Best freshman in the state
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Best freshman in the state
There's a thread for the best sophomore, so why not for best freshman?
I know two that might fit the bill:
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Others?
I know two that might fit the bill:
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Others?
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Derek Smith from Apple Valley may not be the best overall player but has to be considered for being this age groups top defensman, he is so calm and undercontrol and skilled I'm very impressed with him so far. He has one goal and an assist.
AJ Michaelson an Apple Valley Forward is one of the fastest kids on skates with alot of skill, he scored 2 goials in the last game and hopefully its the start of alot more from him to come this year and in the future. He has 6 points now currently 3rd on the team.
AJ Michaelson an Apple Valley Forward is one of the fastest kids on skates with alot of skill, he scored 2 goials in the last game and hopefully its the start of alot more from him to come this year and in the future. He has 6 points now currently 3rd on the team.
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I got the chance to watch Travis Boyd for the first time on Saturday and I'd have to say that i was impressed by his ice vision and passing for a freshman. Based on last years stats and his stats this year id have to put him as the top freshman playing varsity. I agree with HappyHockeyFan too that Michael Zajac is another one to keep an eye on. Played very well for a freshman vs Hopkins and could develop into a solid player
I think that we could all agree that it takes a special kind of talent to start as a freshman on competitive teams. There is quite a size, strength and maturity difference between frosh and seniors at the HS level. Our list, so far, looks like this:
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Michael Zajac - Eagan
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead
Anders Franke - Elk River
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Michael Zajac - Eagan
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead
Anders Franke - Elk River
isn't mike reilly a defenseman?Teak wrote:I think that we could all agree that it takes a special kind of talent to start as a freshman on competitive teams. There is quite a size, strength and maturity difference between frosh and seniors at the HS level. Our list, so far, looks like this:
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Michael Zajac - Eagan
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead
Anders Franke - Elk River
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Reilly plays defenseTeak wrote:I think that we could all agree that it takes a special kind of talent to start as a freshman on competitive teams. There is quite a size, strength and maturity difference between frosh and seniors at the HS level. Our list, so far, looks like this:
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Michael Zajac - Eagan
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead
Anders Franke - Elk River
Some interesting stats for comparison: GP-G-A, +/-
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins 7-5-9, +4
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy 5-2-2, +1
Michael Zajac - Eagan 7-0-3, 0
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley 5-3-3, +3
Eric Carlson – Albert Lea 5-2-1, 0
Christian Horn – BenildeSM 5-3-6, +8
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley 5-1-1, +9
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels 5-1-4, +4
Braden Devescovi – Bemidji 6-1-0, -1
Jake Horton – BenildeSM 5-0-2, +9
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead, GP=2, GA=2, SV=31, SV%=96.9, 2-0-0 (WLT)
Anders Franke - Elk River, GP=7, GA=15, SV=145, SV%=90.6, 4-3-0
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins 7-5-9, +4
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy 5-2-2, +1
Michael Zajac - Eagan 7-0-3, 0
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley 5-3-3, +3
Eric Carlson – Albert Lea 5-2-1, 0
Christian Horn – BenildeSM 5-3-6, +8
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley 5-1-1, +9
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels 5-1-4, +4
Braden Devescovi – Bemidji 6-1-0, -1
Jake Horton – BenildeSM 5-0-2, +9
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead, GP=2, GA=2, SV=31, SV%=96.9, 2-0-0 (WLT)
Anders Franke - Elk River, GP=7, GA=15, SV=145, SV%=90.6, 4-3-0
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F-Tanner Jordon-Maht.Teak wrote:I think that we could all agree that it takes a special kind of talent to start as a freshman on competitive teams. There is quite a size, strength and maturity difference between frosh and seniors at the HS level. Our list, so far, looks like this:
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy
Michael Zajac - Eagan
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead
Anders Franke - Elk River
D-Eric Schurhamer-STA
D-Reilly-AHA
What grade is D-Sean Madigan/Burnsville in?
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My thoughts exactly. The pointstreak / MNhockeyhub site is missing a lot of games and stats to be reliably used as a source for statewide stats. I find almost half of the games are missing something (not including the +/- which is missing from almost all of them). Some teams have players on their rosters that graduated last year -- and they even have points this year!Husky88 wrote:And if the stats came from Pointstreak, the +/-'s are worthless because in most cases, the home team does not record all of the players on the ice when the goal was scored. In some cases, the games are never recorded!
Only a handful of teams are using the system correctly on a consistent basis.
Some stats: GP-G-A
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins 7-5-9
Tanner Jordan – Mahtomedi 7-8-2
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy 5-2-2
Michael Zajac - Eagan 7-0-3
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley 5-3-3
Eric Carlson – Albert Lea 5-2-1
Christian Horn – BenildeSM 5-3-6
Zach Hartley (8th Grader!) – Minnehaha Academy 5-1-3
Troy Traxler – La Crescent 5-1-1
Andrew Commers – STA 5-0-1
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley 5-1-1
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels 5-1-4
Braden Devescovi – Bemidji 6-1-0
Jake Horton – BenildeSM 5-0-2
Eric Schurhammer – STA 5-2-2
Grant Sattler – STA 5-1-0
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead, GP=2, GA=2, SV=31, SV%=96.9, 2-0-0 (WLT)
Anders Franke - Elk River, GP=7, GA=15, SV=145, SV%=90.6, 4-3-0
Not done searching all schools yet, but it looks like St. Thomas Academy uses freshmen more, with four getting regular playing time.
I know that the stats are not always up-to-date, and we cannot really compare without knowing strength-of-schedule (s-o-s), but we can see perhaps who is most important to their given team. For example, Tanner is #2 in scoring for Mahtomedi, after the sophomore Ben Marshall, so he is probably fairly important for that team irregardless of their s-o-s.
Similarly, the 8th grader Hartley is probably doing okay for Minnehaha considering how weak the team is, irregardless of s-o-s. And getting regular play for BenildeSM is pretty impressive even if the stats were fattened by having played Meadow Creek Christian.
This wasn’t meant to be rigorous, just a lazy survey of the freshmen who have broken into the regular rotation of their teams. I have been using the rosters as listed on FollowThePuck.com, and of course, some schools don’t have their rosters on that site yet, so yeah….lazy and incomplete is the survey.
Thanks for your comments and suggested names.
Burnsville’s Sean Madigan is listed as a sophomore.
Forwards
Travis Boyd - Hopkins 7-5-9
Tanner Jordan – Mahtomedi 7-8-2
Pete Kreiger - St. Thomas Academy 5-2-2
Michael Zajac - Eagan 7-0-3
A.J. Michaelson - Apple Valley 5-3-3
Eric Carlson – Albert Lea 5-2-1
Christian Horn – BenildeSM 5-3-6
Zach Hartley (8th Grader!) – Minnehaha Academy 5-1-3
Troy Traxler – La Crescent 5-1-1
Andrew Commers – STA 5-0-1
Defense
Derek Smith - Apple Valley 5-1-1
Mike Reilly - Academy of Holy Angels 5-1-4
Braden Devescovi – Bemidji 6-1-0
Jake Horton – BenildeSM 5-0-2
Eric Schurhammer – STA 5-2-2
Grant Sattler – STA 5-1-0
Goalies
Michael Bitzer - Moorhead, GP=2, GA=2, SV=31, SV%=96.9, 2-0-0 (WLT)
Anders Franke - Elk River, GP=7, GA=15, SV=145, SV%=90.6, 4-3-0
Not done searching all schools yet, but it looks like St. Thomas Academy uses freshmen more, with four getting regular playing time.
I know that the stats are not always up-to-date, and we cannot really compare without knowing strength-of-schedule (s-o-s), but we can see perhaps who is most important to their given team. For example, Tanner is #2 in scoring for Mahtomedi, after the sophomore Ben Marshall, so he is probably fairly important for that team irregardless of their s-o-s.
Similarly, the 8th grader Hartley is probably doing okay for Minnehaha considering how weak the team is, irregardless of s-o-s. And getting regular play for BenildeSM is pretty impressive even if the stats were fattened by having played Meadow Creek Christian.
This wasn’t meant to be rigorous, just a lazy survey of the freshmen who have broken into the regular rotation of their teams. I have been using the rosters as listed on FollowThePuck.com, and of course, some schools don’t have their rosters on that site yet, so yeah….lazy and incomplete is the survey.
Thanks for your comments and suggested names.
Burnsville’s Sean Madigan is listed as a sophomore.
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Here's dent's take on this year's freshmen...
http://geocities.com/dent0110/fresh2009.html
http://geocities.com/dent0110/fresh2009.html
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Travis Boyd Hopkins
Austyn Young South St. Paul
AJ Michaelson Apple Valley
Tanner Jordan Mahtomedi
Erik Baskin Minnetonka
Pete Krieger St. Thomas Academy
Michael Zajac Eagan
Derek Perkins Lakeville North
Nate Arentz Lakeville North
Garrett Aldrich Elk River/Zimmerman
Zac McCarver North St. Paul
Mick Dhein Richfield
Aaron Rich Duluth Marshall
Grant Sattler St. Thomas Academy
Morgan Puncochar Mounds View
DEFENSE
Alex Smith Apple Valley
Eric Schurhamer St. Thomas Academy
Brady Skjei Lakeville North
Neal Goff Stillwater
Isaac Gorman Austin
GOALIE
Anders Franke Elk River/Zimmerman
Sawyer Marshall Mahtomedi
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Its still early in the year. But i have seen some names brought up that are "freshman varsity" players but only get played in the games where the coach knows that there team will dominate. The more interesting playes are the ones that can come into bigger programs and are on the first or second line, and out there when the game is on the line.
Tanner Jordan MAHT
Eric Schurhamer STA
Mike Reilly AHA
Travis Boyd HOP
I know there are others also... but who else do you include in that list. I cant take that last post seriously knowing that there are some players on that list that only mix in a game in Varsity when there team will dominate. They arent skating during the BIG games
Tanner Jordan MAHT
Eric Schurhamer STA
Mike Reilly AHA
Travis Boyd HOP
I know there are others also... but who else do you include in that list. I cant take that last post seriously knowing that there are some players on that list that only mix in a game in Varsity when there team will dominate. They arent skating during the BIG games
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Alex Smith from Apple Valley is actually Derek Smith.The Exiled One wrote:Here's dent's take on this year's freshmen...
http://geocities.com/dent0110/fresh2009.html
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FORWARD Travis Boyd Hopkins Austyn Young South St. Paul AJ Michaelson Apple Valley Tanner Jordan Mahtomedi Erik Baskin Minnetonka Pete Krieger St. Thomas Academy Michael Zajac Eagan Derek Perkins Lakeville North Nate Arentz Lakeville North Garrett Aldrich Elk River/Zimmerman Zac McCarver North St. Paul Mick Dhein Richfield Aaron Rich Duluth Marshall Grant Sattler St. Thomas Academy Morgan Puncochar Mounds View DEFENSE Alex Smith Apple Valley Eric Schurhamer St. Thomas Academy Brady Skjei Lakeville North Neal Goff Stillwater Isaac Gorman Austin GOALIE Anders Franke Elk River/Zimmerman Sawyer Marshall Mahtomedi
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I would argue that Michaelson and Zajac playing in the Lake Conference validates themselves as playing in "bigger programs" or in "big games". You may disagree, just my opinion.Saywhat?03 wrote:Its still early in the year. But i have seen some names brought up that are "freshman varsity" players but only get played in the games where the coach knows that there team will dominate. The more interesting playes are the ones that can come into bigger programs and are on the first or second line, and out there when the game is on the line.
Tanner Jordan MAHT
Eric Schurhamer STA
Mike Reilly AHA
Travis Boyd HOP
I know there are others also... but who else do you include in that list. I cant take that last post seriously knowing that there are some players on that list that only mix in a game in Varsity when there team will dominate. They arent skating during the BIG games