at all the previous lists all posted by Iceburg and Eagles93, they had both MN and non-MN players (Shattuck) listed. The very last list says (Minnesotans), I missed that part. Thus, I thought no Shattuck players made it. My apologies.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by j4241 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:26 am

It's an achievement to be selected to a US team so no slight intended to any of the Minnesota kids playing, but it's disheartening to see how bad this US team looks compared to Canada, and particularly given all of the Canadian kids lost a full year of hockey when they shut down for COVID. I think it's been clear for a few years this '05/'06 group for the US is not very deep, but there is a huge talent gap between these two teams. Tough week for USA hockey. Probably premature to push the panic button because of two days in August, but I wonder if the roster announced for this series will be the same as the one they field in Sweden?

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by Iceburg » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:51 am

Even in the best years there is usually a change or two between the three game series and the World Championships. I bet we see closer to five changes.

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Re: Spring HP Rosters - By the numbers (and schools)

Post by InThePipes » Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:05 pm

j4241 wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:26 am
It's an achievement to be selected to a US team so no slight intended to any of the Minnesota kids playing, but it's disheartening to see how bad this US team looks compared to Canada, and particularly given all of the Canadian kids lost a full year of hockey when they shut down for COVID. I think it's been clear for a few years this '05/'06 group for the US is not very deep, but there is a huge talent gap between these two teams. Tough week for USA hockey. Probably premature to push the panic button because of two days in August, but I wonder if the roster announced for this series will be the same as the one they field in Sweden?
I watched and was stunned at how poor they looked. Obviously they are playing a very good opponent, but even just the number of unforced errors were shocking and moments where you're left wondering what in the world they were doing positionally.

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