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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:47 am
by northwoods oldtimer
Some of you guys make it sound like the BCHL is a premiere league or something. Huge disparity of talent of the teams in that league, so hard for me to see the benefit of that league overall in comparison to USHL and NAHL teams.
Jordy Christian put up 84 points out in that league a few years back now he cannot make double digits in points in the WCHA. Glorified 4 on 4 league with NO defense. USHL and NAHL are better options for developing players to move on the college and professional levels.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:51 am
by Reggie
northwoods oldtimer wrote:Some of you guys make it sound like the BCHL is a premiere league or something. Huge disparity of talent of the teams in that league, so hard for me to see the benefit of that league overall in comparison to USHL and NAHL teams.
Jordy Christian put up 84 points out in that league a few years back now he cannot make double digits in points in the WCHA. Glorified 4 on 4 league with NO defense. USHL and NAHL are better options for developing players to move on the college and professional levels.
I agree and there is only a few good teams in the league.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:38 pm
by Crimson
Disagree with comments on BCHL. Great league with a much more wide open style of play. My son played in NAHL and BCHL. BCHL is a slightly younger league - much like the USHL - but overall much better than the NAHL. Two second/third liners from his BCHL team left mid season and became first/second liners for teams in the NAHL. The BCHL is scouted much more by D1 schools than the NAHL - just look at the commitment lists for the 2 leagues. Every college coach he spoke with told him that the BCHL gave him a better chance to earn a scholly. Also, I believe the top 3-4 teams in the BCHL would be very competitive in USHL.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:29 am
by keepyourheadup
The top teams from both leagues are a miss match in my opinion. Much like A and AA in high school.. There are a few teams that could compete but overall one is far superior to the other.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:24 pm
by siouxforce19
Crimson wrote:Disagree with comments on BCHL. Great league with a much more wide open style of play. My son played in NAHL and BCHL. BCHL is a slightly younger league - much like the USHL - but overall much better than the NAHL. Two second/third liners from his BCHL team left mid season and became first/second liners for teams in the NAHL. The BCHL is scouted much more by D1 schools than the NAHL - just look at the commitment lists for the 2 leagues. Every college coach he spoke with told him that the BCHL gave him a better chance to earn a scholly. Also, I believe the top 3-4 teams in the BCHL would be very competitive in USHL.
It goes like this: USHL>BCHL>AJHL>NAHL
Other Canadian leagues, like the OJHL are probably better than the NAHL as well, but I see little from them, and hear of few players from that league going to D1 schools I'm familiar with, so hard to judge.
The top tier teams in the leagues in Canada would be competitive in the USHL, but the depth in those leagues is not as good because of the CHL taking most of the high end talent. Penticton in the BCHL was so dominant that to me I don't feel like those kids are really being tested. They pretty much walked through the season without a sweat. I hope the kids on that team going to college remember what battling adversity is like before they get to college or there could be problems.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:18 pm
by jackstraw
Any crossover games between leagues that can be used? Did Penticton play any NA teams in any tourney type formats?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:50 am
by hockeyfan893
Rising Seniors
Rising Juniors
Ryan Collins, NTDP (USHL), Benilde
Jack Glover, NTDP (USHL), Benilde
Rising Sophomores
Paul Bittner, Portland Winterhawks (WHL), Crookston
Keegan Iverson, Portland Winterhawks (WHL), Breck
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:34 am
by icehornet
Looks like Edina's Jack Walker could be joining his brother in the WHL. Hornets are always deep but that would hurt.
http://www.peninsulanewsreview.com/spor ... &bc09=true
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:12 am
by bemused
OJHL Championship is next week..Wisconsin Wilderness from SIJHL are in 4 team field..will be interesting to see how they do..
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:59 am
by OGEE OGELTHORPE
bemused wrote:OJHL Championship is next week..Wisconsin Wilderness from SIJHL are in 4 team field..will be interesting to see how they do..
Yeah, can't wait to watch it. It's being televised on ESPN 8 the Ocho.
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:46 pm
by STAdangler
Cause everyone care about the wilderness and phil housley's disappointment of a son
Re: ?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:17 pm
by 4thlineproblems
jackstraw wrote:Any crossover games between leagues that can be used? Did Penticton play any NA teams in any tourney type formats?
I know wenatchee from the NA played a bunch of BC teams and one Alberta junior team in the pre-seanson they used for their try-out process. Wenatchee went 7-1 and that is including a win over pentiction. Again it was only pe-season and both teams im sure were using it as a tryout process, but it shows the gap between the leagues are similar. I have a hard time believing that lucia, reily, and fogarty would be leading the NA is points like they are in the BC
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:51 am
by northwoods oldtimer
4thlineproblems
I have a hard time believing that lucia, reily, and fogarty would be leading the NA is points like they are in the BC
I would agree with your comment.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:12 pm
by The Exiled One
Here's the old thread...
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26392
I'm trying to get the new list compiled. Stay tuned.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:51 pm
by The Exiled One
Okay, here's what I've got so far...
Code: Select all
Class Pos Player Previous Team New Team
So D Jack Walker* Edina Victoria-WHL
So D Keegan Iverson Breck Portland-WHL
So F Paul Bittner Crookston Portland-WHL
Jr D Jack Glover BSM NTDP
Jr F Connor Hurley* Edina Muskegon-USHL
Jr F Karson Kuhlman* CEC Dubuque-USHL
Jr D Ryan Collins BSM NTDP
Sr D Jordan Gross* Maple Grove Green Bay-USHL
Sr F Louie Nanne* Edina Penticton-BCHL
Sr D Michael Brodzinski* Blaine Muskegon-USHL
Sr F Vinnie Letteri* Minnetonka Lincoln-USHL
Some of these guys are not confirmed, but highly likely (noted with an asterisk*). Juniors having a commitment in hand and playing USHL in spring is extremely correlative with playing in the USHL the following season. My apologies if I'm wrong.
Who am I missing?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:00 pm
by karl(east)
The Exiled One wrote:Some of these guys are not confirmed, but highly likely. Juniors having a commitment in hand and playing USHL in spring is extremely correlative with playing in the USHL the following season. My apologies if I'm wrong.
Could you perhaps make separate lists for those who are confirmed departures, and those who are still just likely to go? I understand what you're doing, but I'd rather not jump to conclusions right away...
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:10 pm
by The Exiled One
karl(east) wrote:Could you perhaps make separate lists for those who are confirmed departures, and those who are still just likely to go? I understand what you're doing, but I'd rather not jump to conclusions right away...
I edited the list. How does that look?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:54 pm
by karl(east)
The Exiled One wrote:karl(east) wrote:Could you perhaps make separate lists for those who are confirmed departures, and those who are still just likely to go? I understand what you're doing, but I'd rather not jump to conclusions right away...
I edited the list. How does that look?
Looks good. Thanks!
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:56 pm
by The Exiled One
Code: Select all
Class Pos Player Previous Team New Team
So D Jack Walker* Edina Victoria-WHL
So D Keegan Iverson Breck Portland-WHL
So F Paul Bittner Crookston Portland-WHL
Jr D Jack Glover BSM NTDP
Jr F Connor Hurley* Edina Muskegon-USHL
Jr F Karson Kuhlman* CEC Dubuque-USHL
Jr D Ryan Collins BSM NTDP
Sr D Johnny Wiitala Lakeville South Waterloo-USHL
Sr D Jordan Gross Maple Grove Green Bay-USHL
Sr F Louie Nanne Edina Penticton-BCHL
Sr D Michael Brodzinski Blaine Muskegon-USHL
Sr F Vinnie Letteri* Minnetonka Lincoln-USHL
*Some of these guys are not confirmed, but highly likely. My apologies if I'm wrong.
Any more confirmations on this list or additions to it?
Re: ?
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:08 pm
by scorekeeper
jackstraw wrote:Any crossover games between leagues that can be used? Did Penticton play any NA teams in any tourney type formats?
NAHL teams went 10-2-2 through 14 exhibition games against BCJHL a
nd AJHL last season, and went undefeated against the Vees
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:46 pm
by karl(east)
This article seems to suggest Jake Bischoff of Grand Rapids is leaving early...any truth to that?
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/ ... up/sports/
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:57 pm
by east hockey
Just so long as nobody claims his coach "ran him out of town"
Lee
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:14 pm
by hockeyfan893
Word is Hill-Murray will be losing two. Still waiting for official confirmation.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:07 pm
by Vapor
hockeyfan893 wrote:Word is Hill-Murray will be losing two. Still waiting for official confirmation.
Guentzel & Heinrich ???
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:48 pm
by The Exiled One
MNHockeyHub wrote:Bischoff, a 6-foot, 180-pound defenseman who has committed to play at Minnesota, was selected in the seventh round (185th overall) by the New York Islanders. He is expected to play his senior season with the Indians starting in the fall.
http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/155585