Grand Rapids : Where will the points come from?
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Grand Rapids : Where will the points come from?
Was looking at the GRHS website and an alarming stat jumped out at me. As a team it appears they scored 114 goals. Returning players accounted for only 32 of those, with Roy leading the way with 10. Who's going to pick up the slack this season?
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You'll be amazed at who might come forward and do a lot of the scoring.GR3343 wrote:Was looking at the GRHS website and an alarming stat jumped out at me. As a team it appears they scored 114 goals. Returning players accounted for only 32 of those, with Roy leading the way with 10. Who's going to pick up the slack this season?
I have seen it with other teams when a player basically does nothing as a junior playing regular shifts and then in his senior year, finishes as one of the top scorers.
More than likely, someone will step it up in the scoring column.
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Trevor Hicks was a great example of that.wbmd wrote:You'll be amazed at who might come forward and do a lot of the scoring.GR3343 wrote:Was looking at the GRHS website and an alarming stat jumped out at me. As a team it appears they scored 114 goals. Returning players accounted for only 32 of those, with Roy leading the way with 10. Who's going to pick up the slack this season?
I have seen it with other teams when a player basically does nothing as a junior playing regular shifts and then in his senior year, finishes as one of the top scorers.
More than likely, someone will step it up in the scoring column.
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If Tabaka can play well in goal, I think Rapids has a very good chance to 3 peat in 7AA. They have solid defensemen. One of the reasons I like them this year to reach state too is Cloquet and East don't have Leis and Ellingson back. Jokenin is a good player, but certainly not in the league of Tyler Johnson. Also with Flaherty(sp?) leaving East they'll be looking for a go to guy.
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Speaking of Goalies what happened with the new Goalie kid in town?Frequent_MN_Flyer wrote:If Tabaka can play well in goal, I think Rapids has a very good chance to 3 peat in 7AA. They have solid defensemen. One of the reasons I like them this year to reach state too is Cloquet and East don't have Leis and Ellingson back. Jokenin is a good player, but certainly not in the league of Tyler Johnson. Also with Flaherty(sp?) leaving East they'll be looking for a go to guy.
Crushtheyskullz or whatever his name was from Maple Grove.
Is he actually playing? and can any of you GR folks bring us up to speed on this.
Thanks
He's on the football team as of right now. He played in at least one summer games and was so-so. In my opinion, he's not ready to unseat Tabaka, Figgins, Underwood or Larson.Can't Never Tried wrote:Speaking of Goalies what happened with the new Goalie kid in town?Frequent_MN_Flyer wrote:If Tabaka can play well in goal, I think Rapids has a very good chance to 3 peat in 7AA. They have solid defensemen. One of the reasons I like them this year to reach state too is Cloquet and East don't have Leis and Ellingson back. Jokenin is a good player, but certainly not in the league of Tyler Johnson. Also with Flaherty(sp?) leaving East they'll be looking for a go to guy.
Crushtheyskullz or whatever his name was from Maple Grove.
Is he actually playing? and can any of you GR folks bring us up to speed on this.
Thanks
Can't Never Tried wrote:Flaherty only scored 12 goals last year, I believe Rob Johnson was the leading scorer so I'm sure the hounds will be finewith him and Tardy leading the way.Frequent_MN_Flyer wrote:If Tabaka can play well in goal, I think Rapids has a very good chance to 3 peat in 7AA. They have solid defensemen. One of the reasons I like them this year to reach state too is Cloquet and East don't have Leis and Ellingson back. Jokenin is a good player, but certainly not in the league of Tyler Johnson. Also with Flaherty(sp?) leaving East they'll be looking for a go to guy.
Speaking of Goalies what happened with the new Goalie kid in town?
Crushtheyskullz or whatever his name was from Maple Grove.
Is he actually playing? and can any of you GR folks bring us up to speed on this.
Thanks
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Jokinen led the section in scoring last year... I would consider him a little better than "good". Cloquet is also returning four of their top five D.Frequent_MN_Flyer wrote:If Tabaka can play well in goal, I think Rapids has a very good chance to 3 peat in 7AA. They have solid defensemen. One of the reasons I like them this year to reach state too is Cloquet and East don't have Leis and Ellingson back. Jokenin is a good player, but certainly not in the league of Tyler Johnson. Also with Flaherty(sp?) leaving East they'll be looking for a go to guy.
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Are we saying that the Goalies are going to get all of the points this year????GR3343 wrote:He's on the football team as of right now. He played in at least one summer games and was so-so. In my opinion, he's not ready to unseat Tabaka, Figgins, Underwood or Larson.Can't Never Tried wrote:Speaking of Goalies what happened with the new Goalie kid in town?Frequent_MN_Flyer wrote:If Tabaka can play well in goal, I think Rapids has a very good chance to 3 peat in 7AA. They have solid defensemen. One of the reasons I like them this year to reach state too is Cloquet and East don't have Leis and Ellingson back. Jokenin is a good player, but certainly not in the league of Tyler Johnson. Also with Flaherty(sp?) leaving East they'll be looking for a go to guy.
Crushtheyskullz or whatever his name was from Maple Grove.
Is he actually playing? and can any of you GR folks bring us up to speed on this.
Thanks
No I thing the better than good Jokenin will all the way from cloquet.Indians forever wrote:Are we saying that the Goalies are going to get all of the points this year????GR3343 wrote:He's on the football team as of right now. He played in at least one summer games and was so-so. In my opinion, he's not ready to unseat Tabaka, Figgins, Underwood or Larson.Can't Never Tried wrote: Speaking of Goalies what happened with the new Goalie kid in town?
Crushtheyskullz or whatever his name was from Maple Grove.
Is he actually playing? and can any of you GR folks bring us up to speed on this.
Thanks
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Top 5 returning Scorers:
Robb Roy: 10-10-20 (2006-2007) 17-20-37 (career)
Sam Sparen: 9-8-17 (2006-2007) 14-13-27 (career)
Sam Rendle: 3-11-14 (2006-2007) 3-11-14 (career)
Corey Kosak: 3-9-12 (2006-2007) 3-9-12 (career)
Tony Palkki: 3-5-8 (2006-2007) 3-5-8 (career)
Robb Roy: 10-10-20 (2006-2007) 17-20-37 (career)
Sam Sparen: 9-8-17 (2006-2007) 14-13-27 (career)
Sam Rendle: 3-11-14 (2006-2007) 3-11-14 (career)
Corey Kosak: 3-9-12 (2006-2007) 3-9-12 (career)
Tony Palkki: 3-5-8 (2006-2007) 3-5-8 (career)
Don't expect to see much out of the so-called super sophs. Lots of seniors and a handfull of nice juniors to compete with for playing time. Skrbec is a very nice player and could be a big plus if he starts burying the puck. Aside from him I don't see alot of contribution from too many other sophs. A couple defenseman could see some playing time, but they will need to improve immensely on their defensive skills to fit in.Reggie wrote:Hopefully some of the super sophs.
I think there's a good chance some of those seniors may get cut - the staff has to look at getting a few of the sophs some experience if the team is going to go anywhere over the next couple years. Keeping in mind, alot of those seniors have never seen any varsity time either - who would you play??norcon wrote:Don't expect to see much out of the so-called super sophs. Lots of seniors and a handfull of nice juniors to compete with for playing time. Skrbec is a very nice player and could be a big plus if he starts burying the puck. Aside from him I don't see alot of contribution from too many other sophs. A couple defenseman could see some playing time, but they will need to improve immensely on their defensive skills to fit in.Reggie wrote:Hopefully some of the super sophs.
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If all things are equal I play the senior...for the reasons that have been shared countless times in many threads.PuckTime wrote:I think there's a good chance some of those seniors may get cut - the staff has to look at getting a few of the sophs some experience if the team is going to go anywhere over the next couple years. Keeping in mind, alot of those seniors have never seen any varsity time either - who would you play??norcon wrote:Don't expect to see much out of the so-called super sophs. Lots of seniors and a handfull of nice juniors to compete with for playing time. Skrbec is a very nice player and could be a big plus if he starts burying the puck. Aside from him I don't see alot of contribution from too many other sophs. A couple defenseman could see some playing time, but they will need to improve immensely on their defensive skills to fit in.Reggie wrote:Hopefully some of the super sophs.
Play for this season..not next!
What if things aren't equal? Maybe a soph or even a junior has a slight edge or more potential? Do you play the senior just because he's a senior?Can't Never Tried wrote:If all things are equal I play the senior...for the reasons that have been shared countless times in many threads.PuckTime wrote:I think there's a good chance some of those seniors may get cut - the staff has to look at getting a few of the sophs some experience if the team is going to go anywhere over the next couple years. Keeping in mind, alot of those seniors have never seen any varsity time either - who would you play??norcon wrote: Don't expect to see much out of the so-called super sophs. Lots of seniors and a handfull of nice juniors to compete with for playing time. Skrbec is a very nice player and could be a big plus if he starts burying the puck. Aside from him I don't see alot of contribution from too many other sophs. A couple defenseman could see some playing time, but they will need to improve immensely on their defensive skills to fit in.
Play for this season..not next!
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No you put the best team on the ice for this year...period IMOPuckTime wrote:What if things aren't equal? Maybe a soph or even a junior has a slight edge or more potential? Do you play the senior just because he's a senior?Can't Never Tried wrote:If all things are equal I play the senior...for the reasons that have been shared countless times in many threads.PuckTime wrote: I think there's a good chance some of those seniors may get cut - the staff has to look at getting a few of the sophs some experience if the team is going to go anywhere over the next couple years. Keeping in mind, alot of those seniors have never seen any varsity time either - who would you play??
Play for this season..not next!
I don't care if he's a fresh..if he's better you play him.
But if the Sr. and Fresh or whatever grade are equal play the Sr. remember anyone who doesn't perform as the season gets going can get bumped.
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You need to guess who is going to be better at the END of the year, not at tryouts.Can't Never Tried wrote: No you put the best team on the ice for this year...period IMO
I don't care if he's a fresh..if he's better you play him.
But if the Sr. and Fresh or whatever grade are equal play the Sr. remember anyone who doesn't perform as the season gets going can get bumped.
The only soft spot I see is the one between my legs
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"even close"GR3343 wrote:I guess I'm of the opinion that if you have a soph. and a sr. who are even close, you play the soph. You're going to get more milage for your program that way. The senior is on his way out while you will get two plus seasons from a budding soph.
Boy that would suck.....kind of tough to look fwd to the Sr. year if your gonna get knocked off by a younger player that may or may not pan out.
That's always playing for the future then.... so I disagree.
But like you said that's your opinion and that's alright.
Do you get rid of that budding soph after the Jr. year for the next promise??
Can't Never Tried wrote:"even close"GR3343 wrote:I guess I'm of the opinion that if you have a soph. and a sr. who are even close, you play the soph. You're going to get more milage for your program that way. The senior is on his way out while you will get two plus seasons from a budding soph.
Boy that would suck.....kind of tough to look fwd to the Sr. year if your gonna get knocked off by a younger player that may or may not pan out.
That's always playing for the future then.... so I disagree.
But like you said that's your opinion and that's alright.
Do you get rid of that budding soph after the Jr. year for the next promise??
I see both points. Pretty tough call - glad I'm not in charge. Would be hard to balance because you have to focus and play for this year, but to a degree have to prepare for the future of the team at the same time.
Can't just bump the senior, but have to take a good look at the youngster.
Maybe came out a little harsh. Only meant to say if you've got a potentially better player that will help your team now as well as in the future, and that player is a soph., I would think you would keep him over a borderline sr. who has only played jv up til now. Even if that sr. is equal to or close to as talented as the upcoming sophs. You'll eventually end up with a better team in the long run because you will have a broader canvas with which to work for 2 plus years, as opposed to developing a player who will be on his/her way after the season's done. I'm sure it's a dilema facing every program in the state. What's right and fair? Only the coaches can make those decisions.Can't Never Tried wrote:"even close"GR3343 wrote:I guess I'm of the opinion that if you have a soph. and a sr. who are even close, you play the soph. You're going to get more milage for your program that way. The senior is on his way out while you will get two plus seasons from a budding soph.
Boy that would suck.....kind of tough to look fwd to the Sr. year if your gonna get knocked off by a younger player that may or may not pan out.
That's always playing for the future then.... so I disagree.
But like you said that's your opinion and that's alright.
Do you get rid of that budding soph after the Jr. year for the next promise??