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4-2 St. Cloud final. Time for a coaching change in Roseau. Team consistently falls apart with about a month to go in the season. He cannot make personnel decisions to save his life. Runs 6 D evenly even though he clearly shouldn’t be. Has a third liner that has taken a penalty in each of the last tw...

WestMetro wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:58 pm Knights lead 3-1 1 min left

4-1 Empty net final. Tough one for the Rams. Lose the 2 seed in a game they outshot STMA 49-23.

Doesn't matter that Warroad might be good for a few years here, my point is that even a program as good as they are can have long droughts of success when they don't have a metro area to draw from. It's a fact. Misleading stats? Only 11 of those 33 big city A title game participants are now in AA. ...

Thank you again for providing me with a perfect example of my point. Even a place like Warroad, which has as good of a hockey culture and community support as you'll find anywhere, has just gone through a decade of relative mediocrity. They are proof that having an excellent program isn't enough fo...

Well, judging by your posts, you must have read this thread 15-20 times. :lol: You Roseau guys might like to talk tough about not caring about fairness and liking the current system, but the writing is on the wall, your Rams are gonna have to move down to Class A to ever have any type of success ag...

Ever heard of Warroad? Or are they too close to the metro area Baudette? Yeah you poor thing. Some kid out there should feel your wrath for all the pain and suffering you have taken over the years! Not sure what you are trying to get at with your last point. My thought is by and large the system wo...

I am going to put this as nicely as possible. Anybody that has read all the posts on this thread is a little dumber today than they were before they read it! Well, judging by your posts, you must have read this thread 15-20 times. :lol: You Roseau guys might like to talk tough about not caring abou...

Didn’t see the original game but went and glanced at the stream. The first Spud goal was scored on a centering pass from behind the net to a Moorhead player standing all alone 15 feet out between the circles. What was lucky about that? I would rather say none of the goals were “lucky” as I didn’t t...

Anyone have any observations on the game in Roseau last night? How about Blake vs Benilde? I would have said the game was closer than the score indicated. 2-2 after two and play was pretty even through that point. Even in the third Moorhead didn't dominate play by any means. They did have the bette...

Anyone have any observations on the game in Roseau last night? How about Blake vs Benilde? I would have said the game was closer than the score indicated. 2-2 after two and play was pretty even through that point. Even in the third Moorhead didn't dominate play by any means. They did have the bette...

To be fair, if EGF was in AA it is very likely their schedule would include more AA teams and less of the likes of Orono and Delano. The can’t control their conference schedule of course but in all likelihood they would have played a tougher non conference schedule, thereby improving their overall ...

My point was that, in general, AA teams are rated higher than A teams. If they dropped Orono and Delano and picked up STMA and St. Cloud they would have a tougher schedule and thus a higher ranking. That is assuming they got the same results against the higher rated teams you mention. Generally, if...

To be fair, if EGF was in AA it is very likely their schedule would include more AA teams and less of the likes of Orono and Delano. The can’t control their conference schedule of course but in all likelihood they would have played a tougher non conference schedule, thereby improving their overall ...

Also for those wondering their average seed would be a 4.3 over the last 10 years. I didn't know if anyone would be wondering if the first decade included skewed the number, it did but only slightly. Between 4-5 is about right.

I went through and seeded EGF the last 20 years based on Pagestat (which is perfect for situations like this). I used current teams in 8AA (which I know isn't perfect due to section realignments, but is pretty good). EGF's average seed ended up at a 4.6, which means about half the time they would ge...

Also I am glad that you were finally able to admit that your idea is not a fair and equitable system but merely one that gives your home town team an advantage (or does them “favors”). Of course meaning it is not a legitimate option. We are headed in the right direction!

Ever heard of Warroad? Or are they too close to the metro area Baudette? Yeah you poor thing. Some kid out there should feel your wrath for all the pain and suffering you have taken over the years! Not sure what you are trying to get at with your last point. My thought is by and large the system wor...

Equitable in who’s eyes? Do the above listed teams think your idea is equitable? Many of those schools are a small fraction of the big AA schools you are telling them they now have to compete with. You go tell EGF (who is apparently a “city” school) that they are basically the equivalent of EP and ...

My gosh I am going to have to quit posting here for fear of having too strong of an urge to beat my head on a wall. You are right nobody does and you are right they do not have the same resources. You should be very well equipped to answer this question then. Why is there so much whining in class A...

Not all AA teams have the same resources, yet they were all put in AA. How many discrimination lawsuits have you seen over it? Has Robbinsdale Armstrong or Coon Rapids filed suit because they don't have the resources of Wayzata or EP? When they first made the AA/A split, how thrilled were the teams...

I'm moving this over from the A ranking post also While the MSHSL does have experience with teams opting down the only one that I can think of that had any success was MAML and that one did generate a little bit of discussion with just an appearance at state. Call it opting up or opting down essent...

Go back and read my post about my idea. I said that any city teams would get put into AA, then they could petition to A, but once they won an A title, they would have to go to AA again. Greenway, and any other non-big city team, would NOT have to go to A after winning a title. Reading comprehension...

I'm moving this over from the A ranking post also Three observations: 1)). Nate Werner played his youth hockey in St Cloud so he did play AA in youth...just since that came up. I believe most of the SCC kids did but don’t have the data. Just remember the history. 2). Some kind of relegation system ...

Almost too many holes in your plan to speak to but a few right off the bat. 1. No chance to defend your title? Seriously? 2. Who gets to decide who can opt down and who can't? And based on what criteria? If they are good? So say Duluth Denfeld, they are in a metro area but they are going to be pret...

Or how about this scenario. Greenway finishes off their magical run last year and wins state. How long are they pushed to AA? Do players like Troumbly and Miller even stick around? How to the underclassmen parents feel about that? Go back and read my post about my idea. I said that any city teams w...